Travis Yost: A Fun Graph

Is the pick you guys sent to Anaheim top 10 protected?

Hey Travis, I think we're all pretty confused by Maclean's player deployment and I can't help but fall out of my honeymoon phase with him as a coach this year. In his first year and a half, I thought he was the best thing to happen to Ottawa besides Karlsson but I guess a lot of the player usage decisions were made for him last year. I don't doubt he's still a very capable NHL coach but wondering what your opinion on him is.

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Is the pick you guys sent to Anaheim top 10 protected?
- LeafsFan64

Don't think so. And the worst part is that I feel Bobby Ryan is now fed up with MacLean changing his linemates every game that he won't even think a second about re-signing in Ottawa.

EDIT: I hope Murray tried to re-sign him this Summer and if Bobby Ryan declines or asks for 8M+, Murray doesn't hesitate to trade him before the season starts. He would be worth more at that time than at the trade deadline.

Its almost unbelievable how apt you are at trying to explain rival teams successes and Ottawas failures with graphs that you feel suggest favorable and unfavorable bounces.

Perhaps the team just sucks?

Its almost unbelievable how apt you are at trying to explain rival teams successes and Ottawas failures with graphs that you feel suggest favorable and unfavorable bounces.

Perhaps the team just sucks?
- prock

I've never seen you post a comment in this thread that isn't for the purpose of trolling... It's kinda sad

Don't think so. And the worst part is that I feel Bobby Ryan is now fed up with MacLean changing his linemates every game that he won't even think a second about re-signing in Ottawa.

EDIT: I hope Murray tried to re-sign him this Summer and if Bobby Ryan declines or asks for 8M+, Murray doesn't hesitate to trade him before the season starts. He would be worth more at that time than at the trade deadline.
- LCDavid4

Yeah it's a hard situation, if he's not resigning though you have to try and get assets

I still think the Sens could really turn a corner in the next 3 games:

Jets, Preds, Habs

All winnable opponents

Don't think so. And the worst part is that I feel Bobby Ryan is now fed up with MacLean changing his linemates every game that he won't even think a second about re-signing in Ottawa.

EDIT: I hope Murray tried to re-sign him this Summer and if Bobby Ryan declines or asks for 8M+, Murray doesn't hesitate to trade him before the season starts. He would be worth more at that time than at the trade deadline.
- LCDavid4

Ryan, Spezza, Anderson, all gone this summer. Bring on the kids!

I've never seen you post a comment in this thread that isn't for the purpose of trolling... It's kinda sad
- LeafsFan64

What I say is true. Last year any wins were justified because CORSI says so. Now losing is just unfavorable bounces explained by a swing in shooting percentage and sv%. Yet the opposite was not true when craig Anderson had a sv% way out of his normal range. Shouldn't that be good luck? And really, should it surprise anyone the likes of Turris, Macarthur, and michalek don't bury the puck as much as others? Why do you think the Leafs got rid of a guy luke MacArthur? Works hard, handy player. Not much raw talent and skill though.

What I say is true. Last year any wins were justified because CORSI says so. Now losing is just unfavorable bounces explained by a swing in shooting percentage and sv%. Yet the opposite was not true when craig Anderson had a sv% way out of his normal range. Shouldn't that be good luck? And really, should it surprise anyone the likes of Turris, Macarthur, and michalek don't bury the puck as much as others? Why do you think the Leafs got rid of a guy luke MacArthur? Works hard, handy player. Not much raw talent and skill though.
- prock

I know you're only here to troll and not put together anything of actual substance, but there wasn't anyone in the world that thought Craig Anderson's SV% last year was real (I wrote about it exhaustively last season, like here, or here).

And, it's funny you bring up shot differentials. Ottawa's numbers aren't very good this year relative to 2012 or 2013. Prior two years, they were at or above 52%, generally the mark of a playoff team. This year, they're sub-50%, generally the mark of a non-playoff team. I have written about it many times (like here), though I also did note they had a very solid stretch during December/January.

Ottawa's not winning games because they're being out-played more often than not, the goaltending's regressed sharply, and they don't really have anything to fall back on other than one great line and one great pairing. That's about it. There may be some truth that they aren't getting a few bounces right now, but it's not the delineating factor between playoff/not-playoff.

Further, the point of this post was more about a brutal one-month stretch of hockey that sunk Ottawa in the standings far more than two bad recent losses. Nothing else, really.

Again, you're not here to do anything but troll or straw man, and that's fine. But in case anyone else thinks what you're saying is remotely true, this is for them.

Ryan, Spezza, Anderson, all gone this summer. Bring on the kids!
- bcsensfan

Trade Spezza, Anderson and Michalek before the draft. I think we could get the following assets:

Michalek for a 5th rounder
Anderson for a 2nd rounder/backup goalie + 4th rounder
Spezza for a 1st rounder + 2nd rounder + prospect

I keep hearing a team like the Ducks needs a 2nd line Center. The way I see it, they save around 6M from Koivu and Selanne's contracts expiring this summer, so we could work out a deal where we hold 3M on our cap from the Spezza contract, but without paying his 4M salary, the Ducks give us a 1st round pick (I doubt they give ours back), a 2nd + a prospect. I could live with that.

The Sens then have around 10M in free cap space to give promotions to Bobby Ryan (add another 2M to his current cap for a 7.5M next years), Methot (add 1M to his current cap for a total of 4M per year), Zibanejad (add 2.5M to his current cap for 3.5M) and resign Hemsky at 4M per year. Also buyout Greening.

Exact same cap. Different roster.

Grizz-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Hemsky
Condra-Smith-XXXX
Neil-Grant/Pageau-XXXX

Roster isn't better short-term but it's the long awaited cleanup we've been waiting for a while, and helps Zibanejad's progression, and puts Ottawa back on track with some picks.

What I say is true. Last year any wins were justified because CORSI says so. Now losing is just unfavorable bounces explained by a swing in shooting percentage and sv%. Yet the opposite was not true when craig Anderson had a sv% way out of his normal range. Shouldn't that be good luck? And really, should it surprise anyone the likes of Turris, Macarthur, and michalek don't bury the puck as much as others? Why do you think the Leafs got rid of a guy luke MacArthur? Works hard, handy player. Not much raw talent and skill though.
- prock

And you were saying all this in here last season too...

Hey Travis, I think we're all pretty confused by Maclean's player deployment and I can't help but fall out of my honeymoon phase with him as a coach this year. In his first year and a half, I thought he was the best thing to happen to Ottawa besides Karlsson but I guess a lot of the player usage decisions were made for him last year. I don't doubt he's still a very capable NHL coach but wondering what your opinion on him is.
- Sens1165

I think Alfredsson leaving (not being there for advice) played a huge part in this.
I know management's been scrutinized by fans for the Alfie mess, but imo they've been under-scrutinized for it.
EM you (frank)

I think Alfredsson leaving (not being there for advice) played a huge part in this.
I know management's been scrutinized by fans for the Alfie mess, but imo they've been under-scrutinized for it.
EM you (frank)
- d0_0b

I have my theory that Alfredsson wanted to leave more than anything else. If you look at the first year MacLean was there, for the first time in his career, Alfredsson threw a fit, in the playoffs against the Rangers when he smashed his stick on the bench and stuff.

Than last year again, he said the team had practically no chacnes of winning against Pittsburgh in the second round. And then, he picked up the puck after his last home game with the Sens as a souvenir. I think he knew at that point he didn't want to stick in Ottawa. Bryan Murray probably knew this and was stuck in another Clouston-Heatley where he had to chose between the coach and the player and since Alfredsson was 40years old, he decided it was smarter to let him leave. In that case though, either MacLean or Alfredsson leaving was a bad move for the organization.

I know you're only here to troll and not put together anything of actual substance, but there wasn't anyone in the world that thought Craig Anderson's SV% last year was real (I wrote about it exhaustively last season, like here, or here).

And, it's funny you bring up shot differentials. Ottawa's numbers aren't very good this year relative to 2012 or 2013. Prior two years, they were at or above 52%, generally the mark of a playoff team. This year, they're sub-50%, generally the mark of a non-playoff team. I have written about it many times (like here), though I also did note they had a very solid stretch during December/January.

Ottawa's not winning games because they're being out-played more often than not, the goaltending's regressed sharply, and they don't really have anything to fall back on other than one great line and one great pairing. That's about it. There may be some truth that they aren't getting a few bounces right now, but it's not the delineating factor between playoff/not-playoff.

Further, the point of this post was more about a brutal one-month stretch of hockey that sunk Ottawa in the standings far more than two bad recent losses. Nothing else, really.

Again, you're not here to do anything but troll or straw man, and that's fine. But in case anyone else thinks what you're saying is remotely true, this is for them.
- Travis Yost

First, I never said anything about shot differentials.

Maybe you wrote some blogs about it. Maybe that comment was misdirected at you, rather than some of the posters here. Because for the last year, maybe year and a half, there were a lot of comments about Ottawa having the best goaltending duo in the league, because of some of those numbers. Surely you can understand what the appearance of it is, when those numbers go the other way its "unfavourable bounces" can't you? However I will concede that it may be unfair to attribute both sets of comments to you.

Third, call it trolling, call it whatever you want. Despite finishing ahead of the Sens in the standings last year, many comments were made by Sens fans, some that I've reposted in recent threads, as well as pretty consistent comments up until this last week, regarding an impending slide because its all luck. Some suggesting that the sens would be passing both the habs and leafs after the Olympic break, due to them being bad teams. While admittedly you yourself are much less abrasive in the threads, you made the same predictions. Surely you can understand why you, and the Sens posters here, might get some backlash for that, don't you? I've heard enough, as I said, of any Leafs and Habs success being attributes to luck, and Sens failures due to bad luck. At some point you have to just own up to the two teams just being better. And I think after 120 games, that point is long past.

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- Rmcfalls89

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- Rmcfalls89

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- Rmcfalls89

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First, I never said anything about shot differentials.

Maybe you wrote some blogs about it. Maybe that comment was misdirected at you, rather than some of the posters here. Because for the last year, maybe year and a half, there were a lot of comments about Ottawa having the best goaltending duo in the league, because of some of those numbers. Surely you can understand what the appearance of it is, when those numbers go the other way its "unfavourable bounces" can't you? However I will concede that it may be unfair to attribute both sets of comments to you.

Third, call it trolling, call it whatever you want. Despite finishing ahead of the Sens in the standings last year, many comments were made by Sens fans, some that I've reposted in recent threads, as well as pretty consistent comments up until this last week, regarding an impending slide because its all luck. Some suggesting that the sens would be passing both the habs and leafs after the Olympic break, due to them being bad teams. While admittedly you yourself are much less abrasive in the threads, you made the same predictions. Surely you can understand why you, and the Sens posters here, might get some backlash for that, don't you? I've heard enough, as I said, of any Leafs and Habs success being attributes to luck, and Sens failures due to bad luck. At some point you have to just own up to the two teams just being better. And I think after 120 games, that point is long past.
- prock

So... you're upset about something some pro-Sens posters said in a SENS forum - and now you're looking for some homers to say you were right? Get a life and stay away from here. Geez...

Travis Yost: A Fun Graph
- Travis Yost

that is not a fun graph....
please see below for accurate fun graph

First, I never said anything about shot differentials.

Maybe you wrote some blogs about it. Maybe that comment was misdirected at you, rather than some of the posters here. Because for the last year, maybe year and a half, there were a lot of comments about Ottawa having the best goaltending duo in the league, because of some of those numbers. Surely you can understand what the appearance of it is, when those numbers go the other way its "unfavourable bounces" can't you? However I will concede that it may be unfair to attribute both sets of comments to you.

Third, call it trolling, call it whatever you want. Despite finishing ahead of the Sens in the standings last year, many comments were made by Sens fans, some that I've reposted in recent threads, as well as pretty consistent comments up until this last week, regarding an impending slide because its all luck. Some suggesting that the sens would be passing both the habs and leafs after the Olympic break, due to them being bad teams. While admittedly you yourself are much less abrasive in the threads, you made the same predictions. Surely you can understand why you, and the Sens posters here, might get some backlash for that, don't you? I've heard enough, as I said, of any Leafs and Habs success being attributes to luck, and Sens failures due to bad luck. At some point you have to just own up to the two teams just being better. And I think after 120 games, that point is long past.
- prock

Look. I'll try to explain our issue with you more constructively than others might.

Every time you come into our thread, you say things to try to get a rise out of us. 50% of the time, you say the Sens suck. The other 50% of the time you tell us how stupid we are for something we said in the past and how wrong we are. Never do you come in and attempt to add to a conversation. The only times you try to engage in discussion is after we've gotten upset already, but the damage is already done.

Instead of coming into this thread and saying right out that the Sens suck, you should try to use facts, possibly give your personal solution to said problem and engage with the previous discussion that was taking place. But you try really hard to get us upset and most of the time it works.

I understand that sometimes people call you an idiot and tell you to get the hell out of our thread. But just because some people are bumholes doesn't mean you automatically have every right to be one as well. Believe me, I know some comments from some people on some threads other than you are out of line as well. But nonetheless, you should attempt to ignore them and continue discussing with the others.

There's a reason why a Toronto referee came in here yesterday (maybe two days ago? can't remember) and told you to get out. And it's not because you were doing anything good.

Anyways, take from it what you will. Have a good one..

Its almost unbelievable how apt you are at trying to explain rival teams successes and Ottawas failures with graphs that you feel suggest favorable and unfavorable bounces.

Perhaps the team just sucks?
- prock

You're life must just be so sad that you have to keep coming back here to start poop just so you can kind of converse with people. Where's your change cup, I'll give you a dollar...