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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:49 AM ET
I only skimmed this, but no.
- jmatchett383




Neither Winnipeg nor Toronto nor Hartnell would do these trades.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 16 @ 10:50 AM ET
I don't want jagr. I know he and g had chemistry but he is going to be 42 and you don't get better with age. It will catch up to him. And i know what he did this year. But look at the philles. Thought they could keep getting one more year and now look at the aged roster.
- J35Bacher


I know he's not putting up numbers in his youth years but 67 points this season is pretty remarkable given his age. And he still plays with gas in the tank. I'd love to add him back to the roster.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
I know he's not putting up numbers in his youth years but 67 points this season is pretty remarkable given his age. And he still plays with gas in the tank. I'd love to add him back to the roster.
- Streit2ThePoint


Even if his production dips to around 40 points, his presence in the locker room would be fantastic.

But why think about this when we can fantasize about crazy blockbuster trades that change the complexion of the team?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Jagr will be too expensive, and he'll want to go somewhere he is guaranteed 1st line minutes.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
Disagree Your giving too much to Winnipeg. I dont really want Kane either
- Just5



So provide a better idea. I think the chance to get out of the Hartnell deal and get a guy like kane who can play on multiple lines and plays a fast gritty style would be good for this team. PLus he is younger and contractis not bad. You can't just run the same team out there year after year. there is always turnover somewhere in the lineup.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:52 AM ET
So provide a better idea. I think the chance to get out of the Hartnell deal and get a guy like kane who can play on multiple lines and plays a fast gritty style would be good for this team. PLus he is younger and contractis not bad. You can't just run the same team out there year after year. there is always turnover somewhere in the lineup.
- J35Bacher

I can see Winnipeg asking for couts straight up for kane.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
Any truth to the fact that each playoff team is allowed to use a 10 lb sledgehammer for one shift each series?
- jmatchett383


I'm not exactly sure, but I think the new CBA might have gotten rid of that one, something about the integrity of the game and protecting players from headshots.

Wussification rears its little sissy head again.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
Even if his production dips to around 40 points, his presence in the locker room would be fantastic.

But why think about this when we can fantasize about crazy blockbuster trades that change the complexion of the team?

- jmatchett383



His presence is not needed any more. I think G took the step forward this year as the leader and the new leadership group will be needed. As kimmo goes someone new steps in like Cooter or Striet and Vinny is still there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
So provide a better idea. I think the chance to get out of the Hartnell deal and get a guy like kane who can play on multiple lines and plays a fast gritty style would be good for this team. PLus he is younger and contractis not bad. You can't just run the same team out there year after year. there is always turnover somewhere in the lineup.
- J35Bacher


First of all, why do we need to "get out" of the Hartnell deal? He's actually had a good season, and seems to have good chemistry anywhere in the top-6, not to mention he and G have a good relationship off the ice.

Secondly, why are we giving up Braydon Schenn, who's finally showing signs of being the player he was picked as, plus his brother, who's finally showing signs of a brain, for a guy that Winnipeg has hinted at shopping?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:55 AM ET
Jagr will be too expensive, and he'll want to go somewhere he is guaranteed 1st line minutes.
- Feanor


He would be on our first line. He's a better fit with Giroux than Jake. Jake is a distributor just like Giroux.

I would prefer Jagr on the top PP as well because he can really fire the puck.

The Flyers would be a very attractive option for Jagr.

Playoff team, knows the personnel and staff, enjoyed his time here, top line minutes, first line PP, has chemistry with certain players already and he gets to play with one of the best players in the world.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 16 @ 10:55 AM ET
Even if his production dips to around 40 points, his presence in the locker room would be fantastic.

But why think about this when we can fantasize about crazy blockbuster trades that change the complexion of the team?

- jmatchett383


I'd like to see:

To NJ:
Vorecek
L. Schenn
Hartnell

To PHI:
Sestito

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:56 AM ET
His presence is not needed any more. I think G took the step forward this year as the leader and the new leadership group will be needed. As kimmo goes someone new steps in like Cooter or Striet and Vinny is still there.
- J35Bacher


The hell it isn't. Jagr is exactly the kind of player every championship team would want in the room when you hit a rough patch. Can never have too much of that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'd like to see:

To NJ:
Vorecek
L. Schenn
Hartnell

To PHI:
Sestito

- Streit2ThePoint


NOW we're talking.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 16 @ 10:56 AM ET
I can see Winnipeg asking for couts straight up for kane.
- rangerdanger94



Possibly. I was trying to think logically because I know they need a center. and some help on the back end. Thats why I went with B.Schenn and L.Schenn. I added the pick because Kane's contract is not a bad contract in dollars and length. I would rather keep Cooter and make a shutdown line like the Devils d all those yers with Pandolfo and Madden and caused fits.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
Possibly. I was trying to think logically because I know they need a center. and some help on the back end. Thats why I went with B.Schenn and L.Schenn. I added the pick because Kane's contract is not a bad contract in dollars and length. I would rather keep Cooter and make a shutdown line like the Devils d all those yers with Pandolfo and Madden and caused fits.
- J35Bacher


With Trouba, Bosogian, Enstrom, and Buff on their back end, they don't need help there at all, and certainly much less than the Flyers do.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
I can see Winnipeg asking for couts straight up for kane.
- rangerdanger94

Sans Hartnell and Downie I wouldn't trade any of our top 9 forwards for Kane. Incredibly overated player.

They Flyers could probably offer Laughton and the first and get a similar winger without having to trade away Coots or SChenn.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 16 @ 10:58 AM ET
He would be on our first line. He's a better fit with Giroux than Jake. Jake is a distributor just like Giroux.

I would prefer Jagr on the top PP as well because he can really fire the puck.

The Flyers would be a very attractive option for Jagr.

Playoff team, knows the personnel and staff, enjoyed his time here, top line minutes, first line PP, has chemistry with certain players already and he gets to play with one of the best players in the world.

- PhillySportsGuy


Plus Jagr can relive his glory days, try to capture a little bit of that magic when he was younger and first pulled a Flyers jersey over his head.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 16 @ 10:59 AM ET

- Streit2ThePoint


"Anything worth doing is worth doing right."
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 10:59 AM ET
Possibly. I was trying to think logically because I know they need a center. and some help on the back end. Thats why I went with B.Schenn and L.Schenn. I added the pick because Kane's contract is not a bad contract in dollars and length. I would rather keep Cooter and make a shutdown line like the Devils d all those yers with Pandolfo and Madden and caused fits.
- J35Bacher


Kane provides the team with offense. They really aren't hurting for goals. They finished 8th in the league after getting off to a horrendous start.

If you're moving the Schenns, I would much rather go after a legit top pairing dman than Kane.

You're trade proposal is essentially Hartnell, Schenn, Schenn for Kane. Is Kane really worth 2 top 6 forwards and a top 6 defenseman?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 10:59 AM ET
The hell it isn't. Jagr is exactly the kind of player every championship team would want in the room when you hit a rough patch. Can never have too much of that.
- jmatchett383

You bring Jagr back and Jakes numbers plummet. Kind of pointless. If you're adding anyone to the top line its a LW.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
First of all, why do we need to "get out" of the Hartnell deal? He's actually had a good season, and seems to have good chemistry anywhere in the top-6, not to mention he and G have a good relationship off the ice.

Secondly, why are we giving up Braydon Schenn, who's finally showing signs of being the player he was picked as, plus his brother, who's finally showing signs of a brain, for a guy that Winnipeg has hinted at shopping?

- jmatchett383



I prefer to move sooner then later on guys like hartenll. is His his style going to allow him to continue to be successful as he gets older. Will him slowing down make him even more prone to bad penalties. I know the chemistry but i would like to be proactive instead of reactive once his speed and skills really decline.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
Anybody confirm whether Mason did or did not practice today?

Seth Rothman ‏@RothmanHockey 7m
From #Flyers beat writers at their practice, Steve Mason (upper-body) did not practice today. Ray Emery could be in goal tomorrow for PHI.


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 16 @ 11:01 AM ET
Kane provides the team with offense. They really aren't hurting for goals. They finished 8th in the league after getting off to a horrendous start.

If you're moving the Schenns, I would much rather go after a legit top pairing dman than Kane.

You're trade proposal is essentially Hartnell, Schenn, Schenn for Kane. Is Kane really worth 2 top 6 forwards and a top 6 defenseman?

- PhillySportsGuy


So move hartnell to toronto for Gardnier or Franson who are RFAs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 16 @ 11:01 AM ET
Anybody confirm whether Mason did or did not practice today?
- wolfhounds


Confirmed by like 10 sources. He wasn't at practice. Sam Carchidi has already written an article about how Emery is the likely starter.
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