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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Who here is comfortable with Sutter making 4M per season? Because that is the kind of cap hit he is looking at in his new deal.
- Ryan_Wilson


I don't think that it would take $4 mil, but probably 2 x $3.25-$3.35 or something like that.

Besides one good year in 2009-10, he's a 30 point center who's an RFA.
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
no. i loved #11 when he was here but his complaints were that he wanted to play on a team with a brother and that he didnt want to be the 3rd line center. the reasons he left still exist. unless he has changed his mind?? Canes and Pens have been good trading partnes. Maybe they want that draft pick back that they gave up to get Staal??

maybe he wants to play on a team with another brother so its callahan for staal? NYR wants to pay Callahan $6M/yr so....

- i'mjustafan

A few straight years of missing the playoffs and losing might have changed his mind. One of those "grass isnt always greener scenarios". Think he has more fun losing with his brother than playing in the playoffs and bringing the cup home to show off to his brothers in the offseason?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
I have a very difficult time believing this. The only way the Canes cut salary is by removing Ward and Ruutu. My best guess is that Dreger let this slip as a favour to Shero or some other GM to potentially drive down the asking price for Kesler.

J.Staal has been just fine and would be even better if he weren't playing with 4th line talent.

- BINGO!


Above all, in these next two days, lets keep this in mind. Anything leaked is leaked with a reason for someone.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
I think they have to move him if they know they cant resign him. We wont match up well against the hawks if weo dnt have him, but I cant see us getting past them either regardless. Just nice to get back to the dance, only way we move on is if Varly steals us that series.

Move him, get the assets, and look at balancign out the roster in the offseason probably is the best and correct option

- DDM-Coga


Would love to get McGinn from the Av's. What would that take? I've always thought our teams would be good trade partners. Unfortunately, we're pretty beat up on the blue line so maybe not anymore.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Would love to get McGinn from the Av's. What would that take? I've always thought our teams would be good trade partners. Unfortunately, we're pretty beat up on the blue line so maybe not anymore.
- madmike71


McGinn could be shopped, I bet we could look at moving him a better D prospect like Pouliot, or a Despres plus a kicker.

Avs apparently are only looking for young d who have term on their contracts or are pending RFAs. Kulikov is the perfect example of that target
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
McGinn could be shopped, I bet we could look at moving him a better D prospect like Pouliot, or a Despres plus a kicker.

Avs apparently are only looking for young d who have term on their contracts or are pending RFAs. Kulikov is the perfect example of that target

- DDM-Coga



Pens won't give us Pouliot for Kesler but you want him for McGinn.
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
wasnt the trade for Staal a first round pick, doumolin and sutter? the pick ended up being pouliot right? so do the pens offer sutter, pouliot and and doumolin back for staal since he signed for the $6M/yr that shero originally offered? holy "undo" button if that were to happen.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:04 AM ET

Pens won't give us Pouliot for Kesler but you want him for McGinn.

- Scooby_Doo


I thought he was just an ok d prospect, Maatha is a stud, but I thought the other prospects were just meh at the moment wtih Pouliot being the best out of them
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:04 AM ET

Pens won't give us Pouliot for Kesler but you want him for McGinn.

- Scooby_Doo
Bet you they do give you guys Pouliot. Shero wants Kesler according to reports he will do it IMO
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:05 AM ET
I thought he was just an ok d prospect, Maatha is a stud, but I thought the other prospects were just meh at the moment wtih Pouliot being the best out of them
- DDM-Coga

He's considered to have the ability to be a top 4 defenseman and qb the pp. Showed really well for Canada in the WJC and has improved his defensive game. I think he's a highly regarded prospect
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:06 AM ET
wasnt the trade for Staal a first round pick, doumolin and sutter? the pick ended up being pouliot right? so do the pens offer sutter, pouliot and and doumolin back for staal since he signed for the $6M/yr that shero originally offered? holy "undo" button if that were to happen.
- i'mjustafan

No chance. Exchange Pouliot for Despres or a first and it might happen.
ScienceJesus
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 4 @ 11:06 AM ET
I thought he was just an ok d prospect, Maatha is a stud, but I thought the other prospects were just meh at the moment wtih Pouliot being the best out of them
- DDM-Coga


Pouliot is in the Letang mold with a similar upside. He's a significantly above meh prospect and could be NHL ready next year or the following year.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
He's considered to have the ability to be a top 4 defenseman and qb the pp. Showed really well for Canada in the WJC and has improved his defensive game. I think he's a highly regarded prospect
- dbell646


sorry didnt know how highly regarding he was, all I know is Maatha is the real deal
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
I thought he was just an ok d prospect, Maatha is a stud, but I thought the other prospects were just meh at the moment wtih Pouliot being the best out of them
- DDM-Coga


I've heard he's by far their best prospect.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:08 AM ET
No chance. Exchange Pouliot for Despres or a first and it might happen.
- Orpik44


Despres would be the guy then, needed you guys to tell me the quality of the prospect. He is playing with you guys currently right and not down on the farm?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:08 AM ET
I've heard he's by far their best prospect.
- Scooby_Doo


when the had Joe Morrow too, they had like a billion great d prospects, hard to keep up who is at the top of the charts ha
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Pouliot is in the Letang mold with a similar upside. He's a significantly above meh prospect and could be NHL ready next year or the following year.
- ScienceJesus


No idea, well I will look for him as a sleeper pick in next years keeper pool
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
sorry didnt know how highly regarding he was, all I know is Maatha is the real deal
- DDM-Coga

Maatta came out of no where. We all knew he was a good junior defenseman but he is poised and works very hard. Couldn't have predicted that
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
sorry didnt know how highly regarding he was, all I know is Maatha is the real deal
- DDM-Coga

Maybe you are mixing up Mantha with Määttä haha
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:13 AM ET
Haha that would be one for the ages!

They would ask for Pouliot, no doubt.

Sutter, Pouliot and a 1st or Sutter, Despres and a 1st.

- Orpik44


The sad thing ... I think you are serious.

Jordan Staal as a third line center making six million for the next eight years isn't the answer. 21 goals, 37 assists in 109 games for the Canes with better wingers than he had here? You need your head examined.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
Maybe you are mixing up Mantha with Määttä haha
- Orpik44


That would be a great combination of a hockey player
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
McGinn could be shopped, I bet we could look at moving him a better D prospect like Pouliot, or a Despres plus a kicker.

Avs apparently are only looking for young d who have term on their contracts or are pending RFAs. Kulikov is the perfect example of that target

- DDM-Coga


So, a guy that would be a third line player her is worth Pouliot plus? People truly need their heads examined. He isn't worth Pouliot straight up
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
Maybe you are mixing up Mantha with Määttä haha
- Orpik44


Those fins always have sneaky letters in their names, when it doubt add a few extra when you dont know how to spell it
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
Maatta came out of no where. We all knew he was a good junior defenseman but he is poised and works very hard. Couldn't have predicted that
- dbell646

He was supposed to be drafted at 6th overall but got hurt and lost a few positions. But yeah nobody expected him to make the team this year let alone be one or our best on the ice every night.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Mar 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
The sad thing ... I think you are serious.

Jordan Staal as a third line center making six million for the next eight years isn't the answer. 21 goals, 37 assists in 109 games for the Canes with better wingers than he had here? You need your head examined.

- Oneonta Penguin

Hooray, here comes Oneonta to come tell everyone how stupid they are and that he knows/cares more about the Penguins than you.
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