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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
Talking about how he's focused on hanging on to picks, carefully developing players, and building around homegrown talent.
- Tomahawk


That's great to hear.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
That's great to hear.
- funmaster18



"Can't always look to get better from the outside... have to look from within"
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 7 @ 11:45 AM ET
Hextall: building around young players and draft picks... doesn't want to trade young players for older vets.


- Tomahawk


I really can't complain about what I've heard so far.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
The subtle jabs at the "Pittsburgh model" are tremendous.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
I really can't complain about what I've heard so far.
- johndewar


Same, but actions speak louder than words.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
Damn, Hexy taking a direct shot right at Edmonton
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
The subtle jabs at the "Pittsburgh model" are tremendous.
- johndewar


Yup. They're as subtle as one of his slashes, though.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 7 @ 11:48 AM ET
The subtle jabs at the "Pittsburgh model" are tremendous.
- johndewar

I think he is talking about Edm...

"There's a team out there, and Im not naming names, but they are just (?) collecting top picks... for the past 4 or 5 years now. And they are gonna be good in a few years, but ask their fans how they feel"
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Same, but actions speak louder than words.
- funmaster18


I'm nodding my head at everything that's coming out of his mouth.

But can he/will he stand up to Snider?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
I think we need to realize that these guys lie to us all the time and that's just part of the job. It's ok
- eayost


Lie is harsh.

Managing the message is the preferred phrase.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Damn, Hexy taking a direct shot right at Edmonton
- jak521


What was the comment?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think he is talking about Edm...
- jak521


Pittsburgh did the same thing, they just had better luck.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
What was the comment?
- funmaster18



Not going to name any names, but we've got a team in this league that's been collecting 1st-overalls year after year. They might be good in 3-years, but ask their fans how they've felt over the past 7-8 years.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'm nodding my head at everything that's coming out of his mouth.

But can he/will he stand up to Snider?

- Tomahawk


If I was snider or any owner, I would let the guy I brought in do his job and address it after it blows up or succeeds. I mean, am I crazy?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
What was the comment?
- funmaster18

"There's a team out there, and Im not naming names, but they are just (?) collecting top picks... for the past 4 or 5 years now. And they are gonna be good in a few years, but ask their fans how they feel"


Not completely exact, but close enough.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'm nodding my head at everything that's coming out of his mouth.

But can he/will he stand up to Snider?

- Tomahawk



I think he can. I don't think he comes back without getting to do what he wants. His shots at EDM and Pitt are great. Also the way he talks you get this feeling that he would rather have a cup in Philly then the one he got in LA
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
Howard Eskin.. still a (frank)ing J/O
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Lie is harsh.

Managing the message is the preferred phrase.

- Scoob


We will also accept "Managing the truth".
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Howard Eskin.. still a (frank)ing J/O
- jak521


Agreed and I don't have to hear his comment.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
If I was snider or any owner, I would let the guy I brought in do his job and address it after it blows up or succeeds. I mean, am I crazy?
- funmaster18



I think Snider's hands off until he gets a bur under his saddle... like w/ the never again thing w/ goaltending.

Would Hexy have had the guts to tell Snider to cool his jets and stick w/ Bob? That's what I wanna know.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Not sure how eager teams will be to trade for grossman coming off another lower-body-surgery-requiring injury and hartnell has a NMC so it's up to him.
- funmaster18


Worst case scenario is you eat a little bit of salary and Grossman is easily shipped off for a draft pick and cap space.

As much as everyone loves to mention NMC's (and they are relevant), you approach a guy like Scott Hartnell the right way, and anyone can be moved. Once a player knows he's no longer wanted, they typically don't want to stay. If nothing else, his NMC means we are limited in what we receive in return; we are likely stuck with a short list of teams Hartnell would accept a trade to. He is another player that because of his deal, we may have to eat some salary.

Of the 3, Coburn IMO is the least likely to go. You have to move Grossman or Harntell first to regain some valuable cap space. IMO, all 3 players under-performed to a degree this year and are simply not worth their salaries on THIS team.

Hartnell is more of a numbers game up front, as he was still relatively productive offensively. If his cap hit was 1m under what it is and about 2 years shorter, I don't think he goes anywhere.

And as much as some may disagree, I believe we are stuck with Lecavlier for the time being.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
I think Snider's hands off until he gets a bur under his saddle... like w/ the never again thing w/ goaltending.

Would Hexy have had the guts to tell Snider to cool his jets and stick w/ Bob? That's what I wanna know.

- Tomahawk


It will be very interesting.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 7 @ 11:55 AM ET
Hanrahan got a mention
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
So all the 'get homer outta here' people are super stoked now?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
Worst case scenario is you eat a little bit of salary and Grossman is easily shipped off for a draft pick and cap space.

As much as everyone loves to mention NMC's (and they are relevant), you approach a guy like Scott Hartnell the right way, and anyone can be moved. Once a player knows he's no longer wanted, they typically don't want to stay. If nothing else, his NMC means we are limited in what we receive in return; we are likely stuck with a short list of teams Hartnell would accept a trade to. He is another player that because of his deal, we may have to eat some salary.

Of the 3, Coburn IMO is the least likely to go. You have to move Grossman or Harntell first to regain some valuable cap space. IMO, all 3 players under-performed to a degree this year and are simply not worth their salaries on THIS team.

Hartnell is more of a numbers game up front, as he was still relatively productive offensively. If his cap hit was 1m under what it is and about 2 years shorter, I don't think he goes anywhere.

And as much as some may disagree, I believe we are stuck with Lecavlier for the time being.

- mochoson


Is cap space going to be an issue if Hextall is trying to build from with and with the cap going up? I'm all for improving the team but I don't like trades to just get rid of a guy and take salary back.
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