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FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 8 @ 3:40 PM ET
Just to pull it out:

"Paul Holmgren said this week one of the reasons Vincent Lecavalier struggled is because Peter Laviolette, who recruited him, left, and Lecavalier wasn't a fit in Craig Berube's system. Is there a trade fit now that Laviolette is in Nashville? Flyers would probably have to eat a good chunk of his salary, but Holmgren and Poile have a history of getting deals done. "

Spin away.

- jmatchett383

There is a history all right... Sadly the most recent history is fairly tainted.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:40 PM ET
what about this?


- wilsonecho91


Uh oh...a picture of a good looking lady with a blouse partially open and showing some leg. The mods will quickly delete this, saying that it's going to lead to a slippery slope of a barrage of n00dz.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:40 PM ET
That's some damn sexy insanity.
- jmatchett383


bruce campbell is nothing if not sexy-insane.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 8 @ 3:40 PM ET
what does nashville have that we would want? weber aside.
- hammarby31

Jones
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:41 PM ET
Jones
- FlyersGrace


Like I said, we could potentially go after Stalberg for a 1/2 LW. Not ideal, but not bad either.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:41 PM ET
Uh oh...a picture of a good looking lady with a blouse partially open and showing some leg. The mods will quickly delete this, saying that it's going to lead to a slippery slope of a barrage of n00dz.
- jmatchett383


nothing about this clip of tawny kitaen is deletion-worthy.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:42 PM ET
Jones
- FlyersGrace


mmmmmm yeah. somehow i don't see a scenario in which VL lands SJ. now, if we threw in rosemont, that's another story.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:43 PM ET
as evidenced early on....
- wilsonecho91


the car!

debbie!

debbie!

the car!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:44 PM ET
mmmmmm yeah. somehow i don't see a scenario in which VL lands SJ. now, if we threw in rosemont, that's another story.
- hammarby31


I think, realistically, we could potentially do a VL + B Schenn + ??? and go for Josi and Wilson.
wilsonecho91
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May 8 @ 3:45 PM ET
what does nashville have that we would want? weber aside.
- hammarby31


Hornqvist (Won't get traded)
Josi (won't get traded)
Jarnkrok (Won't get traded)
Forsberg (Won't get traded)
Salomaki (prospect)
Leipsic (prospect)
Aberg (prospect)

not including Jones or Weber or Rinne
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:46 PM ET
the car!

debbie!

debbie!

the car!

- hammarby31


YOU...ARE...MISTER DEBBIE!

I don't know your reference, but it made me think of this.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
Ray Marcham ‏@rmarcham 6m

The only year that the #Leafs won the Cup where the NHL had more than 6 teams? 1932. The NHL had 8 teams that season.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
Hornqvist (Won't get traded)
Josi (won't get traded)
Jarnkrok (Won't get traded)
Forsberg (Won't get traded)
Salomaki (prospect)
Leipsic (prospect)
Aberg (prospect)

not including Jones or Weber or Rinne

- wilsonecho91


When you say "Won't get traded," do you mean for VL straight up, or at all? "Cause I'm pretty sure guys like Hornqvist could be had for the right deal.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
Ray Marcham ‏@rmarcham 6m

The only year that the #Leafs won the Cup where the NHL had more than 6 teams? 1932. The NHL had 8 teams that season.


- wilsonecho91


Well...tears down that whole theory, kill joy.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
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May 8 @ 3:48 PM ET
YOU...ARE...MISTER DEBBIE!

I don't know your reference, but it made me think of this.

- jmatchett383

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
YOU...ARE...MISTER DEBBIE!

I don't know your reference, but it made me think of this.

- jmatchett383


the reference is to "bachelor party". and i don't know yours.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 8 @ 3:49 PM ET

- wilsonecho91


wilsonecho91
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May 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
When you say "Won't get traded," do you mean for VL straight up, or at all? "Cause I'm pretty sure guys like Hornqvist could be had for the right deal.
- jmatchett383


definitely not straight up and what i should have said is that these are core players or high end prospects that are highly unlikely to get moved.

as for hornqvist, i'd love him on the Flyers, but I would want Hartnell going the other way.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
Hornqvist (Won't get traded)
Josi (won't get traded)
Jarnkrok (Won't get traded)
Forsberg (Won't get traded)
Salomaki (prospect)
Leipsic (prospect)
Aberg (prospect)

not including Jones or Weber or Rinne

- wilsonecho91



so you'd want one or more of their prospects? i don't know anything about them. more to the point, would VL be able to net one of them?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:51 PM ET
the reference is to "bachelor party". and i don't know yours.
- hammarby31


Addams Family Values, as played by the late, great Raul Julia.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:52 PM ET
so you'd want one or more of their prospects? i don't know anything about them. more to the point, would VL be able to net one of them?
- hammarby31


No, but a VL + B Schenn possibly could. But if that's the case, I'd want Roman Josi.
Tomahawk
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May 8 @ 3:52 PM ET
so you'd want one or more of their prospects? i don't know anything about them. more to the point, would VL be able to net one of them?
- hammarby31



VL and Lauren Hart for Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:53 PM ET
VL and Lauren Hart for Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood.
- Tomahawk


Only in Nashville could a veteran 2nd/3rd line center be considered 100% untouchable.
wilsonecho91
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May 8 @ 3:53 PM ET
so you'd want one or more of their prospects? i don't know anything about them. more to the point, would VL be able to net one of them?
- hammarby31


yes, i think he would (at least for Salomaki and Leipsic), but i highly doubt the Flyers would do a straight up deal for those guys. Aberg is a high prospect and his #s look good. i'd be lying if i said i've ever seen him play. here's a link http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=718267

at the end of the day though, think Nashville has various pieces that i would consider, picks aside
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 3:54 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/05/30-thoughts-sharks-in-rough-waters.html
- Feanor



Reads like the same as all of the rumors floating around. Pure conjecture.
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