Richards and Carter cant hold Girouxs jock strap.
- GOA88

Oh really do tell? Under their tenure ww had a couple deep runs in the playyoffs with equally talented teams around them and subpar goaltending. What has giroux done? Oh yea he clowned sidney crosby on a play... Big (frank)ing deal

They cant find a third line center? Really?
- JoeRussomanno

Joe, do you want them to trade Giroux for a legit #1 defender?
I guess I missed this part.
Where do they find a #1 center then?

Dude, the Rangers are better than them. They don't have the horses to compete with this team. The Rangers are a veteran team built 4 lines deep with a group of top 4 and goalie rivaling any team in the league.

Flyers have a good top line, good shutdown line, decent goalie and a group of inconsistent defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

I thought we have the best center in hockey? That has to count for something... Right?!

we had a nice conversation one day, I asked how he felt about Marchand and he said he prays for all their players

Next day it was" (frank) off you little punk"


- Marc D

I thought we have the best center in hockey? That has to count for something... Right?!
- JoeRussomanno

Getzlaff
Toews
Crosby
Malkin

We have none of them

Joe, do you want them to trade Giroux for a legit #1 defender?
I guess I missed this part.
Where do they find a #1 center then?
- Marc D

Yes to your first question. To your second they dont have one as of now so no skin off their backs.

Getlaff
Toews
Crosby
Malkin

We have none of them
- Marc D

Oh so we would survive unloading giroux then?

Oh really do tell? Under their tenure ww had a couple deep runs in the playyoffs with equally talented teams around them and subpar goaltending. What has giroux done? Oh yea he clowned sidney crosby on a play... Big (frank)ing deal
- JoeRussomanno

You are joking, right?

Giroux is only a plus PPG player in the playoffs.. an extremely difficult task to accomplish.. was also pretty instrumental in the cup run, WHILE Richards and Carter were still here.

Wow, I'm pretty sure we'd all have been thrilled with this team if you had told us they were going to make the playoffs back when the regular season started and they fired Laviolette.

I'm not saying I'm satisfied, but anyone who looks at this team, as currently constituted, and thinks they were capable of a deep playoff run is seriously deep into the Orange Kool-Aid. Some pieces are really young and some pieces are kind of out of place. This team is very much a work in progress. They are not built to win now.

Oh, and the notion of trading Claude Giroux is batpoop crazy. I'm going to pretend that whoever brought it up did so ironically.

Yes to your first question. To your second they dont have one as of now so no skin off their backs.
- JoeRussomanno

G is a first line center
Not the best in the league but a good one
Sorry if you don't think so but most people would agree on this

You are joking, right?

Giroux is only a plus PPG player in the playoffs.. an extremely difficult task to accomplish.. was also pretty instrumental in the cup run, WHILE Richards and Carter were still here.
- jak521

As a secondary player he was amazing.

[quote=JoeRussomanno]
It would fill one hole and open another

Top center
Top winger
Shut down center
#1 D
Goalie

Every contender needs these pieces

G is a first line center
Not the best in the league but a good one
Sorry if you don't think so but most people would agree on this
- Marc D

G for all of St. Louis's defensemen. Man I covet those defensemen.

Oh really do tell? Under their tenure ww had a couple deep runs in the playyoffs with equally talented teams around them and subpar goaltending. What has giroux done? Oh yea he clowned sidney crosby on a play... Big (frank)ing deal
- JoeRussomanno

You forget Giroux was a part of those teams. Giroux is the reason Richards became expendable. What has Richards done lately? And dont tell me the Stanley Cup because the Kings were winning it without him anyways.

I thought we have the best center in hockey? That has to count for something... Right?!
- JoeRussomanno

He's not the best in the world. He's one of the best and it does count for something. He can't carry a team by himself though. No player can carry a team to a Cup by themselves. The unreal expectations people put on Giroux is ridiculous. The Rangers are focusing exclusively on Giroux. Guys like Toews and Crosby have the luxury of other star players to split the burden. They also have defenseman capable of moving the puck more than 20 feet at a time.

There is a reason Voracek has more room to operate. It's because Giroux has, at least, one Ranger on top of him at all times. They have completely focused all of their energy on stopping him. Even on the PP they pressure him right away. He's forced to get rid of the puck.

Yes to your first question. To your second they dont have one as of now so no skin off their backs.
- JoeRussomanno

this is pretty funny stuff

Wow, I'm pretty sure we'd all have been thrilled with this team if you had told us they were going to make the playoffs back when the regular season started and they fired Laviolette.

I'm not saying I'm satisfied, but anyone who looks at this team, as currently constituted, and thinks they were capable of a deep playoff run is seriously deep into the Orange Kool-Aid. Some pieces are really young and some pieces are kind of out of place. This team is very much a work in progress. They are not built to win now.

Oh, and the notion of trading Claude Giroux is batpoop crazy. I'm going to pretend that whoever brought it up did so ironically.
- johndewar

They thought einstein was crazy too so no offense taken... As for me ive been called/refered tp as a variety of things for things like pointing out briere was washed up before 2012 playoffs, criticizing the lecavalier signing won me all sorts of wonderful remarks. Sometimes you gotta make the tough calls.

He's not the best in the world. He's one of the best and it does count for something. He can't carry a team by himself though. No player can carry a team to a Cup by themselves. The unreal expectations people put on Giroux is ridiculous. The Rangers are focusing exclusively on Giroux. Guys like Toews and Crosby have the luxury of other star players to split the burden. They also have defenseman capable of moving the puck more than 20 feet at a time.

There is a reason Voracek has more room to operate. It's because Giroux has, at least, one Ranger on top of him at all times. They have completely focused all of their energy on stopping him. Even on the PP they pressure him right away. He's forced to get rid of the puck.
- PhillySportsGuy

THANK YOU. Some common sense.

As a secondary player he was amazing.
- JoeRussomanno

And as a primary player he has been the best Flyer we have seen in a decade.

He is one of the best point producing players in the NHL since the trade.

But, he is having a bad series.. so, ya know.. he isnt even a #1 center.

You forget Giroux was a part of those teams. Giroux is the reason Richards became expendable. What has Richards done lately? And dont tell me the Stanley Cup because the Kings were winning it without him anyways.
- GOA88

Richards has won a championship at every level he's played.

Oh really do tell? Under their tenure ww had a couple deep runs in the playyoffs with equally talented teams around them and subpar goaltending. What has giroux done? Oh yea he clowned sidney crosby on a play... Big (frank)ing deal
- JoeRussomanno

Giroux outplayed both Richards and Carter in the 2010 and 2011 playoffs. You need to get over those guys already.

And as a primary player he has been the best Flyer we have seen in a decade.

He is one of the best point producing players in the NHL since the trade.

But, he is having a bad series.. so, ya know.. he isnt even a #1 center.
- jak521

He had a rough series against nj too... But hey that was a bunch of norris trophy winners and a goalie still well within his prime

They thought einstein was crazy too so no offense taken... As for me ive been called/refered tp as a variety of things for things like pointing out briere was washed up before 2012 playoffs, criticizing the lecavalier signing won me all sorts of wonderful remarks. Sometimes you gotta make the tough calls.
- JoeRussomanno

What does trading Giroux accomplish? You plug 1 hole and open up another.

Giroux outplayed both Richards and Carter in the 2010 and 2011 playoffs. You need to get over those guys already.
- Feanor

I wasnt heartbroken when they got traded. If we thought we could win a cup with them, they would still be here. WE DONT HAVE JONATHAN QUICK. HELLLLOOO

G for all of St. Louis's defensemen. Man I covet those defensemen.
- FlyersGrace

I'd take Doughty or Keith straight up

But let's keep G
We have ghost and morin coming