Who cares what the Flyers are doing wrong.... We have talented prospects come through Bridgeport and when they make it to the Island the style of play that got them drafted is no longer bing played.... I never said it was all on Dunham or whoever else has coached them, but since we have two goalies that were coached by the same man, performing the exact same bad habits, there is a pretty good chance the coach is a big factor in their failure.

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- XxNYIxX

When was Dunham hired

This was my point. I'm not saying the Isles cannot use more talent. Let a real coach come in with a real system and then you can tell which players can stay and which can go. Guys Like Poulin, Nilsson, and Donovan may or may not be the answer. I'd like someone more qualified that Cappy to help decide that.
- ses111

I'd like to have a goalie coach....at all...of any kind....either that, or trade these kids as part of a package, and get a goalie someone else already developed. The fact that fundamental mistakes are not corrected or learned from leads me to fully believe the story I heard that no one is teaching these kids anything. Either that, or one would have to believe they're both complete morons who aren't smart enough to learn anything- it has to be one or the other, right? If that's the case, then why bother? Just spend most of your cap dollars on one who is already good to go and be done with it.

Let's just get this right, it's not that the Isles wouldn't take back some of Vanak's salary, it's that they wouldn't take back any salary dumps in the trade and I'm happy they didn't take back some overpaid unneeded player with time left on their contract.

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- XxNYIxX

That's the key, right there- it'd be different if it was another expiring contract, but if I'm screwed anyway, I'd rather be screwed with Collberg than have a slightly better prospect and an albatross that I either have to find a spot for over the next three years or pay to go away (which includes a waste of cap space). Wang is probably tired of paying people who don't play for his team, and on that one, I can't say I blame him (even though most of it is his fault- you have to learn sometime).

When was Dunham hired
- Danformo

Sept 7 2007

That's the key, right there- it'd be different if it was another expiring contract, but if I'm screwed anyway, I'd rather be screwed with Collberg than have a slightly better prospect and an albatross that I either have to find a spot for over the next three years or pay to go away (which includes a waste of cap space). Wang is probably tired of paying people who don't play for his team, and on that one, I can't say I blame him (even though most of it is his fault- you have to learn sometime).
- dcb1

I think if Wang has proved any one thing it's that he doesn't learn. Same old shat.

When was Dunham hired
- Danformo

Shortly after he nearly destroyed our playoff chances in 06-07 until his legs "seized up" that one night and Dubie took over.

Shortly after he nearly destroyed our playoff chances in 06-07 until his legs "seized up" that one night and Dubie took over.
- UIF

Forgot about Nolan playing him constantly. Infuriating

Forgot about Nolan playing him constantly. Infuriating
- Cptmjl

I'm sure it was his amazing display of both skill and preparation (seizing up because he was dehydrated) that screamed to Snow, "Please hire this man as a goalie coach!"

I'm sure it was his amazing display of both skill and preparation (seizing up because he was dehydrated) that screamed to Snow, "Please hire this man as a goalie coach!"
- UIF

It was a puzzling move. Maybe it was just one former not so good back up doing another a favor? Who knows? It's times like these that fans hold people accountable for bad results. Unfortunately Snow holds nobody accountable including himself.

It was a puzzling move. Maybe it was just one former not so good back up doing another a favor? Who knows? It's times like these that fans hold people accountable for bad results. Unfortunately Snow holds nobody accountable including himself.
- Cptmjl

Pretty sure they were teammates at Maine. Not so puzzling.

It was a puzzling move. Maybe it was just one former not so good back up doing another a favor? Who knows? It's times like these that fans hold people accountable for bad results. Unfortunately Snow holds nobody accountable including himself.
- Cptmjl

He was probably still under contract and they figured they might as well pay him for doing something.

Pretty sure they were teammates at Maine. Not so puzzling.
- UIF

The fraternity needs to be broken up starting with Crapuano. Time to go crappy. Why do I feel hes not going anywhere?

He was probably still under contract and they figured they might as well pay him for doing something.
- PeteM

I believe he was now that you mention it.

The fraternity needs to be broken up starting with Crapuano. Time to go crappy. Why do I feel hes not going anywhere?
- Cptmjl

He is not going to anywhere. He has a year on his contract left. The Islanders will use the injuries as his excuse. He will suck next year and they will let him go half way through the season just to hire either SCott Pellirin, Doug Weight or Thompson. They will do decent and then be our coach for the next 5 years. See the circle of life on this team

He is not going to anywhere. He has a year on his contract left. The Islanders will use the injuries as his excuse. He will suck next year and they will let him go half way through the season just to hire either SCott Pellirin, Doug Weight or Thompson. They will do decent and then be our coach for the next 5 years. See the circle of life on this team
- kasperrko

Unfortunately this is a very real possibility with Snow as our GM. Could happen.

He is not going to anywhere. He has a year on his contract left. The Islanders will use the injuries as his excuse. He will suck next year and they will let him go half way through the season just to hire either SCott Pellirin, Doug Weight or Thompson. They will do decent and then be our coach for the next 5 years. See the circle of life on this team
- kasperrko

God this sounds so likely...

God this sounds so likely...
- keaner17

IT started with Gordon. It seems to be the Islanders MO lately. I really hope I am wrong. We really need a qualified coach in here. I agree the players have to take some responsibility but if the coach is not motivating or seems to care less like Jack does well then the team will react the same way. That is evident on the ice with this team

IT started with Gordon. It seems to be the Islanders MO lately. I really hope I am wrong. We really need a qualified coach in here. I agree the players have to take some responsibility but if the coach is not motivating or seems to care less like Jack does well then the team will react the same way. That is evident on the ice with this team
- kasperrko

I have heard it said that Charles does not want to pay two coaches simultaneously. And while it seems nearly universally assumed that Cappy will get fired, there's no way I could call it a slam dunk. For better or worse, Garth is the absolute antithesis of Milbury, to the point of being overly patient. So the least amount of expressed desire from Wang to keep Cappy through is term cold be enough to sway the vote.

I still think he'll be fired, but I put it more like 60/40 than a slam dunk.

God this sounds so likely...
- keaner17

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but I think this is one post from Kasperko that's not a gross exaggeration that could happen

I have heard it said that Charles does not want to pay two coaches simultaneously. And while it seems nearly universally assumed that Cappy will get fired, there's no way I could call it a slam dunk. For better or worse, Garth is the absolute antithesis of Milbury, to the point of being overly patient. So the least amount of expressed desire from Wang to keep Cappy through is term cold be enough to sway the vote.

I still think he'll be fired, but I put it more like 60/40 than a slam dunk.
- keaner17

Why does the blame somehow always get deflected off Garth? I find it beyond aggravating. I think Islander fans are just as bad as the club they root for when it comes to accountability. If that's truly the case(which i don't believe it doesn't follow his MO with other money matters)then why the fack do you sign an incompetent moron like Capuano to a two year contract? It's not like the rest of the league was chomping at the bit to get a hold of him

Why does the blame somehow always get deflected off Garth? I find it beyond aggravating. I think Islander fans are just as bad as the club they root for when it comes to accountability. If that's truly the case(which i don't believe it doesn't follow his MO with other money matters)then why the fack do you sign an incompetent moron like Capuano to a two year contract? It's not like the rest of the league was chomping at the bit to get a hold of him
- Cptmjl

It is actually Wang that should know that Cappy has no clue what he is doing. Without the green light Snow can not do anything. It is though up to Snow to tell Wang we need to get this clown out of here and get some one with knowledge of the sport

Oh where is that LetsGOIsles guy or girl. I have a bone to pick with him or her

Why does the blame somehow always get deflected off Garth? I find it beyond aggravating. I think Islander fans are just as bad as the club they root for when it comes to accountability. If that's truly the case(which i don't believe it doesn't follow his MO with other money matters)then why the fack do you sign an incompetent moron like Capuano to a two year contract? It's not like the rest of the league was chomping at the bit to get a hold of him
- Cptmjl

Sheesh, even when I'm being negative it's not negative ENOUGH for you!

I don't think it's necessarily deflecting blame but rather sharing it. Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him. Still, I think it was Strang who said at one point that the Isles wouldn't pay for more than one coach simultaneously, so I could see Wang not being thrilled with the idea of sending Cappy off, thus swaying Snow further in the direction of keeping him.

It's also well known that Cappy and Snow are good buddies, so I'm sure Snow will take the bullet this time around. Whether that saves Cappy or at least offers a hint of sympathy for his dismissal by Snow we'll see.

As for the two year contract. That's pretty routine. You rarely see a coach extended for one year after a interim term AND 1st contract.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but I think this is one post from Kasperko that's not a gross exaggeration that could happen
- Cptmjl

Sheesh, even when I'm being negative it's not negative ENOUGH for you!

I don't think it's necessarily deflecting blame but rather sharing it. Afterall, Snow was the one who originally hired and resigned Cappy so that's on him. Still, I think it was Strang who said at one point that the Isles wouldn't pay for more than one coach simultaneously, so I could see Wang not being thrilled with the idea of sending Cappy off, thus swaying Snow further in the direction of keeping him.

It's also well known that Cappy and Snow are good buddies, so I'm sure Snow will take the bullet this time around. Whether that saves Cappy or at least offers a hint of sympathy for his dismissal by Snow we'll see.

As for the two year contract. That's pretty routine. You rarely see a coach extended for one year after a interim term AND 1st contract.
- keaner17

Nah, it's not but I'd appreciate more of an effort in that area. My point being. If this were true(Wang not being willing to pay two coaches[which I do remember hearing too btw but still not sure if it's true?])than why does Snow sign him to a two year contract? Yeah we made it to the playoffs last season but anyone could see that had nothing to do with coaching. It almost seemed Capuano was trying to sabotage that from happening and once there make it as difficult as possible for the team(ex; Reasoner, ice time for amac, etc..). Is him being signed to a two year contract Wang's fault too? It is a completely moronic thing to do with Capuano. If Snow understood Wang's feelings on coach contracts(which if you knew we have to assume he did) then why handcuff the team to him for two seasons when he is so obviously an inept coach? Makes zero sense. Once again, Snow's fault.