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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
angstroms. we're using angstroms.
- hammarby31

QUIT MAKING ME LOOK THINGS UP!!!!



(kidding, I knew that one)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
angstroms. we're using angstroms.
- hammarby31


Get the metric out of here. We're using ppb and that's it. Maybe ppt.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
Anyone hear if Lavi's coaching anywhere?
- jmatchett383

Someone saw his son's street hockey team doing wind sprints so let's get that rumour going...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

May 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
Anyone hear if Lavi's coaching anywhere?
- jmatchett383


http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...laviolette-as-head-coach/
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
Anyone hear if Lavi's coaching anywhere?
- jmatchett383

JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
They went ahead and got him for 5 years, too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
Does anyone want to bring up Rob Brown and toss around the term 'obviously" and compare goal scoring and poor zone entry/Andy MacDonald or would this be too logical of an approach?
- mayorofangrytown


Jonathan Cheechoo says hi. As do Kevin Stevens and Brad Boyes.

Wait, what are we talking about?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
Do I carry the one?
- Streit2ThePoint


sometimes.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
They went ahead and got him for 5 years, too.
- JAKEw1234


worked out for fonzi in vancouver. why not start with a 3 year deal for (frank)'s sake?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
QUIT MAKING ME LOOK THINGS UP!!!!



(kidding, I knew that one)

- mayorofangrytown


i believe you.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
Get the metric out of here. We're using ppb and that's it. Maybe ppt.
- jmatchett383


I was gonna suggest cubits.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
Get the metric out of here. We're using ppb and that's it. Maybe ppt.
- jmatchett383


i'd rather use pbr. wait, um, no... i'd rather not use it for anything.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
Andrew MacDonald is too passive at the blue line = advanced stats need context.

Straw men for everyone.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
afternoon gents
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Andrew MacDonald is too passive at the blue line = advanced stats need context.

Straw men for everyone.

- bradleyc4


funny thing is the original comment was nothing more than an eyeball comment - stats weren't even mentioned or hinted at in any way.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Andrew MacDonald is too passive at the blue line = advanced stats need context.

Straw men for everyone.

- bradleyc4


Times Andrew MacDonald has backed in at the blue line > times the circular advanced stats argument has been discussed on here.

True or False?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
afternoon gents
- stayinthefnnet


thank god for the infidel. please change the subject in here. i'm begging you.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
funny thing is the original comment was nothing more than an eyeball comment - stats weren't even mentioned or hinted at in any way.
- hammarby31


Stop bringing up your useless magic stats!!!
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Andrew MacDonald is too passive at the blue line = advanced stats need context.

Straw men for everyone.

- bradleyc4

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Does anyone want to bring up Rob Brown and toss around the term 'obviously" and compare goal scoring and poor zone entry/Andy MacDonald or would this be too logical of an approach?
- mayorofangrytown



All goals are roof daddy end-to-end rushes... it's obviously black and white. Nobody ever had one go in off the pants, or was on the receiving end of a great pass for a tap, or got credited as the last guy who touched the puck on an own goal.

Good thing, because it would suck to have to throw the entire stat out because it was tainted by "false data", like all those other stats.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
funny thing is the original comment was nothing more than an eyeball comment - stats weren't even mentioned or hinted at in any way.
- hammarby31


Exactly my point.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
afternoon gents
- stayinthefnnet


Your sieve of a Stanley Cup champion goalie has only played 2 full games of shutout hockey. He's got quite a ways to go the match the immortal Ilya Bryzgalov.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
All goals are roof daddy end-to-end rushes... it's obviously black and white. Nobody ever had one go in off the pants, or was on the receiving end of a great pass for a tap, or got credited as the last guy who touched the puck on an own goal.

Good thing, because it would suck to have to throw the entire stat out because it was tainted by "false data", like all those other stats.

- Tomahawk


John LeClair, who scored 50+ goals in multiple seasons, scored every single one by deking out the entire opposition, ripping a shot past the goalie, skating super fast the puck to stop it before it crossed the line, took off his pants, defeated communism, deked around the entire team (even the guys on the bench), signed a puck for a kid in a hospital, and fired a lazy one-handed wrister past the goalie from the red line.

That's how REAL goal scorers score goals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
I do not give a poop about Lundqvist. My point was not about a goalie.

I'm saying these numbers aren't irrelevant just because you say so. They are a recorded stat line. Yes they are susceptible to interpretation, but they are far from meaningless.

- FlyersSteve118



I never stated that they are irrelevant. I said they need to be used in the correct context.
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