Relative to the rest of the Oilers defencemen? Yeah, he does alright then.

Whoever is paired with Petry is consistently the guy I've seen Oiler fans call "a good defencemen" while poopting on Petry.

Then Belov/Ference/Whoever don't play with Petry and "MAN BELOV (frank)ING SUCKS WHO CARES IF WE RE-SIGN HIM!"
- DTF69

Belov was also a rookie this year FFS... I didnt think the expectations were high for him- but unfortunately the smaller ice was just too much of an adjustment for him... I would say he does possess a sweet shot from the point tho- just that he barely got to use it...

I feel like this is the reason MacT will sign him to a huge unwarranted contract. I think he's got huge potential, but he's 23 now. Time to progress big time. Doesn't help that he's playing 1/2 minutes when he's at best a #4 Dman right now
- TheNugeIsHuge

I would go the Montreal route- as if he fails- the loss isnt horrendous... and if he succeeds- big deal you pay him...

The faulk contract is pretty brutal, they are hoping on a wing and a prayer that it seems like a steal 2 seasons from now. Granted I have never been sold on the guy so to me hes just an average 2nd pairing guy, could be a top pairing guy one day if he reaches his full potential. 3 average seasons shouldnt lead to a pay day but the Canes are brutal at over paying
- DDM-Coga

Faulk is a stud. Easy to forget that he just turned 22

Petry and Schultz each get 3.25 for 3 and 2 years respectively. Fair enough?

I feel like this is the reason MacT will sign him to a huge unwarranted contract. I think he's got huge potential, but he's 23 now. Time to progress big time. Doesn't help that he's playing 1/2 minutes when he's at best a #4 Dman right now
- TheNugeIsHuge

If we're talking about Schultz's potential, we ought be talking about everyones. Hopefully MacT is smart enough to realize that if Schultz has big potential, Petry likely has just as big, and Nurse, Klefbom, Marincin and now possibly Ekblad arguably all have bigger.

I would go the Montreal route- as if he fails- the loss isnt horrendous... and if he succeeds- big deal you pay him...
- saskoil21

Schultz is a worse bet than Subban, too. The odds that he'll deserve a 5+M contract are slim. He may end up being a 2nd pairing guy that gets loads of PP time.

It's a real shame that Eakins (frank)ed the special teams. RNH n Schultz's statlines'd look less depressing as the PP is their greatest strength

Petry and Schultz each get 3.25 for 3 and 2 years respectively. Fair enough?
- Morris

That's what we'll all hope for but I'm guessing like around 3.5-4.25 for Petry and 4.25-5.5 for Schultz. Not saying it's what Schultz deserves but it's probably what he's getting

I feel like this is the reason MacT will sign him to a huge unwarranted contract. I think he's got huge potential, but he's 23 now. Time to progress big time. Doesn't help that he's playing 1/2 minutes when he's at best a #4 Dman right now
- TheNugeIsHuge

On a good team he'd be a #5 and that is the 5v5 minutes he should be playing and make up the rest of his time on special teams.

Shelter the absolute (frank) out of him since you're not making the playoffs. Most frustrating thing with coaches is "huh, we're 30 pts out of the playoffs but I'm still going to coach like we're on the bubble. Development be damned!"

Or when a team has a playoff spot locked up and does the same thing "We're locked into 3rd, but I'm gonna coach the last 15 games like we're about to fall out of 8th. All you kids I rip up for not being good enough are really going to have to prove your worth now at 8 minutes per game!"

Schultz is a worse bet than Subban, too. The odds that he'll deserve a 5+M contract are slim. He may end up being a 2nd pairing guy that gets loads of PP time.

It's a real shame that Eakins (frank)ed the special teams. RNH n Schultz's statlines'd look less depressing as the PP is their greatest strength
- TheNugeIsHuge

I have no idea what happened with the PP. We need a special teams coach.

Petry and Schultz each get 3.25 for 3 and 2 years respectively. Fair enough?
- Morris

That's a steal and a half for Petry and an overpayment for Jultz.

I have no idea what happened with the PP. We need a special teams coach.
- Morris

Maybe fire the assistants that have been around since MacT was behind the bench

Belov was also a rookie this year FFS... I didnt think the expectations were high for him- but unfortunately the smaller ice was just too much of an adjustment for him... I would say he does possess a sweet shot from the point tho- just that he barely got to use it...
- saskoil21

He is totally unable to get it away quickly enough. Another off-season of training should really help. If I were him I wouldn't worry so much about strength training as much as puck and situational things.

Dude could be so much better if he could just make puck decisions half a second earlier.

That's a steal and a half for Petry and an overpayment for Jultz.
- DTF69

I don't know the perception is about Petry, but I don't know that he's a tough re-sign. He will likely get more than that, you're right.

As far as Jultz goes, I think he's had a tough campaign, but you're going to be in tough to play a dman to lead your team in ice time and scoring two campaigns in a row as a 23 year old and not pay him a nice little salary bump.

Maybe fire the assistants that have been around since MacT was behind the bench
- DTF69

Agreed. This is one problem I'd chuck money at. Keep Eakins fine, but he needs some high-profile help. I assume he'll keep Acton.

The morning crew on 1260. + Rishaug was going on about it. He's dumb.
- DTF69

Thank god I don't listen to the radio anymore. I can barely handle everyone here!

I don't know the perception is about Petry, but I don't know that he's a tough re-sign. He will likely get more than that, you're right.

As far as Jultz goes, I think he's had a tough campaign, but you're going to be in tough to play a dman to lead your team in ice time and scoring two campaigns in a row as a 23 year old and not pay him a nice little salary bump.
- Morris

I'd give him a 2 year option at short of 3 mil a season.

If he wants term I don't go higher than 4.25 on 6 years and even that is stretching my tolerance way farther than I want.

Agreed. This is one problem I'd chuck money at. Keep Eakins fine, but he needs some high-profile help. I assume he'll keep Acton.
- Morris

Let Acton run something. Bring in another coach to run something on the bench. Everyone else sits in the (frank)ing press box. No god damn need for 5 coaches+trainers+med staff on the bench.

I'd give him a 2 year option at short of 3 mil a season.

If he wants term I don't go higher than 4.25 on 6 years and even that is stretching my tolerance way farther than I want.
- DTF69

Are you talking about Schultz or Petry here?

Frankly, I think both of them end up top 4 defenders. But we still do need to do a bit of cap tiptoeing if we want to improve the team's defense, depth, and be in a position to re-up Perron as a UFA in a few years.

Let Acton run something. Bring in another coach to run something on the bench. Everyone else sits in the (frank)ing press box. No god damn need for 5 coaches+trainers+med staff on the bench.
- DTF69

Maybe not as an assistant coach, but I'd like to see a Michael Peca or Marty Reasoner come in and do a faceoff intensive with some of our smaller centres. Neither of those guys were big but knew enough tricks of the trade to be good in the dot, and I'd say we're losing about 200 faceoffs more than we need to be.

Who cares if the rest of the league isn't doing it? This team needs a faceoff consultant. If that catches on it'd be a nice little post-career avenue for Manny Malhotra too.

Maybe if the Oilers are averse to 'firing' people, this is a good opp to move Buchberger or Steve Smith to the Barons. Todd Nelson is likely leaving to get an NHL gig after this season anyway.

Are you talking about Schultz or Petry here?

Frankly, I think both of them end up top 4 defenders. But we still do need to do a bit of cap tiptoeing if we want to improve the team's defense, depth, and be in a position to re-up Perron as a UFA in a few years.
- Morris

Jultz.

Petry I'd be willing to pony up as long as it stays this side of 5.5. He is real good.

Maybe not as an assistant coach, but I'd like to see a Michael Peca or Marty Reasoner come in and do a faceoff intensive with some of our smaller centres. Neither of those guys were big but knew enough tricks of the trade to be good in the dot, and I'd say we're losing about 200 faceoffs more than we need to be.

Who cares if the rest of the league isn't doing it? This team needs a faceoff consultant. If that catches on it'd be a nice little post-career avenue for Manny Malhotra too.

Maybe if the Oilers are averse to 'firing' people, this is a good opp to move Buchberger or Steve Smith to the Barons. Todd Nelson is likely leaving to get an NHL gig after this season anyway.
- Morris

I'd be willing to give Nelson a shot. Seems to run things smoothly in OKC

I'd be willing to give Nelson a shot. Seems to run things smoothly in OKC
- OilerFan16

Nelson was cheesed to be passed over for Eakins. We'd have to turf Eakins to try Nelson. And that makes little sense to me given that everyone's concerns with Eakins seem to be surrounding a lack of experience.

Jultz.

Petry I'd be willing to pony up as long as it stays this side of 5.5. He is real good.
- DTF69

When frigging around with Capgeek over and over again this year, I've slated in and around 8 million to get them both signed. I think we'll be in okay shape, in part because we've done a good job treating Petry as if he's not that good

When frigging around with Capgeek over and over again this year, I've slated in and around 8 million to get them both signed. I think we'll be in okay shape, in part because we've done a good job treating Petry as if he's not that good
- Morris

Depending on term, but if you gave out 2 four year deals at like a 4.75 and a 3.5 then they'll be alright.

Reminds me of a few years ago when Muckler (?) managed to get both Volchenkov and Phillips signed to a combined like 6 million dollar cap hit when they were both at the top of their games.