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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 7 @ 9:43 AM ET
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 7 @ 9:45 AM ET

- PhillaBully


What I really hope this means is that there are no more players like Tyrell Goulborne taken in the 3rd round.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 7 @ 9:56 AM ET
What I really hope this means is that there are no more players like Tyrell Goulborne taken in the 3rd round.
- MBFlyerfan

and the near automatic inclusion of the NTC/NMC


btw, did someone mention that AMac did not get a NTC?
how shocking if true!
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
and the near automatic inclusion of the NTC/NMC


btw, did someone mention that AMac did not get a NTC?
how shocking if true!

- Marc D


6 year, $30 million contract for him has an inherent NTC.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 7 @ 9:59 AM ET
and the near automatic inclusion of the NTC/NMC


btw, did someone mention that AMac did not get a NTC?
how shocking if true!

- Marc D



To be fair I have been going over the last four or five years of Flyers drafts, and they have actually had a pretty good run overall.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
6 year, $30 million contract for him has an inherent NTC.
- bradleyc4

ha

Well did Hexy write it up or is this Paul's final masterpiece?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 7 @ 10:06 AM ET
ha

Well did Hexy write it up or is this Paul's final masterpiece?

- Marc D


Don't know the answer, but I always thought that AGM's did most contract extension negotiations.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 10:51 AM ET
and the near automatic inclusion of the NTC/NMC


btw, did someone mention that AMac did not get a NTC?
how shocking if true!

- Marc D



Is there any data out there that suggests that the Flyers give out movement clauses at a higher rate then other teams around the League?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
6 year, $30 million contract for him has an inherent NTC.
- bradleyc4



No it doesn't. Part of the problem is that the fans view of what's an expensive contract, hasn't escalated to the level that players contracts and market value for players has.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
Jason Akeson should be a Flyer. He is a gifted player who has proven he can produce at every level and did not look out of place in his early NHL exposure, on a big stage. In every NHL game he's played, Akeson was one of the Flyers best players (the incidental high-stick notwithstanding). He has very good hands, vision and puck control and thinks the game at a high level, allowing him to create good offensive opportunities on a regular basis, despite his average (by NHL standards) skating. From what I can see, his defensive game isn't great, but it's not any worse than many guys already on the Flyers...to his credit, his effort seems strong at both ends. He skates and isn't afraid of the physicality. He may get knocked down at times (like some other players in the league), but he gets right back up and battles effectively...he doesn't look like he's being stifled physically out there...they body up on him but he still produces...he's good at finding/creating space for himself from which to make plays (passes/shots).

If he can continue to show he can contribute offense like that while playing at least like he did against the Rags on the defensive side, he's certainly someone I'd want in my lineup...I pencil him in for next season...I think it should be his spot to lose. I don't know why people continue to discount his chances and not take him seriously. I've been a big believer in the kid since we signed him.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 9:58 PM ET
Jason Akeson should be a Flyer. He is a gifted player who has proven he can produce at every level and did not look out of place in his early NHL exposure, on a big stage. In every NHL game he's played, Akeson was one of the Flyers best players (the incidental high-stick notwithstanding). He has very good hands, vision and puck control and thinks the game at a high level, allowing him to create good offensive opportunities on a regular basis, despite his average (by NHL standards) skating. From what I can see, his defensive game isn't great, but it's not any worse than many guys already on the Flyers...to his credit, his effort seems strong at both ends. He skates and isn't afraid of the physicality. He may get knocked down at times (like some other players in the league), but he gets right back up and battles effectively...he doesn't look like he's being stifled physically out there...they body up on him but he still produces...he's good at finding/creating space for himself from which to make plays (passes/shots).

If he can continue to show he can contribute offense like that while playing at least like he did against the Rags on the defensive side, he's certainly someone I'd want in my lineup...I pencil him in for next season...I think it should be his spot to lose. I don't know why people continue to discount his chances and not take him seriously. I've been a big believer in the kid since we signed him.


- exlund


I think Akeson has earned a real look and an opportunity to make the team next year. He's shown he can make plays with the puck, and play with poise with the puck. But one thing Hextall said in interviews today, which I agree with, is that young players aren't handed a spot on the team. They have to earn it. He did a good job in the playoffs, and I think all he earned was an opportunity. Coaches have a short leash with players like Akeson. He's either going to have to score and produce points at a significant level, or develop a better all around game to stay in the League. He has the hands, but he has to do it.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 7 @ 10:52 PM ET
I think Akeson has earned a real look and an opportunity to make the team next year. He's shown he can make plays with the puck, and play with poise with the puck. But one thing Hextall said in interviews today, which I agree with, is that young players aren't handed a spot on the team. They have to earn it. He did a good job in the playoffs, and I think all he earned was an opportunity. Coaches have a short leash with players like Akeson. He's either going to have to score and produce points at a significant level, or develop a better all around game to stay in the League. He has the hands, but he has to do it.
- MJL



I agree with the general sentiment about nobody's guaranteed a spot...but in regards to Akeson, for me, I think I saw more in his play against the Rags than any training camp/pre-season could possibly show. He looked like he belonged and more than that, he was among the best performers on the team on more than one night of the series. The points he put up weren't some fluke. He made numerous skilled plays that showed off his vision and hands. He made a number of these plays that unfortunately didn't end up as goals, but he made them nonetheless...and I believe he didn't look that bad in his own end.

I believe that if they give him a top six (for the Flyers, really, a top nine) role, he will produce at a significant rate, without being some big liability on D. If somehow he ends up flaming out and sucking, I'm pretty sure he'll sign for cheap so that can be dealt with a number of ways. I don't see the problem.
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