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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:15 PM ET
Th only logic I can think of is that hockey is a form of entertainment, as are all sports. Since the majority of people that will be attending the draft will be Flyers' fans, it would be very entertaining and dramatic for their favorite team to make a big splash in front of them.

Now, from a logical standpoint of creating a successful team, location would not matter.

- jmatchett383


The Flyers can find plenty of ways to entertain the fans without it impacting their decision making at the draft.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:16 PM ET
we will. it's just my sensible hat speaking. they've done plenty of dumb stuff before, so it's always possible, and i'm not saying that if they made a big move it would be dumb.
- hammarby31

if morin gets moved i will erupt
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 5:16 PM ET
Th only logic I can think of is that hockey is a form of entertainment, as are all sports. Since the majority of people that will be attending the draft will be Flyers' fans, it would be very entertaining and dramatic for their favorite team to make a big splash in front of them.

Now, from a logical standpoint of creating a successful team, location would not matter.

- jmatchett383



Do you think Homer has the stones to pull an Uncle Lou and trade their pick away on the draft floor? I think that is the likelier scenario.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:17 PM ET
Well I'm unaware of his issues, but his numbers are impressive, despite his size. However, I'm not opposed to having a high-scoring defenseman in our system granted he's not a net negative.
- jmatchett383

He was suspended once this season for the anti slur/bullying code of conduct and it got so out of hand that when it happened in practice his team jumped the league and suspended him themselves.

I'm guessing he's not so good in the room ya know.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:17 PM ET
Do you think Homer has the stones to pull an Uncle Lou and trade the pick on the draft floor? I think that is the likelier scenario.
- Tomahawk


He absolutely could, but it would have nothing to do with being in Philadelphia.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:17 PM ET
The Flyers can find plenty of ways to entertain the fans without it impacting their decision making at the draft.
- MJL

They have Shawny... I'm not sure you can prove that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:18 PM ET
The Flyers can find plenty of ways to entertain the fans without it impacting their decision making at the draft.
- MJL


I know. But you asked for a logical reason. And, while there are other ways, one way would be to make the trade. I'm not saying they should just for the sake of it, but just giving you a reason, regardless of whether or not it's smart for the good of the team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:19 PM ET
He was suspended once this season for the anti slur/bullying code of conduct and it got so out of hand that when it happened in practice his team jumped the league and suspended him themselves.

I'm guessing he's not so good in the room ya know.

- mayorofangrytown


Has he thrown his stick into the crowd yet?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
I know. But you asked for a logical reason. And, while there are other ways, one way would be to make the trade. I'm not saying they should just for the sake of it, but just giving you a reason, regardless of whether or not it's smart for the good of the team.
- jmatchett383


Yea, and no offense, but I still don't see a logical reason. In my opinion the Draft being in Philly will have zero impact on what the Flyers do on Draft day.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 2 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hmm I must be getting him confused with someone else.

What's the book on him? Kind of like a Tom Wilson (before this year)? Goes through people but has nice hands and a good offensive game?

- Giroux_Is_God


Elite Prospects
Kempe is a strong, bullish forward that has size, strength and a work ethic to match. He can be tenacious on the forecheck and never misses finishing a check. He has a heavy shot and isn't shy to drive towards the net.


Our very own Adam French
Much like Teuvo Teräväinen in 2012, Kempe started the year in the third round being an overlooked player with one of the youngest birthdays in the draft (September 13). Similarly he has now forced his way up and up the list and sits often in the 10-20 range with an U18 tournament coming up that could potentially push him all the way to near the top-5…though that was what people expected for Teräväinen near draft day and he still went 18th. Kempe brings a great mix of size and strength and unlike many Swedes with size, he’s known to use it and play a more North American game. This isn’t to say he will become Lucic, but his board work and physical play is reminiscent of Franzen when he is in the zone and not being a lazy poope. His play for MODO in the Elitserien has been a major surprise, as the youngest player in the league he finished the year with a solid 11 points in 45 games. He still needs a lot of development, but depending on where he goes could be a real steal.


The most interesting prospect in the draft and the guy people argue over constantly as to who he is, why he’s fluctuated from the 2nd to top-10 potential every other month and where he will ultimately end up. I think as the year goes on he will climb, probably past 20, but right now this would be a really nice place to take the risk with him. Being born 3 days from the 2015 cut-off date, Kempe is a Swede with a serious attitude and plays a North American power forward game (6’2 187lbs) and loves to hit. For such a young guy he’s done extremely well and it’s interesting to wonder how good he’ll be when he’s bulked up and able to use his power moves more effectively against older and bigger players. He loves to shoot the puck and crash the net. I think the Canucks going forward could use a guy like him as they continue to plan the transition their group will need in the coming years.


Around late January Frenchie had Kempe going at 20 to the Canucks (Oh how they have fallen :lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
Yea, and no offense, but I still don't see a logical reason. In my opinion the Draft being in Philly will have zero impact on what the Flyers do on Draft day.
- MJL


Again, it's logical from an entertainment standpoint only. Logic dictates that the Flyers, as a form of entertainment, would do best to entertain their fans. While they have many options to choose from, a blockbuster trade in front of those fans would be one way to do it.

Again, from a standpoint of making the team better, the location has no bearing. From a "Hey, let's give these guys something exciting," it makes little, but some, sense.

Whatever, (frank) it, I'm not doing this today.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Apr 2 @ 5:27 PM ET
Also more Kempe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJp3pw2OHI
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
Again, it's logical from an entertainment standpoint only. Logic dictates that the Flyers, as a form of entertainment, would do best to entertain their fans. While they have many options to choose from, a blockbuster trade in front of those fans would be one way to do it.

Again, from a standpoint of making the team better, the location has no bearing. From a "Hey, let's give these guys something exciting," it makes little, but some, sense.

- jmatchett383


I guess I'll state this as matter of fact as I can. I don't think it is logical from an entertainment standpoint. Not at all. I see it as illogical to let entertaining the fans factor into a draft strategy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:29 PM ET
I guess I'll state this as matter of fact as I can. I don't think it is logical from an entertainment standpoint. Not at all. I see as illogical to let entertaining the fans factor into a draft strategy.
- MJL


Well I'm tickled pink for you.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:30 PM ET
Has he thrown his stick into the crowd yet?
- jmatchett383

Yes, yes he did.

Edit: And a wheel chair, but it WAS wheel chair give away night in Sarnia.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:33 PM ET
Again, it's logical from an entertainment standpoint only. Logic dictates that the Flyers, as a form of entertainment, would do best to entertain their fans. While they have many options to choose from, a blockbuster trade in front of those fans would be one way to do it.

Again, from a standpoint of making the team better, the location has no bearing. From a "Hey, let's give these guys something exciting," it makes little, but some, sense.

Whatever, (frank) it, I'm not doing this today.

- jmatchett383

Your boots are filled with mud. Might as well wade in man.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
Yes, yes he did.

Edit: And a wheel chair, but it WAS wheel chair give away night in Sarnia.

- mayorofangrytown


Well in that case, he should be given a medal based on distance.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
Your boots are filled with mud. Might as well wade in man.
- mayorofangrytown


I'm just not beat for the carousel of "I'm right" anymore.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:37 PM ET
Were talking draft. You're just in time
- PhillySportsGuy


What do you need to know?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
If we got Dalcolle I'd be the fat dancing guy. It's not going to happen but I'm biased having seen him play more than any other draft eligible player.
- mayorofangrytown


I'd be that with Sam Bennett or Nikolaj Ehlers
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:38 PM ET
Well I'm unaware of his issues, but his numbers are impressive, despite his size. However, I'm not opposed to having a high-scoring defenseman in our system granted he's not a net negative.
- jmatchett383


Abuse of a ref & something about abusing/bullying a team mate that resulted in a total of 13 games worth of suspensions
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
I'm just not beat for the carousel of "I'm right" anymore.
- jmatchett383

no matter the logic involved or the calculations presented, nothing is logical if you don't believe in math.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
if morin gets moved i will erupt
- Crimsoninja


You wouldn't be alone, he's got plenty to work on but I liked how he's progressed this year with Rimouski
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 5:40 PM ET
Abuse of a ref & something about abusing/bullying a team mate that resulted in a total of 13 games worth of suspensions
- ob18

I read somewhere that it was a nasty string of slurs during a practice.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
I read somewhere that it was a nasty string of slurs during a practice.
- mayorofangrytown


Haven't heard exactly what it is even with asking around, I just know they felt it was so bad and weren't sure how to handle it they asked the league to guide them on it.
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