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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
Ryan Miller, Ryan Callahan & Rick Nash


How about 3 underrated?

- Jsaquella

I agree with Ryan Miller for sure.

Remember Nash's play on Richards line during the 2010 Olympics? Probably the best I've ever seen Nash play.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Underrated:

Taylor Hall

Martin Hanzal

Tomas Plekanec

- AllInForFlyers


I don't think many underrate Hall. But I agree with the other 2 100%
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Actually I thought of MOAT first. But I've met him in person - and that explains why. He's got a seriously cute kid!

- FlyersGrace


The kid was cuter before the growth spurt. Then again, so was MOAT.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't think many underrate Hall. But I agree with the other 2 100%
- Jsaquella

Hall is a great young player. If he can level out with consistency and remain healthy he'd skyrocket in value.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
PhillySportsGuy
TangentMan
Jsaq
MJL
MOAT
BiggE
FlySkippy
2Real
Schenn2somethingorother

Wait! I only get 3?


You're all players in my book.

EDIT: if you are left off this list it prolly means I actually like you.

- FlyersGrace


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
I think he's a great player, but consensus seems to be that he's somewhere in the Pronger/Potvin/Robinson stratosphere, hence the overrated bit. By the end of this decade, I don't think he will even be top-10 with all the crazy-good kids in or on their way into the league.
- Tomahawk


I never thought of him in that sense, and I'm probably the biggest fan of his in the area. He's not a first-ballot HOFer, because, well, he's not pronger/Potvin/Robinson. He's arguably the most complete defenseman in the game, and is the closest thing to Pronger et. al. that there is. Similarly, Crosby is the closest thing there is to Gretzky, but that doesn't mean they're the same player; just, for the game at this time, he fits the same bill.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
I think he's a great player, but consensus seems to be that he's somewhere in the Pronger/Potvin/Robinson stratosphere, hence the overrated bit. By the end of this decade, I don't think he will even be top-10 with all the crazy-good kids in or on their way into the league.
- Tomahawk



I agree, I'm not going to put him in that category. But the reality is, has he ever played a top team? Put him in Flyers O & B, and we'll see what a difference he would make here.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
I don't think many underrate Hall. But I agree with the other 2 100%
- Jsaquella



I'd put Patrik Elias into that conversation too... quietest creep up to 1000 pts in NHL history, must be.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
Considering I hear a lot of folks that think Phaneuf sucks, not sure I'd say he's overrated, at least anymore. Certainly could have been as a Flame
- Jsaquella


Yeah, his stock has dropped quite a bit. However, he's getting paid like a top dog, but that's more on Toronto than him.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
Underrated:

1. Josh Harding (when he plays)
2. Reilly Smith
3. Kari Lehtonen

I'd throw Jaden Schwartz in there too
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
PhillySportsGuy
TangentMan
Jsaq
MJL
MOAT
BiggE
FlySkippy
2Real
Schenn2somethingorother

Wait! I only get 3?


You're all players in my book.

EDIT: if you are left off this list it prolly means I actually like you.

- FlyersGrace

wooo
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
Everyone name your top 3 most overrated current players. Don't use guys who are just overrated on this site like Yandle or Byfuglien unless you feel they are top 3.
- PhillySportsGuy


Crosby
Weber
Stamkos

Now seriously though... They are some of the best players in hockey, but people put them so high on a pedalstood, i think people think of them as Gretzky like....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'd put Patrik Elias into that conversation too... quietest creep up to 1000 pts in NHL history, must be.
- Tomahawk


Retired, but he reminds me of Peter Bondra? Hung around just long enough to reach 500 goals, and no one noticed.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
Underrated:

1. Josh Harding (when he plays)
2. Reilly Smith
3. Kari Lehtonen

- Streit2ThePoint


OHHHH....Reilly Smith's a good one. Had no idea that guy was that good when he was coming up in Dallas. He has been really, really good for Boston
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'd put Patrik Elias into that conversation too... quietest creep up to 1000 pts in NHL history, must be.
- Tomahawk

That's the big one I was thinking of
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
I don't care.

"I don't like liberals, they're evil!!!"

"I don't like conservatives, they're evil!"

"Shut up!"

"No, YOU shut up!"

Has no place on here. Not to pick on any one poster because I'm not, but it's like 2 educated 5-year-olds arguing penis size.

- jmatchett383


I havent seen that yet.

I'm now in the middle of a police standoff with two suspects. Of course blocking my path off the job to go home. Damn illegals!

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'd put Patrik Elias into that conversation too... quietest creep up to 1000 pts in NHL history, must be.
- Tomahawk


Elias would be stuck on 500 if he didn't play the Flyers so often.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
pedalstool
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
Underrated:

1. Josh Harding (when he plays)
2. Reilly Smith
3. Kari Lehtonen

I'd throw Jaden Schwartz in there too

- Streit2ThePoint


Schwartz keeps playing like he has, and that will change
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
I don't think many underrate Hall. But I agree with the other 2 100%
- Jsaquella


I said Hall because I think if somebody got that kid out of that horrible situation and into a positive atmosphere, he'd put up 50 goals and look dominant in doing so

It's tragic, what's going on up in Edmonton
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
OHHHH....Reilly Smith's a good one. Had no idea that guy was that good when he was coming up in Dallas. He has been really, really good for Boston
- AllInForFlyers


He really has. Boston is pretty deep at forward aren't they?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
Crosby
Weber
Stamkos

Now seriously though... They are some of the best players in hockey, but people put them so high on a pedalstood, i think people think of them as Gretzky like....

- SchennBros


But they are the closest to those legendary players that there currently are. that's like saying Phil Esposito was overrated because he was compared to Richard. People in the 80s probably said Gretzky was overrated because he didn't play like Howe did.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
I still don't think David Krejci gets enough love.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
I still don't think David Krejci gets enough love.
- PhillySportsGuy


That's between him, his wife, and Colin Campbell.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
1. Alex Ovechkin
2. Ryan Callahan
3. Dion Phaneuf

- Streit2ThePoint


I know Ovechkin has some shortcomings defensively and such, but how could you have a guy as # 1 overrated that has 417 career goals at the age of 28?
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