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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
Thoughts on a Lecavalier for Stalberg trade?
- Feanor


I dont love him, but if Nashville absorbed the whole cap hit and didn't ask for anything else, I would
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
yes, but.

anze kopitar.

my argument is beautiful in its brevity, and voluptuous in its validity.

- stayinthefnnet


My argument:

You're wrong.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
for your spare time

http://scholarship.law.du...?article=1021&context=alr

- wilsonecho91




cant say i have the mental capacity to appreciate it right now, but i will definitely get back to you. im curious as to your thoughts.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
I dont love him, but if Nashville absorbed the whole cap hit and didn't ask for anything else, I would
- PhillySportsGuy


Lecavalier to KHL for Zherdev

Bank on it.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:32 PM ET
I dont love him, but if Nashville absorbed the whole cap hit and didn't ask for anything else, I would
- PhillySportsGuy


and you should praise your cretaceous christ the entire time while doing so that such a deal came your way
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 6 @ 4:32 PM ET
Checked the waiver criteria again and am almost 100 percent positive that Akeson would be subject to waivers next season if the Flyers want to return him to the AHL.

1) For waiver calculation purposes, he was 21 years old when he signed his entry level contract with the Flyers.

2) Under the waiver rules for 21-year-old skaters, it is a three-year window for exemption (Akeson has now played three seasons of pro hockey).

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 4:33 PM ET
nyet
- wilsonecho91


http://www.fanpop.com/clu...e/gary-explains-all-photo
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 4:33 PM ET
Here is the miniscule difference between LA, the top Corsi team in the League, and the Flyers.

In the 13/14 NHL Season, according to extraskater.com, the LA Kings were the best possession team in the NHL. The Flyers were ranked in the top of the bottom 1/3 in the League, ranked 20th overall.

So let's look at some numbers.

LA had 3,890 Corsi events for, and 2,956 Corsi events against.

The Flyers had 3,512 Corsi events for, and 3,516 Corsi events against.

Let's break that down to a per game, and per period basis.

LA registered 5 more Corsi events for, and gave up 6 less Corsi events against, per game then the Flyers have.

Broken down per period, LA registered 1.6 more Corsi events for then the Flyers, and gave up 2 less Corsi events against, then the Flyers did. Per period

That's not shots on goal. It's shots attempted. Whether the shot missed the net, was blocked, hit the net, etc.

That's the miniscule difference between the top Corsi team in the League, LA, and the Flyers, ranked 20th.

- MJL



What are you talking about... difference between LA and PHI is +18 per 60min in close situations. That's huge.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 6 @ 4:35 PM ET
Look, I designed my entire project in Word! What do you mean you don't have the same fonts as me? 4-colors? 72dpi? Can't you just convert my file for me?
- Tomahawk


I pulled this image from the internet. Is the quality good enough for a full page in a 4C, glossy magazine?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 6 @ 4:36 PM ET
Here is the miniscule difference between LA, the top Corsi team in the League, and the Flyers.

In the 13/14 NHL Season, according to extraskater.com, the LA Kings were the best possession team in the NHL. The Flyers were ranked in the top of the bottom 1/3 in the League, ranked 20th overall.

So let's look at some numbers.

LA had 3,890 Corsi events for, and 2,956 Corsi events against.

The Flyers had 3,512 Corsi events for, and 3,516 Corsi events against.

Let's break that down to a per game, and per period basis.

LA registered 5 more Corsi events for, and gave up 6 less Corsi events against, per game then the Flyers have.

Broken down per period, LA registered 1.6 more Corsi events for then the Flyers, and gave up 2 less Corsi events against, then the Flyers did. Per period

That's not shots on goal. It's shots attempted. Whether the shot missed the net, was blocked, hit the net, etc.

That's the miniscule difference between the top Corsi team in the League, LA, and the Flyers, ranked 20th.

- MJL


You've missed a ton of context.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 6 @ 4:37 PM ET
Here is the miniscule difference between LA, the top Corsi team in the League, and the Flyers.

In the 13/14 NHL Season, according to extraskater.com, the LA Kings were the best possession team in the NHL. The Flyers were ranked in the top of the bottom 1/3 in the League, ranked 20th overall.

So let's look at some numbers.

LA had 3,890 Corsi events for, and 2,956 Corsi events against.

The Flyers had 3,512 Corsi events for, and 3,516 Corsi events against.

Let's break that down to a per game, and per period basis.

LA registered 5 more Corsi events for, and gave up 6 less Corsi events against, per game then the Flyers have.

Broken down per period, LA registered 1.6 more Corsi events for then the Flyers, and gave up 2 less Corsi events against, then the Flyers did. Per period

That's not shots on goal. It's shots attempted. Whether the shot missed the net, was blocked, hit the net, etc.

That's the miniscule difference between the top Corsi team in the League, LA, and the Flyers, ranked 20th.

- MJL


Firing 5 more shot attempts and allowing 6 less shot attempts per game is a big deal.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
Here is the miniscule difference between LA, the top Corsi team in the League, and the Flyers.

In the 13/14 NHL Season, according to extraskater.com, the LA Kings were the best possession team in the NHL. The Flyers were ranked in the top of the bottom 1/3 in the League, ranked 20th overall.

So let's look at some numbers.

LA had 3,890 Corsi events for, and 2,956 Corsi events against.

The Flyers had 3,512 Corsi events for, and 3,516 Corsi events against.

Let's break that down to a per game, and per period basis.

LA registered 5 more Corsi events for, and gave up 6 less Corsi events against, per game then the Flyers have.

Broken down per period, LA registered 1.6 more Corsi events for then the Flyers, and gave up 2 less Corsi events against, then the Flyers did. Per period

That's not shots on goal. It's shots attempted. Whether the shot missed the net, was blocked, hit the net, etc.

That's the miniscule difference between the top Corsi team in the League, LA, and the Flyers, ranked 20th.

- MJL


LA 47 for 36 against.

Means that vs ANY team in the league they generated 11 more shots per game. More than 3 a period.

Where do you get 1.6?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
I pulled this image from the internet. Is the quality good enough for a full page in a 4C, glossy magazine?
- bradleyc4



What do you mean you can't you just photoshop the jagged edges away? Sorry, but I only have my company logo available in this 200x50 jpeg.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
What are you talking about... difference between LA and PHI is +18 per 60min in close situations. That's huge.
- Tomahawk



5 on 5 play. Same for the Rangers.

The Rangers average 47 Corsi events for per game at 5 on 5 play. They average 42.6 Corsi events against in 5 on 5 play.

That breaks down to 15.6 Corsi events for per period, and 14.2 Corsi events against per period.

The Flyers averaged 42.8 Corsi events for per game, and 42.8 Corsi events against per period.

That breaks down to 14.2 Corsi events for per period, and 14.2 Coris events against per period.

The difference between the Flyers and the Rangers in the regular season at 5 on 5 play, is 1.4 Corsi events for. Or 4.2 Corsi events for per game. It's miniscule.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
What do you mean you can't you just photoshop the jagged edges away? Sorry, but I only have my company logo available in this 200x50 jpeg.
- Tomahawk


are you guys all in the printing business?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
Look, I designed my entire project in Word! What do you mean you don't have the same fonts as me? 4-colors? 72dpi? Can't you just convert my file for me?
- Tomahawk

We only have Macs, could you send it in Publisher?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
Checked the waiver criteria again and am almost 100 percent positive that Akeson would be subject to waivers next season if the Flyers want to return him to the AHL.

1) For waiver calculation purposes, he was 21 years old when he signed his entry level contract with the Flyers.

2) Under the waiver rules for 21-year-old skaters, it is a three-year window for exemption (Akeson has now played three seasons of pro hockey).

- bmeltzer


If Akeson performs the way he did in the playoffs, I don't see it being much of an issue.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
LA 47 for 36 against.

Means that vs ANY team in the league they generated 11 more shots per game. More than 3 a period.

Where do you get 1.6?

- FlyersSteve118



Broken down per period. Which is exactly what it says.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
are you guys all in the printing business?
- stayinthefnnet


They're all forgers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
You've missed a ton of context.
- bradleyc4



Sure I did!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
Broken down per period. Which is exactly what it says.
- MJL


Why dont you break it down by minute. That way the numbers will get even smaller
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
are you guys all in the printing business?
- stayinthefnnet


It looks like several of us are.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
Firing 5 more shot attempts and allowing 6 less shot attempts per game is a big deal.
- PhillySportsGuy



It's a significant difference. But it's not huge.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
5 on 5 play. Same for the Rangers.

The Rangers average 47 Corsi events for per game at 5 on 5 play. They average 42.6 Corsi events against in 5 on 5 play.

That breaks down to 15.6 Corsi events for per period, and 14.2 Corsi events against per period.

The Flyers averaged 42.8 Corsi events for per game, and 42.8 Corsi events against per period.

That breaks down to 14.2 Corsi events for per period, and 14.2 Coris events against per period.

The difference between the Flyers and the Rangers in the regular season at 5 on 5 play, is 1.4 Corsi events for. Or 4.2 Corsi events for per game. It's miniscule.

- MJL



1) You're probably not confining the data to close situations, to account for score effects,

2) You can't just divide the total events by 82 to get the per game... some teams spend more minutes per game at ES, others, like the Flyers, spend more time up and down a man,

3) Why are you doing the math yourself? The drop-down in Extraskater can easily convert the totals to /60 rates.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 6 @ 4:42 PM ET


To Corsi

or not to Corsi

That is how you end all civil hockey talk
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