Conspiracy theory 9000 at it's best but what about this, Mac is running these lines to explicitly illicit a response or be a thorn in the side of Eugene. Think about how he feels as a coach as in he is trying to stimulate players who are getting lowballed (or see franchise players being lowballed) by a cheap ass owner who cries poor even after a blockbuster TV deal.

I am by no means letting Mac off the hook but with all the subtly dropped bombs by the coach you have to think something is definitely a lot more sour than what we are perceiving.
- SeNsFaN0903

This is exactly what I'm thinking.

I'm betting Mac is making more per year than he ever made as a player, and finally felt set after the award to make cash and be trusted to run the team.

Right after being chizzled for a few $K after winning Coach of the Year by Mr. Broke's tactics, imagine having the owner pipe in your ear about running the team, complete with who to play, and likely a strategy to not let the coming free agents shine too much to save for alimony.

Probably even demanded ice time for Greening after the over payment, and what is Murray gonna say after being the initiator of that brain fart?

Maclean seemed too nice and open previously compared to what he has told the press recently, and to me it just feels like there is some background that has pushed him to feel like he has lost his independence. Add in Murray's lukewarm thoughts on his future, and I see Eugene's hands meddling in all over this, from a place where normal operating practices are an afterthought....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biovail

This is exactly what I'm thinking.

I'm betting Mac is making more per year than he ever made as a player, and finally felt set after the award to make cash and be trusted to run the team.

Right after being chizzled for a few $K after winning Coach of the Year by Mr. Broke's tactics, imagine having the owner pipe in your ear about running the team, complete with who to play, and likely a strategy to not let the coming free agents shine too much to save for alimony.

Probably even demanded ice time for Greening after the over payment, and what is Murray gonna say after being the initiator of that brain fart?

Maclean seemed too nice and open previously compared to what he has told the press recently, and to me it just feels like there is some background that has pushed him to feel like he has lost his independence. Add in Murray's lukewarm thoughts on his future, and I see Eugene's hands meddling in all over this, from a place where normal operating practices are an afterthought....
- WillieAA

WOW ..... you think too much

Now, I'm not naive enough to dispute that there are meddling owners in the league (Ballard, Schneider, etc.), but other than on this site has there ever been a whisper of Eugene meddling in day to day affairs??? Nuthin'

Travis should start a weekly 'S Files' post so all you Mulder/Scully wannabees can have a place to discuss the most recent bs that you can create from nothing, discuss adnauseam and ultimately start believing the in the drivel....

it would be pathetic and sad, but social.....

here's a interesting read from senschirp on maclean's coaching. i can't speak for its accuracy as i have no inside perspective / access on the organization. but, i found it interesting nonetheless.

http://senschirp.ca/news/...derstanding-paul-maclean/

What he's really thinking goes no further than this. If he comes back next year and plays great, and the team has a much better year where they make the playoffs and the future looks good, and if they open up the bank account to bring him what he probably would get on the open market, then sure, he resigns.

If he has a rough year and the Senators have a rough year, then he's gone at the deadline. But I'm sure they'll be pulling hard for him to have a great year, because they paid a hefty price for him and they certainly won't let him walk without a fight, unless it seems like he's not worth fighting for. 65+ points next year on a playoff team should do it.
- the_terror

I think they will lock him up this summer. Next year doesn't mean anything if he is already signed.

The part I found interesting is when he said 'I, I mean WE, love it here', in obvious reference to his fiancée.

I mean, that was what everyone was worried about, right? That a girl who just lived in California would like it in Ottawa?

I honestly think Sens fans sell our city short. The Sens have never had a problem resigning one of our own (except Chara who was pissed at how Muckler handled the Hossa - his best bud - contract).

Sure, the weather sucks. The thing is, these guys are so rich that their wives and girlfriends can go away to a warm place every other week if they so desire. When the team is on the road for the week, the wives can go away too.

Other than the weather, everything is positive about Ottawa. Great, clean city. Safe place for kids and families (sure Ryan may like his hometown, but is Philly somewhere you really want to raise your kids, given the choice?). Ottawa is a great community. As McGuire says, "Ottawa is the most underrated city in North America". I always thought he was just giving us lip service, but if you think about it, he's right.

Ryan clearly loves playing in a city that cares about hockey. He clearly loves having fans chant his name. Now that we know his fiancée likes it here too, I think it's pretty much a lock that he stays.

The Ryan's like the city & team.. Now make them love the new contract offer. How does 45.5 million sound Bobby

6.5 mill for 7 years. He's fairly young so the term is good. Ek65 money.

Offer spezza the same $$$ at 4 years in length

Bryan Murray made a BS move by undercutting Maclean and talkig about his future while saying in he same sentence he has no idea what is happening to his team. Murray should of taken responsibility right here and then and said he is going to take the offseason and twerk the team to make it bigger, faster and more poised.

Murray's great and never taking responsibility:
-Alfie leaves - blame the agent
- team falls apart - blame Emery even thou you signed Gerber and he sucks
- hire a bunch of unqualified coaches - I have no idea what went wrong
- team falls apart this season - blame the coach

How about Murray shows some leadership, in 1 calendar year Alfie has left, the team collapsed, Kalrsson doesn't speak to the press or the fans, Spezza is in trade rumours 4 months into his Captaincy

Where's the leadership from the GM? I cant see Holland, Chirelli or any successful GM having so many missteps in 1 season and never take responsibility

The Ryan's like the city & team.. Now make them love the new contract offer. How does 45.5 million sound Bobby

6.5 mill for 7 years. He's fairly young so the term is good. Ek65 money.

Offer spezza the same $$$ at 4 years in length
- Erik6Karlsson5

Too long...

5 Max.

I'm amazed at what conclusions are drawn in this blog. Keep it coming.

I'm amazed at what conclusions are drawn in this blog. Keep it coming.
- Cup 06

are you refering to what travis wrote in the actual blog, or what posters are posting in the boards.

and exactly what conclusions don't you agree with (not including the "conspiracy" ones)

Too long... 5 Max.
- OtownSens

perhaps, but he'd get a 7 year offer as a UFA, so you have to figure that any offer from Ottawa would have to be that as well.

Too long...

5 Max.
- OtownSens

i'm as sure as possible, without actually speaking to ryan himself, that ANY deal he signs will be either 8 years (with ottawa) or 7 years (with a new team). this is gonna be his "big money deal" and he's gonna want max term for as much $$ as possible.

I'm amazed at what conclusions are drawn in this blog. Keep it coming.
- Cup 06

Haha! Sometimes it goes a little off the rails. I, for one, was waiting for you to come in here and set the record straight. Enlighten us.

Haha! Sometimes it goes a little off the rails. I, for one, was waiting for you to come in here and set the record straight. Enlighten us.
- Stringer74

Not today, but I'll have some stuff seasons end. The conspiracy stuff is a little much by both Travis and posters but hey I guess that's what this site is all about.


Some good stuff and some..... Interesting conclusions.

perhaps, but he'd get a 7 year offer as a UFA, so you have to figure that any offer from Ottawa would have to be that as well.
- GadesnSens

Pretty much. If he agrees to less money term will be the concession. In that the Sens will give him the security he wants( ie term/NMC)

I expect he and Andy will the first guys re-upped.

This was a good blog though. There is some method to the madness.

This was a good blog though. There is some method to the madness.
- Cup 06

I have a hard time believing that there is any acceptable justification for his decision to bench wiercioch for half the season

I have a hard time believing that there is any acceptable justification for his decision to bench wiercioch for half the season
- sensarmy_11

His name costs way to much to print on the programs.

His name costs way to much to print on the programs.
- david22

probably the reason zibby was sent down earlier too

Too long...

5 Max.
- OtownSens

Ryan would be offered 7 years by half the teams in the league. Especially Philly & Jersey. Both Eugene & Murray knew what they had to do this summer when the aquired Bobby. Give him $$$ & term.

I mean look what David Clarkson got in terms of $$$ & term.

probably the reason zibby was sent down earlier too
- sensarmy_11

maybe they should eliminate the names and just go with Player #4, Player #65, etc. .....

maybe they should eliminate the names and just go with Player #4, Player #65, etc. .....
- GadesnSens

smart, do what the yankees do....no names, just numbers. maybe then, the sens would be worth billiions, just like the yankees.

8 years 6.5 per for ryan ,5 years 5.2 for macarther

Bryan Murray made a BS move by undercutting Maclean and talkig about his future while saying in he same sentence he has no idea what is happening to his team. Murray should of taken responsibility right here and then and said he is going to take the offseason and twerk the team to make it bigger, faster and more poised.

Murray's great and never taking responsibility:
-Alfie leaves - blame the agent
- team falls apart - blame Emery even thou you signed Gerber and he sucks
- hire a bunch of unqualified coaches - I have no idea what went wrong
- team falls apart this season - blame the coach

How about Murray shows some leadership, in 1 calendar year Alfie has left, the team collapsed, Kalrsson doesn't speak to the press or the fans, Spezza is in trade rumours 4 months into his Captaincy

Where's the leadership from the GM? I cant see Holland, Chirelli or any successful GM having so many missteps in 1 season and never take responsibility
- tuna99

What can BM do??? ,he has to deal with EM .Give ottawa Detroit ,s ownership group and see what would happen.As of right now do you not think Holland has made some errors,ie ;signing Weiss to a huge FA deal and including a NMC .

Think BM has that kind of leeway??,he has a nutbar owner that will alledgely, drunk dial players like alfie and tell them what they are worth .Then sit in the Barbado,s and watch BM try to deal with the mess he created

i'm as sure as possible, without actually speaking to ryan himself, that ANY deal he signs will be either 8 years (with ottawa) or 7 years (with a new team). this is gonna be his "big money deal" and he's gonna want max term for as much $$ as possible.
- sensarmy_11

You're probably right...

I just hate those 7/8 yr deals, after 5 years on most players start to lack that urgency and drive they have in the first bit of their contract. I already get the feeling Ryan lacks motivation, or should I say, intentisty..

Not today, but I'll have some stuff seasons end. The conspiracy stuff is a little much by both Travis and posters but hey I guess that's what this site is all about.


Some good stuff and some..... Interesting conclusions.
- Cup 06

TBH ,we have all pretty much had our say on what we believe has happened to this team .Its been a trainwreck from the offseason until now.So you cant fault us fans for being a little ticked off.We want to know how far is ownership willing to go, to make this better.

EM owns the team ,and is our overall leader,time for him to lead