If you dont mind... what would you define as "the house"?
- jak521

The Ed Snider Estate:

That money already went to AMac (yay!).

Unless they're going to pull another Richards/Carter type deal, or are willing to dump Grossmann/VL/Hartnell, they can barely re-up the RFA's and fill out the roster with the paltry sum they have to work with.
- Tomahawk

So your saying Coburn in theory is likely to be the # 1 dman next year? Good lord.

It was tried in yesterday's game.
- Feanor

Forgive me i didnt notice... Id still roll it a little while tho. Need to give these things more than a couple shifts, sometimes.

So your saying Coburn in theory is likely to be the # 1 dman next year? Good lord.
- PLindbergh31

Why are you surprised? He was this year in terms of ice time, and the year before that till he got injured.

So your saying Coburn in theory is likely to be the # 1 dman next year? Good lord.
- PLindbergh31

He's already our de facto #1 this year, since Kimmo went into early retirement, lol

Giroux/Hartnell have exactly 1 more goal combined..

On another sad note.. Mark Streit is the co-leader in points for the Flyers in the playoffs. He is tied with Giroux and Voracek with three points each.
- jak521

It's tough to look at numbers in playoff series. Small sample size and all that....

Hasn't Crosby gone 9 playoff games in a row without scoring a goal now?

Not really sure but im figuring around 6 mill per year since we gave that to Timmonen's corpse this year.
- JoeRussomanno

It will take more than that.

It will take more than that.
- PhillySportsGuy

Ok fine whose head is rolling?

He's already our de facto #1 this year, since Kimmo went into early retirement, lol
- Tomahawk

This is true. To think next year there will be close to 30 million dollars committed to the backend, with no semblance of a # 1 guy.

He's already our de facto #1 this year, since Kimmo went into early retirement, lol
- Tomahawk

The MacDonald for $5M is making me angrier and angrier by the day. I know that was fair market value, but I would rather pay fair market value to Markov, Boyle, Niskanen or Stralman.

This is true. To think next year there will be close to 30 million dollars committed to the backend, with no semblance of a # 1 guy.
- PLindbergh31

Allright i just dry heaved thanks

Vinny has more to offer than Rinaldo.



It was tried in yesterday's game.
- Feanor

and i thought they looked better with him, more speed

The MacDonald for $5M is making me angrier and angrier by the day. I know that was fair market value, but I would rather pay fair market value to Markov, Boyle, Niskanen or Stralman.
- PhillySportsGuy

Let's face it... only reasons AMac sniffed $5M:

1) Homer, in his sage wisdom, pre-empted the market (again),
2) Capuano stupidly used him as a top-pairing dman.


Chris Butler's not getting anywhere close to $5M and he's a virtual AMac clone .

The MacDonald for $5M is making me angrier and angrier by the day. I know that was fair market value, but I would rather pay fair market value to Markov, Boyle, Niskanen or Stralman.
- PhillySportsGuy

Eh this all goes back to last offseason for me... I dont mind mcdonald but the fromt office needs to stop jumping on anything and everything that becomes available... Streit has played well this year but hes not the answer or even a longterm solution... Vinny was just marketing ploy to sell some price gouged jerseys at that mall they call the wfc... Thats two signings that really hurt this team and maybe now ppl will understand my vitriolic change last summer... Maybe.

The MacDonald for $5M is making me angrier and angrier by the day. I know that was fair market value, but I would rather pay fair market value to Markov, Boyle, Niskanen or Stralman.
- PhillySportsGuy

Markov and Boyle are both 35+.

Niskanen could get 7/42 if he doesn't take a discount to stay in Pittsburgh. And why would he choose to come here? He has his pick of the league.

Allright i just dry heaved thanks
- JoeRussomanno

Actually closer to 22 million right now. But that is with only 5 dmen signed.

Actually closer to 22 million right now. But that is with only 5 dmen signed.
- PLindbergh31

Thats still disgusting

Chris Butler's not getting anywhere close to $5M and he's a virtual AMac clone .
- Tomahawk

You think that, but the GMs in the NHL don't. Not just Holmgren.

The MacDonald for $5M is making me angrier and angrier by the day. I know that was fair market value, but I would rather pay fair market value to Markov, Boyle, Niskanen or Stralman.
- PhillySportsGuy

Markov is too brittle & Boyle is too old. I like Niskanen but don't we expect the Pens to extend him? If not, there are plenty of possible moves to free up the space to get him.

All that said, the Flyers' much-hyped forward depth isn't bearing itself out in these playoffs. This team seems like it needs another sniper. The Vinny signing looks ugly right now - he has been a complete and utter non-factor in this series. They don't even know where they should play the guy.

Actually closer to 22 million right now. But that is with only 5 dmen signed.
- PLindbergh31

Think we're seeing the end of the Grossmann era?

Think we're seeing the end of the Grossmann era?
- BulliesPhan87

At this point i think you have to move whoever you can. Nothing against grossmann or any of them really but its a not a great mix of blueliners... Ironic since theyve been least of problems in this series

Let's face it... only reasons AMac sniffed $5M:

1) Homer, in his sage wisdom, pre-empted the market (again),
2) Capuano stupidly used him as a top-pairing dman.


Chris Butler's not getting anywhere close to $5M and he's a virtual AMac clone .
- Tomahawk

The Flyers have been a good drafting team and Homer has won most of his trades. His signings have been bad though. Can you imagine this team if they didn't have the compliance buyouts? He moves two bad contracts out and more bad contracts in. It's like he has no hindsight in any of these deals.

At this point i think you have to move whoever you can. Nothing against grossmann or any of them really but its a not a great mix of blueliners... Ironic since theyve been least of problems in this series
- JoeRussomanno

The mix isn't great, for sure. I wouldn't bank on addition by subtraction though, even if the cap dollars are really piling up.

Markov and Boyle are both 35+.

Niskanen could get 7/42 if he doesn't take a discount to stay in Pittsburgh. And why would he choose to come here? He has his pick of the league.
- Feanor

I would rather have Niskanen for $6M than MacDonald for $5M! Niskanen is a better player than MacDonald. He's just as good defensively and much better offensively. He's, also, a right handed shot.

You think that, but the GMs in the NHL don't. Not just Holmgren.
- Feanor

Statistically, usage-wise, and in terms of physical tools, they're virtually identical. Except that Butler's bigger and a bit better offensively.