DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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1. Leino - SabreNation
I cant wait for the Leino sweeps after Ek says he is one of his favorites and was a pleasure to follow him in Philly. |
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Buff for Spezza - Muskwa
ottawa needs an all aroud guy to play with karlsson......buff is probably the worst dman in the league when it comes to playing defense. plus, he's too old.
spezza wont get moved unless a 24-27 year old, top pairing dman is coming back to play with karlsson |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I cant wait for the Leino sweeps after Ek says he is one of his favorites and was a pleasure to follow him in Philly. - DDM-Coga
Being on Briere's line(that dude was awesome in the playoffs) in the playoffs basically made him a fortune. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Being on Briere's line(that dude was awesome in the playoffs) in the playoffs basically made him a fortune. - Nucker101
makes Burrows look like he is a bargain with his 2 goals last night.
Is Burrows going ot be bought out or traded after this season he has had |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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ottawa needs an all aroud guy to play with karlsson......buff is probably the worst dman in the league when it comes to playing defense. plus, he's too old.
spezza wont get moved unless a 24-27 year old, top pairing dman is coming back to play with karlsson - sensarmy_11
I don't believe a deal like that is out there though. How any teams are even willing to move 24-27 year old top pairing defensemen with an all-around game?
You'll have to settle for someone older(doesn't have to be a Spezza deal) or someone who has that upside but hasn't reached it yet. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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makes Burrows look like he is a bargain with his 2 goals last night. - DDM-Coga
Burrows hasn't lost a step IMO, just a brutal year with injuries and luck. Most of us already though that 4.5 as a cap hit was a bit high for him coming into this season, but he'll still be a quality top 9 player when his luck evens out. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Burrows hasn't lost a step IMO, just a brutal year with injuries and luck. Most of us already though that 4.5 as a cap hit was a bit high for him coming into this season, but he'll still be a quality top 9 player when his luck evens out. - Nucker101
yeah didnt think he is playing bad hockey just as snake bitten as a guy can get with a really weird season for you guys. But have a feeling he might be a scapegoat by moving him in an attempt to "improve this hockey team" cliche qoutes you hear from GMs trying to redirect heat off of themselves |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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ottawa needs an all aroud guy to play with karlsson......buff is probably the worst dman in the league when it comes to playing defense. - sensarmy_11
Don't be silly, Buff is the second worse guy in the league at playing D. Karlsson is the worst. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Don't be silly, Buff is the second worse guy in the league at playing D. Karlsson is the worst. - prock
Wasn't gonna say anything, but I saw this coming. |
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JETSWIN
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Location: Winnipeg Joined: 05.25.2012
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ottawa needs an all aroud guy to play with karlsson......buff is probably the worst dman in the league when it comes to playing defense. plus, he's too old.
spezza wont get moved unless a 24-27 year old, top pairing dman is coming back to play with karlsson - sensarmy_11
That's a pretty big ask for a guy who has problems lasting an entire season and is a pending UFA the next season. Good luck with that one. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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ottawa needs an all aroud guy to play with karlsson......buff is probably the worst dman in the league when it comes to playing defense. plus, he's too old.
spezza wont get moved unless a 24-27 year old, top pairing dman is coming back to play with karlsson - sensarmy_11
yeah you wont be getting a trade like that, based on his age, health, and pending UFA, you would most likely see packaged deals of players, prospect and picks.
No one is going to toss you a Top pairding dman going into their prime unless you add more than just Spezza as further incentive. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Wasn't gonna say anything, but I saw this coming. - Nucker101
You can always count on me to drop some truth on the matter. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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yeah you wont be getting a trade like that, based on his age, health, and pending UFA, you would most likely see packaged deals of players, prospect and picks.
No one is going to toss you a Top pairding dman going into their prime unless you add more than just Spezza as further incentive. - DDM-Coga
Why the hell would anyone trade a top pairing dman for a second rate oft-injured declining guy like Spezza?
Spezza and a first maybe? But do you do that if you're the Sens? Their next first round pick could land Connor McDavid. |
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Wasn't gonna say anything, but I saw this coming. - Nucker101
every time prock posts i'm reminded of a line from the movie snatch:
never underestimate the predictability of stupidity |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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every time prock posts i'm reminded of a line from the movie snatch:
never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - sensarmy_11
Stupidity is arguing that Karlsson isn't abysmal defensively. He is. Junk.
Elite offensively, admittedly. AHL caliber in his own end. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Why the hell would anyone trade a top pairing dman for a second rate oft-injured declining guy like Spezza?
Spezza and a first maybe? But do you do that if you're the Sens? Their next first round pick could land Connor McDavid. - prock
Realistic return on Spezza is going to be a Top 6 Forwad, a decent prospect, and a high draft pick. Realistically he will be acting as a rental going into next season, and thats pretty typical top tier rental return.
Unless he is extended his value hovers around that return |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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That's a pretty big ask for a guy who has problems lasting an entire season and is a pending UFA the next season. Good luck with that one. - JETSWIN
Did you know there isn't a single defenseman in the entire NHL that has more goals scored against him while even strength than Erik Karlsson? Worse than Byfuglien, worse than Andrew McDonald. The absolute worst in the entire NHL. |
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yeah you wont be getting a trade like that, based on his age, health, and pending UFA, you would most likely see packaged deals of players, prospect and picks.
No one is going to toss you a Top pairding dman going into their prime unless you add more than just Spezza as further incentive. - DDM-Coga
maybe that came out wrong......wasnt referring to #1 guys like doughty, keith, weber, etc.
but a younger guy, who's a good number 2........bogosian type guy
if not, then a younger guy with the potential, plus a pick. |
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Stupidity is arguing that Karlsson isn't abysmal defensively. He is. Junk.
Elite offensively, admittedly. AHL caliber in his own end. - prock
your obsession is starting to border on insanity. you need professional help |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Realistic return on Spezza is going to be a Top 6 Forwad, a decent prospect, and a high draft pick. Realistically he will be acting as a rental going into next season, and thats pretty typical top tier rental return.
Unless he is extended his value hovers around that return - DDM-Coga
Depends on the market, look at what Vanek got this year as a rental and and he's a top 30 goal scorer in the league. Spezza being a center likely increases his value though. But if it's a buyer's market again next year then the prices won't be that high(which is could be with a few teams likely tanking for McDavid/Eichel). |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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maybe that came out wrong......wasnt referring to #1 guys like doughty, keith, weber, etc.
but a younger guy, who's a good number 2........bogosian type guy
if not, then a younger guy with the potential, plus a pick. - sensarmy_11
Bogosian sure I can see that, maybe guys like Edler, Jack Johnson, maybe even Brian Campbell or Yandle.
But It would be a bigger deal than swapping 1 for 1, multiple players and picks to balance it all out |
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Depends on the market, look at what Vanek got this year as a rental and and he's a top 30 goal scorer in the league. Spezza being a center likely increases his value though. But if it's a buyer's market again next year then the prices won't be that high(which is could be with a few teams likely tanking for McDavid/Eichel). - Nucker101
spezza will get at least as much as kesler. both same age, similar injury history. kesler better defensively, spezza better offensively.
kesler has 2 years lect on his deal, so not exactly a long term acquisition either |
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Bogosian sure I can see that, maybe guys like Edler, Jack Johnson, maybe even Brian Campbell or Yandle.
But It would be a bigger deal than swapping 1 for 1, multiple players and picks to balance it all out - DDM-Coga
i dont think any deal involving spezza would be 1 for 1
and jack johnson that guy is painfully overrated |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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maybe that came out wrong......wasnt referring to #1 guys like doughty, keith, weber, etc.
but a younger guy, who's a good number 2........bogosian type guy
if not, then a younger guy with the potential, plus a pick. - sensarmy_11
Getting Bogosian would still cost more overtop of Spezza. |
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yeah you wont be getting a trade like that, based on his age, health, and pending UFA, you would most likely see packaged deals of players, prospect and picks.
No one is going to toss you a Top pairding dman going into their prime unless you add more than just Spezza as further incentive. - DDM-Coga
A team in need of a class act play maker for their top noth sniper can do wonders. Think of all those really good team that are missing just that piece to be a notch better than all other teams. |
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