This is what I am thinking too . Hansen being a fan of the peg and his lovely wife would probably jump at the offer.
- VANTEL

He is saying he would NOT throw Hansen to WPG just to talk to a guy who may or may not stick around. Van should absolutely pursue this guy.. but it needs to be done in a way that makes sense. You don't give up any more than maybe a 4th rounder or a dwindling prospect to get his rights. It would be silly to, this guy isn't Kane.

You're under valuing majority of our players... Sedins were still close to PPG guys last season. Mike Bernstein said he had never seen injuries the way he has this season, Sedins should not kill penalties. It was an off year for alot of guys, the whole team struggled throughout most of the season. I would be concerned if the whole team was getting career highs and Henrik finished with 40 points while playing 82 games. Sedins are still 70 point players, and are going to be key contributors moving forward.

He is saying he would NOT throw Hansen to WPG just to talk to a guy who may or may not stick around. Van should absolutely pursue this guy.. but it needs to be done in a way that makes sense. You don't give up any more than maybe a 4th rounder or a dwindling prospect to get his rights. It would be silly to, this guy isn't Kane.

You're under valuing majority of our players... Sedins were still close to PPG guys last season. Mike Bernstein said he had never seen injuries the way he has this season, Sedins should not kill penalties. It was an off year for alot of guys, the whole team struggled throughout most of the season. I would be concerned if the whole team was getting career highs and Henrik finished with 40 points while playing 82 games. Sedins are still 70 point players, and are going to be key contributors moving forward.
- TimThomasLunge

So, Schroeder for the rights to Burmistrov? Where do we sign?

Hansen + for Burmistrov
Burrows Schroeder to Car for Sekera
Kesler to Ana for Etem and Ottawas first
Edler Markstrom to Minny for Niño
Higgins Jensen to MTL for Tinordi
UFA Englund Moulsen Downie

Sedin Sedin Moulsen
Niño Burmistrov Etem
Booth Richardson Kassian
Sestito Mathias Downie

Sekera Bieksa
Hanhuis Tanev
Englund Tinordi

Lack
.

Gillis insulted Moj? I knew there was something I liked about the guy...

So, Schroeder for the rights to Burmistrov? Where do we sign?
- Chest Rockwell

He remains an rfa beyond this year and we retain his future rights for when he returns to the nhl (no waivers or anything crazy like that)?

I guess that is a no brainer.

Gillis insulted Moj? I knew there was something I liked about the guy...
- DrChristianTroy

A fat sweaty MG insulted a fat media Moj at the team buffet/trough...

Sounds like they deserved each other.

(make room for me at that buffet please)

He remains an rfa beyond this year and we retain his future rights for when he returns to the nhl (no waivers or anything crazy like that)?

I guess that is a no brainer.



A fat sweaty MG insulted a fat media Moj at the team buffet/trough...

Sounds like they deserved each other.
- hillbillydeluxe

I would see if he gets offer sheeted?

Hansen + for Burmistrov
Burrows Schroeder to Car for Sekera
Kesler to Ana for Etem and Ottawas first
Edler Markstrom to Minny for Niño
Higgins Jensen to MTL for Tinordi
UFA Englund Moulsen Downie

Sedin Sedin Moulsen
Niño Burmistrov Etem
Booth Richardson Kassian
Sestito Mathias Downie

Sekera Bieksa
Hanhuis Tanev
Englund Tinordi

Lack
.
- VANTEL

Great roster to get Mcdavid. The only trade that is even remotely fair value is Kesler deal. Why do you want to see all these guys whose value are at an all time low? Kesler is the only guy who makes sense to move at this point

Why are you giving away a solid roster player at a decent price AND something else for a guy who may or may not talk to the team? I pray to god you get no where near this teams management. You are the Mike Milbury of the Canucks board

I'm torn between Ehlers and Ritchie for the pick (assuming Ekblad, Reinhart, Dal Colle, Draisaitl, Bennett and Dal Colle go top 6). Ehlers is roughly half the size of someone who would fit in with the Boston model so I assume they would pass on him.

I would see if he gets offer sheeted?
- VANTEL

I think Nashville is glad Weber's contract doesn't include an NTC.

Thinking if he does get an offer sheet, it may make it easier to sign or let go and get the compensation. Just more options in the equation.

He is saying he would NOT throw Hansen to WPG just to talk to a guy who may or may not stick around. Van should absolutely pursue this guy.. but it needs to be done in a way that makes sense. You don't give up any more than maybe a 4th rounder or a dwindling prospect to get his rights. It would be silly to, this guy isn't Kane.

You're under valuing majority of our players... Sedins were still close to PPG guys last season. Mike Bernstein said he had never seen injuries the way he has this season, Sedins should not kill penalties. It was an off year for alot of guys, the whole team struggled throughout most of the season. I would be concerned if the whole team was getting career highs and Henrik finished with 40 points while playing 82 games. Sedins are still 70 point players, and are going to be key contributors moving forward.
- TimThomasLunge

I don't undervalue the players. Canucks I think slipped to 14 to 16 th spot overall last year . At the beginning of the year I predicted 16 to 22 nd overall.As we can see that was too generous. With this same core I predict we end up bottom 3.

My predictions at the beginning of the year were right about the Sedins Burrows and Luongo, in fact they were one year ahead of time. This is where I predicted them to be next year.

The foot speed is slow
The style is predictable
The emotion is invisible.

I'm torn between Ehlers and Ritchie for the pick (assuming Ekblad, Reinhart, Dal Colle, Draisaitl, Bennett and Dal Colle go top 6). Ehlers is roughly half the size of someone who would fit in with the Boston model so I assume they would pass on him.
- hankthetank

Interesting that they single out the Boston model, over the Chicago model, as the model to emulate.

I'm torn between Ehlers and Ritchie for the pick (assuming Ekblad, Reinhart, Dal Colle, Draisaitl, Bennett and Dal Colle go top 6). Ehlers is roughly half the size of someone who would fit in with the Boston model so I assume they would pass on him.
- hankthetank

There is a few guys that may be available in the same category... don't think you could go wrong with either. Ehlers is my pick

Great roster to get Mcdavid. The only trade that is even remotely fair value is Kesler deal. Why do you want to see all these guys whose value are at an all time low? Kesler is the only guy who makes sense to move at this point

Why are you giving away a solid roster player at a decent price AND something else for a guy who may or may not talk to the team? I pray to god you get no where near this teams management. You are the Mike Milbury of the Canucks board
- TimThomasLunge

Take a look at the standings. All these solid players have us in a solid 25 th overall.

GodDamn people are blind.

We got are asses kicked last night by the Goddamn Edmonton Oilers.

Interesting that they single out the Boston model, over the Chicago model, as the model to emulate.
- AlexF

Chicago model seems tougher to emulate. You'd have to tank, make good trades and be very good at drafting. So far it looks like the Canucks are good at tanking, now they need to sort the drafting and trading part out. Drafting a core of Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook while trading/signing for Sharp and Hossa...
Boston just gets mainly talented, physical players with an edge.
I think they just stick with the Canucks model. It's worked out well in the past.

Interesting that they single out the Boston model, over the Chicago model, as the model to emulate.
- AlexF

Is the Detroit model, that worked for years, passé now?


Thank god they looked at out team and with the Sedins as the #1 line, determined we are ready to emulate the big bad Bruins.


Guys (ownership) should realize the team is like an ocean liner and if you want to change directions, this boat will not turn on a dime.

At least we started this new direction right last draft by taking Shinkaruk.

Take a look at the standings. All these solid players have us in a solid 25 th overall.

GodDamn people are blind.

We got are asses kicked last night by the Goddamn Edmonton Oilers.
- VANTEL

I don't think people are making the case to keep everyone because they are good and will help the team win a Cup. I would be afraid to trade everyone away right now as their values are all at all time lows. Kesler is the only guy who's value would not be impacted by this season, you would think. What team would give anything of value up for guys like Higgins or Burrows after this season? Maybe Snow?

Take a look at the standings. All these solid players have us in a solid 25 th overall.

GodDamn people are blind.

We got are asses kicked last night by the Goddamn Edmonton Oilers.
- VANTEL

Maybe if we stopped dumping and chasing we'd be able to do slightly better. The coach has a lot to answer for this team's performance.

That said, we do require some rejuvenation around here. Anyone who doesn't see that hasn't been watching the past few seasons of Canucks hockey.

And I will go on record and predict that if we trade Kesler we're getting more back than what seemed to be on offer at the TDL. So yes, I think we'll receive better offers than Etem + 1st.

Take a look at the standings. All these solid players have us in a solid 25 th overall.

GodDamn people are blind.

We got are asses kicked last night by the Goddamn Edmonton Oilers.
- VANTEL

It was a group effort... and Markstrom having a .600 SP did not help. There is a few issues going on this season. Injuries, coaching and goaltending (since TDL)

No doubt certain guys need to be better, but there is no need to give away half our roster to make a change for the sake of change. Getting rid of Torts is first step

I don't think people are making the case to keep everyone because they are good and will help the team win a Cup. People don't wanna trade everyone away right now as their values are all at all time lows. Kesler is the only guy who's value would not be impacted by this season, you would think. What team would give anything of value up for guys like Higgins or Burrows after this season? Maybe Snow?
- hankthetank

Your logic sounds right but Linden or whomever the new gm is has to get on the blower and talk to other gm's to see where they have interest.

Every time we play LA, I look at Willie and think when he left the Canucks he went to LA and signed a 4 mil per contract. At the time I thought the Canucks should only offer around 2.5 with his concussion history.... It has hampered him a bit, but LA has prospects to play when he is injured and life goes on.

Players having "off" years and are still coveted is not uncommon. Just depends on the other team's needs and the overall skillset and history of the player.

I don't think people are making the case to keep everyone because they are good and will help the team win a Cup. I would be afraid to trade everyone away right now as their values are all at all time lows. Kesler is the only guy who's value would not be impacted by this season, you would think. What team would give anything of value up for guys like Higgins or Burrows after this season? Maybe Snow?
- hankthetank

I understand the theory of your comment but the reality is if we iced 30 pee wee players how much more could we fall. People have to realize this is a useless team we have now. Tne glory days are over.

Maybe if we stopped dumping and chasing we'd be able to do slightly better. The coach has a lot to answer for this team's performance.

That said, we do require so rejuvenation around here. Anyone who doesn't see that hasn't been watching the past few seasons of Canucks hockey.

And I will go on record and predict that we trade Kesler we're getting more back than what seemed to be on offer at the TDL. So yes, I think we'll receive better offers than Etem + 1st.
- AlexF

Hate seeing the dump and chase on the pp.


Torts, last night, intimated that dump and chase was not his style/system as if the players choose to do it on their own....

I don't know if I remember so many players standing around not knowing who was supposed to be taking whom on goals against as seen with the Canucks this year... I guess that is Torts' system.

It was a group effort... and Markstrom having a .600 SP did not help. There is a few issues going on this season. Injuries, coaching and goaltending (since TDL)

No doubt certain guys need to be better, but there is no need to give away half our roster to make a change for the sake of change. Getting rid of Torts is first step
- TimThomasLunge

We had injuries two years before and a different coach and we went from PT winners to 16 th spot , what does that have to do with Torts . He is only responsible for this year.

We are on a downward trend . People are going to poop themselves next year when Danny boy ends up with 12 goals and 20 assists.

Last year we blamed the shorten season

This year we blame the coach

Next years excuse???

We had injuries two years before and a different coach and we went from PT winners to 16 th spot , what does that have to do with Torts . He is only responsible for this year.

We are on a downward trend . People are going to poop themselves next year when Danny boy ends up with 12 goals and 20 assists.
- VANTEL

Got 20 that's says you'll be wrong

Hate seeing the dump and chase on the pp.


Torts, last night, intimated that dump and chase was not his style/system as if the players choose to do it on their own....

I don't know if I remember so many players standing around not knowing who was supposed to be taking whom on goals against as seen with the Canucks this year... I guess that is Torts' system.
- hillbillydeluxe

What about last year or the one win in the last 11 playoff games? Whose fault?