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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Problem is, with Gustafsson not being trusted, & Grossman backpedaling into Mason on line rushes, I'm not so sure Mez is our #7, 6, or even our #5 at this point.

When healthy, and with the right partner, he has more value to us over any 2nd round picks, similar to Luke, he has elevated his game.

- puckhead17


He does. But if you can have a 2nd for a rental defenseman who has no idea how to play defense, you do it. The second round usually has a few hidden gems, and I'd roll the dice on it.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Problem is, with Gustafsson not being trusted, & Grossman backpedaling into Mason on line rushes, I'm not so sure Mez is our #7, 6, or even our #5 at this point.

When healthy, and with the right partner, he has more value to us over any 2nd round picks, similar to Luke, he has elevated his game.

- puckhead17


Which is why I temper my enthusiasm over these last 2 wins....another very nice still MAJOR flaws on the blue line
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Implying CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, and/or CNBC doesn't have an agenda is comical.

FoxNews, as lame as it is, is lightheadedness ahead of the other networks in terms of honesty.

- Flyersgod


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
no actually.....although the trade looks one sided. I think Luke will be a serviceable 5-6 guy with warts on his game....its not his fault the trade was made for JVR....I just don't see any consistency to his game....this is his 6th year in the NHL.
like I said, can he get better? maybe....but in my opinion it will never be a huge improvement.

- landros 2


I think he'll be a top 4 defensive defenseman because he's shown that ability already.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:54 AM ET

- wolfhounds



Perfect.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
I remember when we got him and I saw him play for the first time. I was like "there must be something bad about him. He skates way too well and is way too big for them to just give him away."
- PhillySportsGuy


Atlanta was in desperation mode to make the playoffs, which wound up going down the toilet anyway.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:54 AM ET

- wolfhounds


Thank you
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
They all lie. Foxnews is just one of the bunch. They open themselves up to criticism because they call themselves "fair and balanced". MSNBC never tries to hide the fact they're left leaning.
- PhillySportsGuy


Leaning implys slightly... MSNBC is nothing more than a propaganda machine. It's not left leaning. It's bent left!
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
Of the guys we drafted, probably. Ghost is pretty small and isn't exactly lighting it up in college.

- Flyersgod


Huh?
That goes against every review I have read about Ghost this season.
People have been raving about him, not sure where you came up with that assessment .
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Leaning implys slightly... MSNBC is nothing more than a propaganda machine. It's not left leaning. It's bent left!
- Flyersgod


Thank god FoxNews keeps it balanced and gives the news from everyones point of view.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Leaning implys slightly... MSNBC is nothing more than a propaganda machine. It's not left leaning. It's bent left!
- Flyersgod

And Fox is bent right. Right up their own.... oh i better just stop before the teacher comes.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
Leaning implys slightly... MSNBC is nothing more than a propaganda machine. It's not left leaning. It's bent left!
- Flyersgod



You're ignoring the fact that MSNBC was adapted to be the left's copycat of Fox News.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
He does. But if you can have a 2nd for a rental defenseman who has no idea how to play defense, you do it. The second round usually has a few hidden gems, and I'd roll the dice on it.
- jmatchett383


While being in a tight playoff race, and having a dearth of depth at the position?

I pass
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
You're ignoring the fact that MSNBC was adapted to be the left's copycat of Fox News.
- Tomahawk


Foxnews viewers can't accept the fact that they're the right wing version of MSNBC.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Leaning implys slightly... MSNBC is nothing more than a propaganda machine. It's not left leaning. It's bent left!
- Flyersgod


And whats Foxnews...center right....You have got to be joking...its the biggest scare mongering, hateful, agenda filled network in the nation....many countries wont air it cause it doesnt meet there journalistic standards to be considered a news network..Which probably says something about our standards, but anyway back to more important things like HOCKEY
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Which is why I temper my enthusiasm over these last 2 wins....another very nice still MAJOR flaws on the blue line
- nonpoint22


Grossmann reminds me of Batista in the WWE, (he looks like him), especially when he gets beat to the inside, and grabs hold to apply his power bomb.

Problem is the power bomb isn't legal in hockey, so I'm keeping Mez for now.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
This year? He's taken a step back. He's shown flashes of improving but still has lapses far too often. But most of us agreed that, as bad as the Flyers defense was last year, it would have been far, far worse without him. Right now, he's a guy who plays well when paired with a calmer defenseman like Timonen, but struggles when he's counted on as the anchor and offensive part of the pair.
- jmatchett383


Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Foxnews viewers can't accept the fact that they're the right wing version of MSNBC.
- PhillySportsGuy



The fact that either network exists, much less flourishes, tells you all you need to know about the sad state of our political discourse.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Grossmann reminds me of Batista in the WWE, especially when he gets beat to the inside, and grabs hold to apply his power bomb.

Problem is the power bomb isn't legal in hockey, so I'm keeping Mez for now.

- puckhead17


/starts a power bomb (whatever that is) petition for hockey!
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Grossmann reminds me of Batista in the WWE, (he looks like him), especially when he gets beat to the inside, and grabs hold to apply his power bomb.

Problem is the power bomb isn't legal in hockey, so I'm keeping Mez for now.

- puckhead17


Thats not a bad analogy
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
The fact that either network exists, much less flourishes, tells you all you need to know about the sad state of our political discourse.
- Tomahawk


Unfortunately, you are correct sir
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
The fact that either network exists, much less flourishes, tells you all you need to know about the sad state of our political discourse.
- Tomahawk


I don't even watch the news. I don't trust it.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
Thats not a bad analogy
- nonpoint22


It is pretty funny, he does look like him, and plays that way somewhat as well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 12:04 PM ET
If a fan can't know that.. how can a fan know it not to be true?
- Flyersgod



It mind wind up being true. But the point is that it's really just a random guess. The top talent evaluators in the business can't speak that definitively on a player like haag at 19. That's the point.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 12:04 PM ET

- wolfhounds


They're the most trusted news station in the country.

It's not debatable. It's fact.

Don't let your blind hatred for opposing opinions cloud your judgement.
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