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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m
WPG and SJ have had some discussions on Devin Setoguchi returning to Sharks. Let's see if it gets done. #tsn #Tradecentre



Gooch to reprise the role of CheechooDeux.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
Yeah. I just don't think you can say Gardiner has potential top pair ability. He's 23 and hasn't even nailed down a regular spot in the top 6 despite numerous opportunities.
- PhillySportsGuy


How can you defend L Schenn than say something ridiculous like this?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
only been in League couple of years....came from college hockey...Schenn was rushed in at 18 years old from Jr....Honestly I don't know if Gardiner will be that good, but he has the tools.....he is all offence.....Schenn is slow but big and physical....when I knock Schenn I don't say he blows or they should cut him...I just don't think he is very good and thats after 6 years in the league....I hope Im proved wrong.
- landros 2


I don't even want to get into a Luke Schenn argument today. I just don't see why a 23 year old Gardiner has all the potential in the world, but a 24 year old Luke Schenn has maxed out as a third pairing guy.

Don't give me number of NHL games played because Gardiner hasn't been able to crack the top 6 for a few years now.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Mar 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
Homer is probably thinking of a goalie tandem. Woukdnt be the first time.

Two positions the Flyers are great at ducking up... G and D

- Flyersgod

Yeah, I have a hard time believing that they are after a goalie. I don't think they would want to create a goalie controversy by having 2 number ones. Even if they can move Emery.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
How can you defend L Schenn than say something ridiculous like this?
- Flyersgod


Because Luke Schenn HAS nailed down a top 6 spot.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
Thats a possibility. It will be interesting to see what the Flyers do with their backup position. They have always gone cheap, so I assume Heeter will be given every opportunity.

Stolarz should be getting quite a few starts with the Phantoms next season.

- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah I wasn't sure if Stolarz would be ready for the AHL yet or not.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
Still nothing on St.Louis? It seems like this Kesler thing has completely shadowed St.Louis. Fishy.
- SchennBros

I think he only wanted to go to the NYRs and Yzerman said no deal.

Now Rags are going to sign Callahan for 6M per which is a lot I think.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:09 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Luke Schenn for Gardiner. At least Schenn has shown some ability in the NHL. He's had good stretches. Gardiner hasn't done a thing in the NHL.
- PhillySportsGuy


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:10 PM ET

- Flyersgod


Keep falling in love with Gardiner because he can skate and shoot. Don't worry that your DEFENSEman can't play defense.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:11 PM ET
I don't even want to get into a Luke Schenn argument today. I just don't see why a 23 year old Gardiner has all the potential in the world, but a 24 year old Luke Schenn has maxed out as a third pairing guy.

Don't give me number of NHL games played because Gardiner hasn't been able to crack the top 6 for a few years now.

- PhillySportsGuy


The same Schenn that was a healthy scratch in Toronto?

Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Because Luke Schenn HAS nailed down a top 6 spot.
- PhillySportsGuy


You're either being sarcastic or ironic. Which is it?

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Mike Smith was pretty decent for a season or two. They had Niitty too.
- Tomahawk


Ha! Yeah. Mike Smith wound up playing himself out of Tampa so they could try the Anders Lindback Experiment
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Keep falling in love with Gardiner because he can skate and shoot. Don't worry that your DEFENSEman can't play defense.
- PhillySportsGuy


So him and schenn have something in common!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
Btw, to those who were asking about Giordano, Burke just listed him alongside Monahan as the two players he might deem 'untouchable'.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
The same Schenn that was a healthy scratch in Toronto?
- Flyersgod


In Schenn's last 3 seasons with Toronto, he missed 6 total games. Gardiner has never been scratched though. He's a regular in their star studded lineup.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 5m

Flyers and Jets talking trade again. Hearing Evander Kane's name again.

For whats its worth
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
You're either being sarcastic or ironic. Which is it?


- Flyersgod


Give Schenn a defense partner like Timonen or Coburn and watch him become a top 4 defenseman again.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
Btw, to those who were asking about Giordano, Burke just listed him alongside Monahan as the two players he might deem 'untouchable'.
- Tomahawk


That makes sense
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Ha! Yeah. Mike Smith wound up playing himself out of Tampa so they could try the Anders Lindback Experiment
- AllInForFlyers



While he was there, they were still getting more or less league-average goaltending. By the time Smith lost his job, and they brought Roloson in, Mez was already a Flyer.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
I don't even want to get into a Luke Schenn argument today. I just don't see why a 23 year old Gardiner has all the potential in the world, but a 24 year old Luke Schenn has maxed out as a third pairing guy.

Don't give me number of NHL games played because Gardiner hasn't been able to crack the top 6 for a few years now.

- PhillySportsGuy

my god neither do I......as a rookie two years ago he had 30 pts ....last year in the playoffs he had 5 pts in 6 games and was the leafs top D man...this year he has been in Carlisles dog house ...and has fallen out of favor....
he has been a top 6 d man this year.
but alas some still cling to the Hope that is Luke Schenn...I don't.
FlyersGrace
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 5m

Flyers and Jets talking trade again. Hearing Evander Kane's name again.

For whats its worth

- nonpoint22

I wouldn't mind that - depending on what we gave up for him. I had to go check but there are a lot of reasonable years left on his current deal.
That said I doubt it happens.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
While he was there, they were still getting more or less league-average goaltending. By the time Smith lost his job, and they brought Roloson in, Mez was already a Flyer.
- Tomahawk


Mez-O'Donnell was their top pairing and the Flyers 3rd pairing.

I feel like the Roloson year where they went to the conference finals was a bit of a fluke.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 5m

Flyers and Jets talking trade again. Hearing Evander Kane's name again.

For whats its worth

- nonpoint22


That is one name I wouldnt be upset about. I wonder if an even trade of Voracek for Kane could be made....
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
Give Schenn a defense partner like Timonen or Coburn and watch him become a top 4 defenseman again.
- PhillySportsGuy

ya ok...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
keep in mind I think its a bad deal.....maybe they think some of the depth will come from the Phantoms?
my point is its the type of deal where by Holmgren probably can make the #s work if he wants to....

- landros 2



I think it's a bad deal also. And I agree, always ways to make things happen.
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