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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 29 @ 12:43 AM ET
Wild finish
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 29 @ 12:46 AM ET
Wild finish
- VANTEL


Maybe it's just me, but how can there be any question as to who is going to be in net for San Jose in game 7? To me it's a no brainer, and you go with the guy who not only got you there, but is a Stanley Cup winner with extensive experience in high pressure games.

Edit: you have to feel a bit sorry for San Jose
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 29 @ 12:47 AM ET
NHL refs
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:56 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
By my (very unofficial) count, Williams now has 13 points (9 goals) in 12 career games where his team could be eliminated.


Mr playoffs. David Kreiji is another one of those guys that post modest numbers in the first 82 games but look like superstars in the postseason.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 29 @ 1:18 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
By my (very unofficial) count, Williams now has 13 points (9 goals) in 12 career games where his team could be eliminated.


Mr playoffs. David Kreiji is another one of those guys that post modest numbers in the first 82 games but look like superstars in the postseason.

- AlexF


There are definitely players who simply excel in the play-offs and when the games really count. The guys you mention as well as players like Doughty, Lucic, Bergeron, Briere, Franzen, Holmstrom, Bolland, C Lemieux ). Just something about the post-season that brings their level of play up another notch (although it seems like last year's phenom - Bickell was a one-off based on this year's play-offs so far).

Edit: of course I would be remiss in not including T Linden in that group
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:18 AM ET
I've always loved the way that guy plays.
- AlexF


Same.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:21 AM ET
There are definitely players who simply excel in the play-offs and when the games really count. The guys you mention as well as players like Doughty, Lucic, Bergeron, Briere, Bolland, C Lemieux ). Just something about the post-season that brings their level of play up another notch (although it seems like last year's phenom - Bickell was a one-off based on this year's play-offs so far).
- Zogg

Yeah, you definitely need at least a couple of guys who step up offensively in big games.


Bickell was pretty noticeable physically, he creates space for the skill guys when called upon. But yeah, he was a great luxury when Chicago had him at a bargain rate of like 1 million or less for years. He was like their 12th/13th forward when they used to beat us, those teams were (frank)ing stacked, at least by salary cap standards(Canucks and Hawks).


(frank), I wish we had Bowman as our senior advisor.


Bowman does like Lack though.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 29 @ 1:28 AM ET
Yeah, you definitely need at least a couple of guys who step up offensively in big games.


Bickell was pretty noticeable physically, he creates space for the skill guys when called upon. But yeah, he was a great luxury when Chicago had him at a bargain rate of like 1 million or less for years. He was like their 12th/13th forward when they used to beat us, those teams were (frank)ing stacked, at least by salary cap standards(Canucks and Hawks).

- Nucker101


Absolutely, it's just mind-boggling how many supporting pieces that team had - Versteeg, Bolland, Brouwer, Campbell, Colin Fraser, Andrew Ladd, Byfuglien,, Kopecky, Madden..... yikes, talk about deep, that's just insane
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:38 AM ET
Absolutely, it's just mind-boggling how many supporting pieces that team had - Versteeg, Bolland, Brouwer, Campbell, Colin Fraser, Andrew Ladd, Byfuglien,, Kopecky, Madden..... yikes, talk about deep, that's just insane
- Zogg



No kidding. Ladd-Bolland-Versteeg was a great 3rd line. Fraser doesn't belong though.

Canucks weren't bad either. Back in 08/09 when healthy we had something like:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Demitra - Sundin - Kesler
Raymond - Wellwood - Hansen
Pyatt - R.Johnson - Bernier

Edler - Salo
Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - O'Brien



And 09/10:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Grabner
Demitra - Wellwood - Samuelsson
Glass - Johnson - Bernier

Edler- Ehrhoff
Mitchell - Bieksa
O'Brien - Salo


10/11:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Higgins - Lappy - Glass

Edler- Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo

Luongo
Schneider

Not sure what the lines were(those teams were rarely fully healthy during the playoffs).
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 29 @ 1:45 AM ET
No kidding. Ladd-Bolland-Versteeg was a great 3rd line. Fraser doesn't belong though.

Canucks weren't bad either. Back in 08/09 when healthy we had something like:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Demitra - Sundin - Kesler
Raymond - Wellwood - Hansen
Pyatt - R.Johnson - Bernier

Edler - Salo
Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - O'Brien



And 09/10:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Grabner
Demitra - Wellwood - Samuelsson
Glass - Johnson - Bernier

Edler- Ehrhoff
Mitchell - Bieksa
O'Brien - Salo


10/11:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Higgins - Lappy - Glass

Edler- Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo

Luongo
Schneider

Not sure what the lines were(those teams were rarely fully healthy during the playoffs).

- Nucker101


Ahhh the memories, indeed.... seems like a lifetime ago
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:49 AM ET
No kidding. Ladd-Bolland-Versteeg was a great 3rd line. Fraser doesn't belong though.

Canucks weren't bad either. Back in 08/09 when healthy we had something like:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Demitra - Sundin - Kesler
Raymond - Wellwood - Hansen
Pyatt - R.Johnson - Bernier

Edler - Salo
Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - O'Brien



And 09/10:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Grabner
Demitra - Wellwood - Samuelsson
Glass - Johnson - Bernier

Edler- Ehrhoff
Mitchell - Bieksa
O'Brien - Salo


10/11:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Higgins - Lappy - Glass

Edler- Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo

Luongo
Schneider

Not sure what the lines were(those teams were rarely fully healthy during the playoffs).

- Nucker101


Samuelson, Malhotra, Torres, Ehrhoff, and even Salo to an extent were all players that provided things we've never been able to replace.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 29 @ 2:04 AM ET
http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...t_id=16093&user_id=177450
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 29 @ 2:27 AM ET
http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...t_id=16093&user_id=177450
- Nucker101


"The one thing Hodgson has surely proven is that he has great offensive skill. He knows how to score and he knows how to set people up."

Can't imagine what team we know that might have benefited from these unique skillsets.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Apr 29 @ 3:18 AM ET
There are definitely players who simply excel in the play-offs and when the games really count. The guys you mention as well as players like Doughty, Lucic, Bergeron, Briere, Franzen, Holmstrom, Bolland, C Lemieux ). Just something about the post-season that brings their level of play up another notch (although it seems like last year's phenom - Bickell was a one-off based on this year's play-offs so far).

Edit: of course I would be remiss in not including T Linden in that group

- Zogg


Maybe Vancouver should Draft Claude Lemieux's son in the second round. Apparently he plays just like his dad.

Plus Ekblad said he would absolutely hate to play against him, but loved having him on his team.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Apr 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
No kidding. Ladd-Bolland-Versteeg was a great 3rd line. Fraser doesn't belong though.

Canucks weren't bad either. Back in 08/09 when healthy we had something like:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Demitra - Sundin - Kesler
Raymond - Wellwood - Hansen
Pyatt - R.Johnson - Bernier

Edler - Salo
Mitchell - Bieksa
Ohlund - O'Brien



And 09/10:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Grabner
Demitra - Wellwood - Samuelsson
Glass - Johnson - Bernier

Edler- Ehrhoff
Mitchell - Bieksa
O'Brien - Salo


10/11:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Higgins - Lappy - Glass

Edler- Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo

Luongo
Schneider

Not sure what the lines were(those teams were rarely fully healthy during the playoffs).

- Nucker101


According to Torts, we have to stop living in 2010.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 29 @ 11:40 AM ET
According to Torts, we have to stop living in 2010.
- Linden_4_Capt

Speaking of which................
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
Speaking of which................
- Marwood

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 29 @ 11:53 AM ET
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but...
- thundachunk

I will be thoroughly disgusted if they keep him on. It will make the Trevor as president signing just a pathetic PR move to stem the spiral into years of insignificance.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:08 PM ET
I will be thoroughly disgusted if they keep him on. It will make the Trevor as president signing just a pathetic PR move to stem the spiral into years of insignificance.
- Marwood

I think he will leave the coach up to the GM. There will be a house cleaning no doubt. MG's first mistake when he became GM was keeping AV. AV did a good job in his tenure but if a GM comes in and doesn't bring in his own choice as coach it sets a bad president. Unless the coach you want is unavailable. I can only think of a few current NHL head coaches I would want.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
Speaking of which................
- Marwood


No Kidding. Even FLA fired their coach today...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
No Kidding. Even FLA fired their coach today...
- Chest Rockwell

Starting to get quite worried. Believing less and less that things are going to change for the better anytime soon. Fire Torts and let the new GM start with a clean slate.


At least Keenan was decisive!!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:02 PM ET
Starting to get quite worried. Believing less and less that things are going to change for the better anytime soon. Fire Torts and let the new GM start with a clean slate.


At least Keenan was decisive!!

- Marwood


He was still Keenan.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
He was still Keenan.
- thundachunk

I know but this is where I find myself now, finding the good things in Keenan's tenure. Sad.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Apr 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
Lucic preparing for round 2 against the Habs:

AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
I know but this is where I find myself now, finding the good things in Keenan's tenure. Sad.
- Marwood


Why worry until there's something to be worried about is my philosophy. There's far too much time between now and training camp for house that Johnny Canuck built to be remodeled.
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