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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
LOL speaking of Randy Jones:

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
Long lost Flyers video posts.

Part 1: Umberger suicide pass specialist Niko Dimitrakos with a nice deke but no goal.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
I think it should be his spot to lose. Akeson was a close second to Giroux in pts per 60 mins in the Ranger series 5v5, while playing on a line often deployed against the opponent's top players and he produced on the PP as well. I didn't see any major concerns in regards to his defensive game. I mean, it's not the best or anything, but I didn't see any glaring deficiencies that would make him a serious liability. When the Rags took the body to him, yeah he got knocked around (so did G), but he took it well...got back up and into the battle...I saw him make more than one good play from the defensive zone.

Here's a kid who won multiple major awards as a scoring champ in the OHL, then goes pro, leading a horrible Phantoms team in scoring for three years despite coaching changes and a stint in the ECHL. He did everything the Flyers org has asked. When he's gotten the call to the big club, he has answered it well. He clearly has NHL level talent and has been playing (and producing) against men for a few years now. What more does this kid have to do for people to believe he's for real? It's like people pigeonhole him because he wasn't drafted and that's ingrained in their minds so they can't easily accept that he's legit.

I know it's a relatively small sample size, but I saw more in his play against the Rags than any training camp/pre-season could possibly show. He looked like he belonged and more than that, he was among the team's best performers on more than one night of the series. The points he put up weren't some fluke. He made numerous skilled plays that showed off his vision and hands (and feet if you count that one goal for which he wasn't credited with a point). He also created some good scoring chances that didn't end up as goals, but he made them nonetheless...and I believe he didn't look that bad in his own end, no worse than say a Schenn or Simmer or Harts...if the team plays good team D in Chief's system, he won't often be left on an island, so I think it's a favorable gambit to go with a guy like Akeson.

I believe that if they give him a top six (for the Flyers, really, a top nine) role, Akseon will produce at a significant rate, without being some big liability on D. If somehow he ends up flaming out and sucking, I'm pretty sure he'll sign for cheap so that can be dealt with a number of ways. I don't see the problem.

- exlund



solid.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
I think subban is an 8 mil a year dman this summer. I would pay every penny if im the Habs
- Just5


With his age, already winning a Norris Trophy, got to be at least 8 years and closer to $67, IMO.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:29 PM ET
Wasn't much else to find. I think he could be a 2nd rounder & would help adding another goalie prospect to the system outside of Stolarz.
- ob18


the flyers soured on finnish goalies with hovinen and will never draft another.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
Pelle Eklund through the middle. Best part is when Roy freaks out with anger/disgust after the goal is scored.

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
the flyers soured on finnish goalies with hovinen and will never draft another.
- hammarby31


he wasn't drafted by the Flyers.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:31 PM ET
And unless a player like Akeson is putting up points at a consistent level, a Coach like Berube isn't likely to stick with him for long, if he can't contribute in other ways.
- MJL


we don't know if he'll be able to contribute in other ways at the nhl level yet. we have to wait and see.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
he wasn't drafted by the Flyers.
- wilsonecho91


fine, so he was drafted by the wild. my point still stands (not really, because i was being completely sarcastic).
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:34 PM ET
LOL speaking of Randy Jones:


- Pixote Andolini


oh look, the flyers were losing by multiple goals to the bruins on home ice. shocking.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 8:34 PM ET
fine, so he was drafted by the wild. my point still stands (not really, because i was being completely sarcastic).
- hammarby31

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 8 @ 8:36 PM ET
This one's for you Hammarby31. Rangers injuring Flyers.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:37 PM ET
Pelle Eklund through the middle. Best part is when Roy freaks out with anger/disgust after the goal is scored.


- Pixote Andolini


the backwards jig is a bit much. i'm shocked that a reserved swede would celebrate like that. nice defense.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
This one's for you Hammarby31. Rangers injuring Flyers.


- Pixote Andolini


why would you post this? i'm not even going to watch it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 8:44 PM ET
How can nfl teams continue to be so unbelievably dumb? Bills trade their first this year and next year and a 4th to move up 5 spots to get a WR in the deepest WR draft ever?

Colossally stupid.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 8 @ 8:55 PM ET
How can nfl teams continue to be so unbelievably dumb? Bills trade their first this year and next year and a 4th to move up 5 spots to get a WR in the deepest WR draft ever?

Colossally stupid.

- Just5

remember when you said the Wings would beat the bruins and i said they will turn back into a pumpkin and get smoked in the playoffs?? LOL



i want HA-HA at 22
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
we don't know if he'll be able to contribute in other ways at the nhl level yet. we have to wait and see.
- hammarby31


I agree. And he should be given the opportunity to show that he can. But I don't feel that he should be penciled in, and have it his spot to lose. I agree with Hextall, when he says that young players have to earn it. I think how he played in the playoffs has earned him a chance, not a roster spot for next Season.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

May 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
oh look, the flyers were losing by multiple goals to the bruins on home ice. shocking.
- hammarby31


Probably a Saturday afternoon game too
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
remember when you said the Wings would beat the bruins and i said they will turn back into a pumpkin and get smoked in the playoffs?? LOL



i want HA-HA at 22

- Crimsoninja

Be a man and say you want Dix
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 9:01 PM ET
In my view, a good GM puts together a team of good players. But the best GM's not only put together a team of good players, but also a team that blends together and is the right mix. I think that is the challenge facing Hextall. The Flyers have a bunch of good players, but do they have the right mix? They have a star in Giroux, and some promising young players at Center. Might need to inject some more speed and skill on the Wing to go along with it. And definitely need to tweak the mix at defense. The Flyers have a strong core with Giroux and Couturier up the middle. And I feel they have their goaltender in Mason. That's a great start. Shoring up the defense is going to be the biggest challenge. The hardest and most difficult moves are facing Hextall and the Flyers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 9:03 PM ET
remember when you said the Wings would beat the bruins and i said they will turn back into a pumpkin and get smoked in the playoffs?? LOL



i want HA-HA at 22

- Crimsoninja


You also said the pens would beat the bjs when I said no. That's good work.

I want them to trade down

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
Be a man and say you want Dix
- KINGKENZO

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
I agree. And he should be given the opportunity to show that he can. But I don't feel that he should be penciled in, and have it his spot to lose. I agree with Hextall, when he says that young players have to earn it. I think how he played in the playoffs has earned him a chance, not a roster spot for next Season.
- MJL


I agree. I'm aware of what akeson was able to do. But I have my doubts. Hes like Nathan gerbe to me, just whatever
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
You also said the pens would beat the bjs when I said no. That's good work.

I want them to trade down

- Just5

i just despise babcock and holland and it pissed me off to see everyone on their jocks at the end of the season.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 8 @ 9:06 PM ET

- Crimsoninja

Thats friggin phenomenal. Ive been doing that all year ....I want ha ha too, but I dont think hell be there
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