prock
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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A team in need of a class act play maker for their top noth sniper can do wonders. Think of all those really good team that are missing just that piece to be a notch better than all other teams. - SENSpatriot
But how many teams could handle his albatross contract? |
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uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Excuseville, FL Joined: 06.29.2011
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spezza will get at least as much as kesler. both same age, similar injury history. kesler better defensively, spezza better offensively.
kesler has 2 years lect on his deal, so not exactly a long term acquisition either - sensarmy_11
Does Spezza have a NTC? If not it could be argued the return could be greater simply in the fact the potential for teams to bid would be greater
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Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB Joined: 01.23.2013
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Why the hell would anyone trade a top pairing dman for a second rate oft-injured declining guy like Spezza?
Spezza and a first maybe? But do you do that if you're the Sens? Their next first round pick could land Connor McDavid. - prock
McDavid will end up in Buffalo, NYI, Florida , Edmonton or Nashville.. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Does Spezza have a NTC? If not it could be argued the return could be greater simply in the fact the potential for teams to bid would be greater - uf1910
Kesler isn't overpaid though. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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McDavid will end up in Buffalo, NYI, Florida , Edmonton or Nashville.. - Erik6Karlsson5
Meh, many things went right for the Senators this year, and they're still well out of the playoffs. Karlsson, Spezza, or Ryan get injured, and the Sens are fit in quite well with that group. |
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But how many teams could handle his albatross contract? - prock
i thought we were talking about spezza, not clarkson or phaneuf.
top line center with 7 mil cap hit and 4 mil actual money...........SO awful
like i said, predictability of stupidity |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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i thought we were talking about spezza, not clarkson or phaneuf.
top line center with 7 mil cap hit and 4 mil actual money...........SO awful
like i said, predictability of stupidity - sensarmy_11
6th highest cap hit of any centre in the league. He's way overpaid.
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But how many teams could handle his albatross contract? - prock
Cap wise it's $7M..acceptable! Salary wise...supercheap:
20142015 : $4M
Point per game guy with leadership and a good team mate? |
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6th highest cap hit of any centre in the league. He's way overpaid. - prock
do you understand the difference between cap hit and actual salary? he had a front loaded deal.
please see the quote i've already mentioned twice |
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uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Excuseville, FL Joined: 06.29.2011
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Kesler isn't overpaid though. - prock
With 1 season left on his deal I hardly think his contract will be the main hurdle for the acquiring team. If comparing Kesler/Spezza returns, if a team can trade for 1 they are most likely able to acquire the other.
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Location: Winnipeg Joined: 05.25.2012
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Did you know there isn't a single defenseman in the entire NHL that has more goals scored against him while even strength than Erik Karlsson? Worse than Byfuglien, worse than Andrew McDonald. The absolute worst in the entire NHL. - prock
Actually, I didn't know that... Still don't want Buff back on our blueline though |
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6th highest cap hit of any centre in the league. He's way overpaid. - prock
Would you pay $7M for the beating he gave you this week? YES you would. Now think that he is half price!
OK discussion over |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Cap wise it's $7M..acceptable! Salary wise...supercheap:
20142015 : $4M
Point per game guy with leadership and a good team mate? - SENSpatriot
Where can we find one of those? |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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do you understand the difference between cap hit and actual salary? he had a front loaded deal.
please see the quote i've already mentioned twice - sensarmy_11
So you think a basement team is going to trade for a rental? Because it's only basement teams like Florida, Columbus, and Ottawa that can't spend to the cap that care more about actual salary. |
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Where can we find one of those? - prock
start by looking elsewhere other than your little world 'Nashville' and you will find guys like that |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Actually, I didn't know that... Still don't want Buff back on our blueline though - JETSWIN
Embarassing for Karlsson, that's for sure. |
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bjm1717
New York Islanders |
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Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky! Joined: 08.18.2011
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You can always count on me to drop some truth on the matter. - prock
How does one "drop some truth"? |
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start by looking elsewhere other than your little world 'Nashville' and you will find guys like that - SENSpatriot
he's a leaf troll |
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Jordo
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON Joined: 06.27.2007
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Meh, many things went right for the Senators this year, and they're still well out of the playoffs. Karlsson, Spezza, or Ryan get injured, and the Sens are fit in quite well with that group. - prock
The Sens lost their heart and soul at the start of this season. Explain how things have "went right" for them this year??
Your hate for the Sens is hilarious, and it clouds your objective judgement.
Spezz is a point per game player over a LONG sample size. There's only a select few that can say that.
I'm not saying he's in the top 5, or even the top 10 in the league- but saying he's tremendously overpaid at 7mil (4mil actual $) is hilarious.
That's going rate for a #1 Centre.. But then again, what do you know about a #1 C, you haven't had one since Sundin left. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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start by looking elsewhere other than your little world 'Nashville' and you will find guys like that - SENSpatriot
Okay, well I can see two ppg centres in PIT, one in Tampa, one in Philly, Anaheim, New York, Dallas.
I don't think any of those will be moved though.
And there is really only a couple of those that fit the rest of your description. |
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So you think a basement team is going to trade for a rental? Because it's only basement teams like Florida, Columbus, and Ottawa that can't spend to the cap that care more about actual salary. - prock
yeah, i'm sure contenders HATE saving money on top line centers. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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The Sens lost their heart and soul at the start of this season. Explain how things have "went right" for them this year??
Your hate for the Sens is hilarious, and it clouds your objective judgement.
Spezz is a point per game player over a LONG sample size. There's only a select few that can say that.
I'm not saying he's in the top 5, or even the top 10 in the league- but saying he's tremendously overpaid at 7mil (4mil actual $) is hilarious.
That's going rate for a #1 Centre.. But then again, what do you know about a #1 C, you haven't had one since Sundin left. - Jordo
As I said, that's the 6th highest cap hit of all centres. As you acknowledge, he's nowhere near top 6 in the league.
How can that be going rate?
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The Sens lost their heart and soul at the start of this season. Explain how things have "went right" for them this year??
Your hate for the Sens is hilarious, and it clouds your objective judgement.
Spezz is a point per game player over a LONG sample size. There's only a select few that can say that.
I'm not saying he's in the top 5, or even the top 10 in the league- but saying he's tremendously overpaid at 7mil (4mil actual $) is hilarious.
That's going rate for a #1 Centre.. But then again, what do you know about a #1 C, you haven't had one since Sundin left. - Jordo
he has no objective judgement. his hate just enhances his stupidity |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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yeah, i'm sure contenders HATE saving money on top line centers. - sensarmy_11
They care about cap hit while they're trying to contend. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Cap wise it's $7M..acceptable! Salary wise...supercheap:
20142015 : $4M
Point per game guy with leadership and a good team mate? - SENSpatriot
but isnt that the ideal deal that EM loves to have right now, saves him money |
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