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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 2:54 PM ET
Too bad they don't miss you.
- Tomahawk


dayum.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 2:55 PM ET

- hammarby31


in a Rangers jersey
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 2:56 PM ET
in a Rangers jersey
- wilsonecho91


i had the same vision. BR, VL, MSL -
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
i had the same vision. BR, VL, MSL -
- hammarby31


i read what you said a few days ago about your dislike for certain teams and why, breaking down team v. fans. I agreed with all of it, and wanted to contribute that regardless of any other reason, I enjoy watching the Rangers lose because of CSP. I don't really know why, I tend to like him off ice, but I despise him as a goalie. I always have. His recent behavior of acting like a soccer goalie (yelling at his players, being publically demonstrative) especially irks me.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
Oh, my goodness. The Laffs didn't just retain Carlyle, they gave him a two-year extension.

Excuse me, folks. I need to go get some popcorn and monitor Leafs-centric Twitter feeds and message boards, for the Apocalypse has come
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
dayum.
- hammarby31



They asked me to pass along this postcard tho:

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
not only did the Leafs not fire Carlyle, they extended his contract two years.

having said that, i'm not sure i'd fire him either. look at that team he has to work with.

eit: laught
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 8 @ 3:01 PM ET
Any thoughts on Gagne being offered a tryout this year in camp? I know negotiations didn't go well with Homer last offseason but he still wanted to play. Maybe the year off helped. He could be a cheap veteran LW to play 3rd line minutes
- sulshawn


I'd honestly rather check in on John LeClair.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 8 @ 3:02 PM ET
Oh, my goodness. The Laffs didn't just retain Carlyle, they gave him a two-year extension.

Excuse me, folks. I need to go get some popcorn and monitor Leafs-centric Twitter feeds and message boards, for the Apocalypse has come

- AllInForFlyers









I hope they post cops on the area bridges... it's going to be raining Leafs fans.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:03 PM ET
They asked me to pass along this postcard tho:


- Tomahawk


now, this i do not miss.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
What is the source of those rumors?
- MJL


http://www.cbc.ca/sports-...arks-in-rough-waters.html
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
now, this i do not miss.
- hammarby31


what about this?

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 3:10 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/05/30-thoughts-sharks-in-rough-waters.html
- Feanor


link isn't working
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
Dear Lord, the comedy of the Carlyle extension on Twitter will sustain me for weeks

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:14 PM ET
i read what you said a few days ago about your dislike for certain teams and why, breaking down team v. fans. I agreed with all of it, and wanted to contribute that regardless of any other reason, I enjoy watching the Rangers lose because of CSP. I don't really know why, I tend to like him off ice, but I despise him as a goalie. I always have. His recent behavior of acting like a soccer goalie (yelling at his players, being publically demonstrative) especially irks me.
- wilsonecho91


i love watching him lose. there's nothing in particular that he does which bothers me...it's just the whole package. his nickname absolutely fuels my fire, and it's why i call him csp, and more recently king nothing. i don't care if it's not self-given, he's embraced it with the crown logo and made it his personal brand. and you can't sell me on a tre kronor reference to make it acceptable. that said, he's a perfectly fine human being, and as i said the other day, if he played for 25 other teams in the league i wouldn't give a flying (frank). i understand his frustration at this stage. it's a lather, rinse, repeat situation for him, and i don't fault him for yelling. goalies have to keep their emotions in check, they don't get the benefit of getting out their anger by skating all over the ice, hammering and fighting guys, while chirping at the same time. it eventually will come out. and there's something about europeans which makes this acceptable - perhaps a soccer related cultural infusion.i do it now all the time, because i'm in a beer league, and i don't give a poop. call it 30 years of eating emotion. there are times i want to skate out, take the puck from everyone, and just go bobby orr on all the way down the ice and go top shelf because i believe in my mind i could do that, as i'm furious with disgust at the incompetence of play in front of me. but i can't. so i yell. and hope to educate at the same time.

so, uh, back to the point, yeah, i love watching him lose, especially when he's actually playing well, and i don't feel bad about it. (frank) the rangers, and their fans, for all eternity.

FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 8 @ 3:16 PM ET

so, uh, back to the point, yeah, i love watching him lose, especially when he's actually playing well, and i don't feel bad about it. (frank) the rangers, and their fans, for all eternity.

- hammarby31

Tell us how you really feel...
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
not only did the Leafs not fire Carlyle, they extended his contract two years.

having said that, i'm not sure i'd fire him either. look at that team he has to work with.

eit: laught

- wilsonecho91


and just a little while ago i read a post from a laffs fan about the insanity continuing with respect to hextall becoming gm. who's laffing now?

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:18 PM ET
what about this?


- wilsonecho91


yes.

she's batpoop crazy, too.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
Tell us how you really feel...

- FlyersGrace


i can promise you that i will always do this. it's probably my most divisive quality. and i don't (frank)ing care if someone likes it or not.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
i love watching him lose. there's nothing in particular that he does which bothers me...it's just the whole package. his nickname absolutely fuels my fire, and it's why i call him csp, and more recently king nothing. i don't care if it's not self-given, he's embraced it with the crown logo and made it his personal brand. and you can't sell me on a tre kronor reference to make it acceptable. that said, he's a perfectly fine human being, and as i said the other day, if he played for 25 other teams in the league i wouldn't give a flying (frank). i understand his frustration at this stage. it's a lather, rinse, repeat situation for him, and i don't fault him for yelling. goalies have to keep their emotions in check, they don't get the benefit of getting out their anger by skating all over the ice, hammering and fighting guys, while chirping at the same time. it eventually will come out. and there's something about europeans which makes this acceptable - perhaps a soccer related cultural infusion.i do it now all the time, because i'm in a beer league, and i don't give a poop. call it 30 years of eating emotion. there are times i want to skate out, take the puck from everyone, and just go bobby orr on all the way down the ice and go top shelf because i believe in my mind i could do that, as i'm furious with disgust at the incompetence of play in front of me. but i can't. so i yell. and hope to educate at the same time.

so, uh, back to the point, yeah, i love watching him lose, especially when he's actually playing well, and i don't feel bad about it. (frank) the rangers, and their fans, for all eternity.

- hammarby31


so what would your feeling be if the dmen threw their sticks in the air or gesticulated when you let in a pooper or even just a regular goal?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 8 @ 3:24 PM ET
yes.

she's batpoop crazy, too.

- hammarby31


as evidenced early on....
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
so what would your feeling be if the dmen threw their sticks in the air or gesticulated when you let in a pooper or even just a regular goal?
- wilsonecho91


i would be annoyed by that. of course. i'm not saying it's right, just that i understand it.

and you also would have to generally assume that this type of reaction from a goalie is coming deep into the game, after many stellar saves while probably being hung out to dry. if i were HL, i'd have wanted to 2-hand mcdunnuh after his "backcheck" that let sutter score and break the game open. (frank)ing up a play executionally - ie, giving up a soft goal - is not from a lack of effort - it's a concentration thing. the lack of effort given is what makes us crazy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/05/30-thoughts-sharks-in-rough-waters.html
- Feanor


Just to pull it out:

"Paul Holmgren said this week one of the reasons Vincent Lecavalier struggled is because Peter Laviolette, who recruited him, left, and Lecavalier wasn't a fit in Craig Berube's system. Is there a trade fit now that Laviolette is in Nashville? Flyers would probably have to eat a good chunk of his salary, but Holmgren and Poile have a history of getting deals done. "

Spin away.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
and just a little while ago i read a post from a laffs fan about the insanity continuing with respect to hextall becoming gm. who's laffing now?


- hammarby31


That's some damn sexy insanity.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
Just to pull it out:

"Paul Holmgren said this week one of the reasons Vincent Lecavalier struggled is because Peter Laviolette, who recruited him, left, and Lecavalier wasn't a fit in Craig Berube's system. Is there a trade fit now that Laviolette is in Nashville? Flyers would probably have to eat a good chunk of his salary, but Holmgren and Poile have a history of getting deals done. "

Spin away.

- jmatchett383


what does nashville have that we would want? weber aside.
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