Honestly they need a pass rusher. Cole is probably gone after this season since his/cap hit will be like 10 mill
I'm a/little surprised the bus didn't draft a young qb as Glennons potential seems limited
- Bieksa#3

I'm a little disappointed in that as well with the number of QBs still available after the first 3 rounds. They'll probably have to wait until next year's draft for a QB with guys like Mariota, Winston, and Hundley among others eligible. Either way I hope they are at least more competitive than they were this year.

In a draft short on rushers I believe Smith was the last available edge rusher before the value really fell off. Still I thought they'd take Bucannnon at that spot
- joshFreeman

Yeah, Buchannon is a way better player.

I'm a little disappointed in that as well with the number of QBs still available after the first 3 rounds. They'll probably have to wait until next year's draft for a QB with guys like Mariota, Winston, and Hundley among others eligible. Either way I hope they are at least more competitive than they were this year.
- joshFreeman

Its funny, I think they were better then their record indicated. Should have started 2-0 but were unbelievably 0-2
You guys would have a dangerous offense with a elite young QB

Rams had a great draft, so (frank)ing jealous. 2 of my top 5 guys in the first.

Rams had a great draft, so (frank)ing jealous. 2 of my top 5 guys in the first.
- Nucker101

Browns/had the best draft.

Watkins is great but 2 get 2 top 10 picks for him is amazing

Browns/had the best draft.

Watkins is great but 2 get 2 top 10 picks for him is amazing
- Bieksa#3

Agreed, the only issue I have with them is if they knew about the Josh Gordon situation beforehand why didn't they grab a wide receiver i.e. Marquis Lee. Otherwise I also really liked what the Rams and Raiders did.

Read an article where MacShay comparrs him to Watkins. Has better size, faster and a better combine. Says Watkins has slightly better hands. Saying Watkins is slightly better but how one is considered a once in a lifetime WR and the other wasn't considered a 1st rounder is a joke.
I think the Eagles did well after the 1st round but I question the Smith pick in the 1st round.
Fine and dandy if they love him but I think they could have had him in the late 2nd round
- Bieksa#3

McShay should find a new line of work. Every part of that comparison is ridiculous.

"What can we infer from this table? For starters, the top-five drafting teams over the last 30 years are Detroit, Montreal, Quebec/Colorado, New Jersey, and Pittsburgh. Funnily enough, those five teams have combined for 20 Stanley Cup Finals appearances and 14 Stanley Cups. You can clearly see why these guys are winning Stanley Cups. As for the worst teams over the last 30 years, we can clearly see that Chicago, St. Louis, and Minnesota/Dallas have had tough luck drafting. Even if you include Chicago’s recent two Stanley Cups, these three teams have combined for six Stanley Cup Finals appearances, and three championships. That may not seem unimpressive, but remember that Chicago is near the bottom in this analysis because Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane have yet to accumulate enough points to make a significant impact on the numbers. If we were to redo this analysis in ten years, I’d fully expect Chicago’s numbers to be more middle of the pack." - See more at: http://thehockeywriters.c...est/#sthash.13oOr935.dpuf

Trading up?

Do the Canucks trade up?

Oilers draft 3 then 91 st. Could the Canucks trade the second rounder and first rounder to get their man?

I don't think I would .You still might be able to grab a decent Dman at 36 th.

"What can we infer from this table? For starters, the top-five drafting teams over the last 30 years are Detroit, Montreal, Quebec/Colorado, New Jersey, and Pittsburgh. Funnily enough, those five teams have combined for 20 Stanley Cup Finals appearances and 14 Stanley Cups. You can clearly see why these guys are winning Stanley Cups. As for the worst teams over the last 30 years, we can clearly see that Chicago, St. Louis, and Minnesota/Dallas have had tough luck drafting. Even if you include Chicago’s recent two Stanley Cups, these three teams have combined for six Stanley Cup Finals appearances, and three championships. That may not seem unimpressive, but remember that Chicago is near the bottom in this analysis because Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane have yet to accumulate enough points to make a significant impact on the numbers. If we were to redo this analysis in ten years, I’d fully expect Chicago’s numbers to be more middle of the pack." - See more at: http://thehockeywriters.c...est/#sthash.13oOr935.dpuf
- LeftCoaster

I wonder what the Canucks numbers would look like if you adjusted these stats to only include games played as a Canuck? Guys like Neely, Nedved and Bure did a good amount of their scoring once they left.

I wonder what the Canucks numbers would look like if you adjusted these stats to only include games played as a Canuck? Guys like Neely, Nedved and Bure did a good amount of their scoring once they left.
- 1970vintage

They did it on the radio the other day. In Gillis's 8 years it is 88 games approx for Draft picks to play with Canucks. The next lowest team was around 500 games in the same timeline.

Trading up?

Do the Canucks trade up?

Oilers draft 3 then 91 st. Could the Canucks trade the second rounder and first rounder to get their man?

I don't think I would .You still might be able to grab a decent Dman at 36 th.
- VANTEL

I'm not sure I'm do that. Oilers toss in another piece.

They did it on the radio the other day. In Gillis's 8 years it is 88 games approx for Draft picks to play with Canucks. The next lowest team was around 500 games in the same timeline.
- VANTEL

Gilles was here 6 yrs, not 8. You'd think they'd figure that out on a sports talk radio show before trying to pass facts

I wonder what the Canucks numbers would look like if you adjusted these stats to only include games played as a Canuck? Guys like Neely, Nedved and Bure did a good amount of their scoring once they left.
- 1970vintage

Neely & Nedved yes, Bure scored the majority or at least over 50% of his points with the Canucks.

Bure 779 career pts - 478 with the Canucks 301 with other teams.

I wonder what the Canucks numbers would look like if you adjusted these stats to only include games played as a Canuck? Guys like Neely, Nedved and Bure did a good amount of their scoring once they left.
- 1970vintage

Its not just that. Detroit is the exception, but how many awful yrs have these teams had? Pitts has what, 6 top 2 picks in 30 yrs. Colorado has about 6 or 7. When you drafting that high you should be getting stars.

They did it on the radio the other day. In Gillis's 8 years it is 88 games approx for Draft picks to play with Canucks. The next lowest team was around 500 games in the same timeline.
- VANTEL

Gillis was only the GM for six years. For someone who constantly relies on numbers you seem to have a few issues with them?

I'm not sure I'm do that. Oilers toss in another piece.
- Bieksa#3

I know we have debated before on this , but I still think an Offer Sheet to the flyers for Schenn. 5.5 for five years costs a first and a third. When we trade Kesler we could get the first back.

Flyers have OS other teams in the past including the Canucks. They are up against the wall with 6 mil plus and 17 players signed.

They also stole our GM

Gillis was only the GM for six years. For someone who constantly relies on numbers you seem to have a few issues with them?
- LeftCoaster

I don't rely on numbers at all .

I know we have debated before on this , but I still think an Offer Sheet to the flyers for Schenn. 5.5 for five years costs a first and a third. When we trade Kesler we could get the first back.

Flyers have OS other teams in the past including the Canucks. They are up against the wall with 6 mil plus and 17 players signed.

They also stole our GM
- VANTEL

Not a chance I offer sheet anybody in which the comp includes a 1st rounder at this point. Look at what the leafs gave up for Kessel. He's a great player but the players they gave up have a combined much higher value

Gillis was only the GM for six years. For someone who constantly relies on numbers you seem to have a few issues with them?
- LeftCoaster

At what age does the average player become an NHL regular. 24? So while I have been critical of Gilles drafting, its fair to say we don't know yet

Not a chance I offer sheet anybody in which the comp includes a 1st rounder at this point. Look at what the leafs gave up for Kessel. He's a great player but the players they gave up have a combined much higher value
- Bieksa#3

It is one first rounder

And everyone here says Canucks will have a bounce back year so it would be around the 15 th overall if everyone is correct.

Its not just that. Detroit is the exception, but how many awful yrs have these teams had? Pitts has what, 6 top 2 picks in 30 yrs. Colorado has about 6 or 7. When you drafting that high you should be getting stars.
- Bieksa#3

Since 1983, the time-frame of this graph, the Canucks have had six top five picks, which isn't to bad. Not as good as six top two picks though.

Three top two picks, for the record (Linden, Nedved, D.Sedin)

It is one first rounder

And everyone here says Canucks will have a bounce back year so it would be around the 15 th overall if everyone is correct.
- VANTEL

Could be Conner McDavid or Eichtel. Teams that are contenders are the only teams that should risk their 1sts in a offer sheet

Since 1983, when the time-frame of this graph, the Canucks have had six top five picks, which isn't to bad. Not as good as six top two picks though.

Three top two picks, for the record (Linden, Nedved, D.Sedin)
- LeftCoaster

And all of those guys were very, very good players

And pretty lucky to be drafting 1st twice and 2 one in a lifetime prospects are available. Crosby and Mario were can't miss easy picks

I don't rely on numbers at all .
- VANTEL

I beg to differ - all I ever hear from you is Daniel only scored 16 goals, Joel Ward had 24 or Edler was -39 and will never score 40 points again...etc etc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but those are numbers.