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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:36 AM ET
Agreed. Kid's 19, hasn't played a single game in North America yet, and people know his ceiling already?
- wolfhounds


Comparable skills, size, and location. Wasn't claiming to know.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
I wonder if they'll be selling Flyers Weber jerseys during the draft
- PhillySportsGuy


I'd love one. I was all set to go out and get a Weber jersey if Nashville didn't match/matched and traded.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'd really like to see a stats guy get the lines for when L. Schenn is partnered with Meszaros or Streit v. any other partner.


L. Schenn was arguably our best defenseman last season (paired with Timonen). He looked solid in the stretch before the Olympic break while paired with Gustafsson. In short--from what I've seen with Schenn's play--he looks pretty good when he's not paired with a fourth forward (Meszaros or Streit).

- Moose_15



you must be related.....he was ok to decent last year....lets not have revisionist history here....He has been acceptable to brutal this year... I can't beleive anyone can defend the trade....lets not pretend he might morph in to a top 4 d man because his play suggests different.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:38 AM ET

The D one is playing much better.

Question: what the hell happened with Pat LaFontaine???

- puckhead17


No one knows, TBH. Lost of rumors.

The main thinking is he was not invloved in the Miller trade and there was a power struggle and a clash of egos.

LaFontaine is said to be a my way or nothing guy.

IT does not look good on LaFontaine, since this is the second time this has happened with him where he has left an organization within a few montsh of hire.

Either way it looks bad on the Sabres as a whole, and people are questioning (wrongfully IMO) the leadership of Pegula
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
Of the guys we drafted, probably. Ghost is pretty small and isn't exactly lighting it up in college.

Haggs been meh thus far in Europe but has the size and skill to mature into a better player.

Morin has improved substantially each year.

Look, none of us are NHL scouts. We can't say who is right or wrong until they make it or don't.

- Flyersgod


Actually, Gostisbehere has been arguably the best defenseman in the NCAA this season. Observers rave about his skill and smarts.

Hagg has been pretty solid in Europe, and was very good in the WJC this winter.

Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
And that scares me....its like the FoxNews for hockey fans...no facts tons of agenda
- nonpoint22


Implying CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, and/or CNBC doesn't have an agenda is comical.

FoxNews, as lame as it is, is lightheadedness ahead of the other networks in terms of honesty.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
Comparable skills, size, and location. Wasn't claiming to know.
- Flyersgod


Hagg was a poetntial first round pick but a lot of teams had issues with his consistency. Which is still his one big issue. Even from shift to shift, he'll look like Timonen one play and then Modry the next. I think he tops out as a top-4 two-way played with a good outlet pass.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Nobody's saying... but apparently he didn't want to deal Miller... and Murray might have circumvented him to make it happen.
- Tomahawk


In for 3 months, and then poof, gone.

Did he not know of the rebuilding process that was underway when he signed on?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
I hate to repeat myself, but I really believe B.Schenn has played himself off any trade block...he is starting to show signs of living up to all that "potential"
- nonpoint22


But I want him!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
you must be related.....he was ok to decent last year....lets not have revisionist history here....He has been acceptable to brutal this year... I can't beleive anyone can defend the trade....lets not pretend he might morph in to a top 4 d man because his play suggests different.
- landros 2


He was a top 4 defenseman last year...
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Are we still doomed forever?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
They're not getting Weber. Not for at least 6-7 years. But at the same time, you know the Flyers would love to make a huge splash at their draft. The shirt/jersey sales would be incredible.
- jmatchett383


I agree 100%...If they got him I think it would take all of about 5 mins for shirts to hit the stands...Bettman: "We have a trade to announce Nashville trades Shea Weber to Philadelphia for....." 5 Mins later on jumbotron..."Fans dont forget to pick up your Shea Weber flyers gear in the fanzone"
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
I wonder if they'll be selling Flyers Weber jerseys during the draft
- PhillySportsGuy



They should do a giveaway of these on the first day:

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
you must be related.....he was ok to decent last year....lets not have revisionist history here....
- landros 2


It's not revisionist history. He led the team in ice time last year, and was the only defenseman other than Kimmo to be a plus player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
you must be related.....he was ok to decent last year....lets not have revisionist history here....He has been acceptable to brutal this year... I can't beleive anyone can defend the trade....lets not pretend he might morph in to a top 4 d man because his play suggests different.
- landros 2


He's right though. Luke Schenn was one of the lone bright spots last year, and really looked like he was morphing into a top-notch shutdown player.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
Are we still doomed forever?
- BulliesPhan87


Were flyers fans...that goes without saying
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
Implying CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, and/or CNBC doesn't have an agenda is comical.

FoxNews, as lame as it is, is lightheadedness ahead of the other networks in terms of honesty.

- Flyersgod


They all lie. Foxnews is just one of the bunch. They open themselves up to criticism because they call themselves "fair and balanced". MSNBC never tries to hide the fact they're left leaning.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
He was a top 4 defenseman last year...
- PhillySportsGuy


on the Flyers!!!!!! a non playoff team, just ahead of lauridson!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
They should do a giveaway of these on the first day:


- Tomahawk


That'd be so messed up.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
Were flyers fans...that goes without saying
- nonpoint22

I still Berubelieve


...yeah, I'll show myself out.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
But I want him!
- ImThatGuy


As long as you're okay with not having both Ristolainen and Zadorov, you can have him.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
No one knows, TBH. Lost of rumors.

The main thinking is he was not invloved in the Miller trade and there was a power struggle and a clash of egos.

LaFontaine is said to be a my way or nothing guy.

IT does not look good on LaFontaine, since this is the second time this has happened with him where he has left an organization within a few montsh of hire.

Either way it looks bad on the Sabres as a whole, and people are questioning (wrongfully IMO) the leadership of Pegula

- ImThatGuy


Seems strange that this team was in full rebuilding mode when he signed on, and jumped ship after the first trade.
your correct, I forgot he also jumped ship really early after Wang made moves in NY.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
In for 3 months, and then poof, gone.

Did he not know of the rebuilding process that was underway when he signed on?

- puckhead17



Guess he didn't want to throw Miller out with the bath water... wanted to re-sign him. Murray supposedly refused to even broach Miller's agent about an extension... made up his mind to trade him from day 1.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
Implying CNN, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, and/or CNBC doesn't have an agenda is comical.

FoxNews, as lame as it is, is lightheadedness ahead of the other networks in terms of honesty.

- Flyersgod


They all suck, but you cant really believe this..right? They all suck and to imply that one is better then the other is well not going there
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
on the Flyers!!!!!! a non playoff team, just ahead of lauridson!!
- landros 2


No. He played as a top 4 defenseman last year. He and Timonen were the Flyers best defenseman. They could have been a good 2nd pairing on a top NHL team.
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