Keri Adams ‏@Keri_Adams 2m
SNOW! 'significant' snowfall warning issued for Metro #Vancouver. 10-15cm expected, starting tonight. http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42 …. Ugh.

Hope this doesn't hit Victoria!!!

Grabner was put on waivers and given away for free by the Panthers.
- KB3Point0

This is why I dont want to give up on any prospect in our system until were certain that theyre a bust. Jensen, Schroeder, Gaunce, and other should all be given every opportunity until management is certain of their future.

Pat LaFontaine being fired this quick?
- LeftCoaster

He was president of operations right?

I think we can all agree Columbus won't move Johansen. What about a package like this:

Boone Jenner, Wennberg + a 1st for Kesler. Canucks army was hyping this kind of move.

He was president of operations right?
- Yeti1181

Yes - President of Hockey Operations

Keri Adams ‏@Keri_Adams 2m
SNOW! 'significant' snowfall warning issued for Metro #Vancouver. 10-15cm expected, starting tonight. http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42 …. Ugh.

Hope this doesn't hit Victoria!!!
- LeftCoaster

already snowing in the valley

I think we can all agree Columbus won't move Johansen. What about a package like this:

Boone Jenner, Wennberg + a 1st for Kesler. Canucks army was hyping this kind of move.
- 89_hockey

That's exactly what I was suggesting

Gillis has done NOTHING with this top six in years, his biggest move (or non-move) was to bring in Booth.
- LeftCoaster

Gillis is just an inexperienced GM. It's not all his fault. The canucks have a whole team of highly paid executives that dropped the ball (particularly looking at pro and amateur scouting). He probably was not the best choice at the time considering how close this team was to being a true cup contender.

Keri Adams ‏@Keri_Adams 2m
SNOW! 'significant' snowfall warning issued for Metro #Vancouver. 10-15cm expected, starting tonight. http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42 …. Ugh.

Hope this doesn't hit Victoria!!!
- LeftCoaster

I wonder if they'll have the roof open for this tomorrow.

This is why I dont want to give up on any prospect in our system until were certain that theyre a bust. Jensen, Schroeder, Gaunce, and other should all be given every opportunity until management is certain of their future.
- Gullzy

Grabner's hardly the freakin' stud everyone likes to make him out to be. He averages 14 mins a night for the lowly Islanders. He has 22 points this year. What's the big deal about losing Michael Freakin' Grabner?

MayRay has 35 points right now yet we couldn't get him out of town fast enough. He's also twice the player defensively that Grabner is.

Grabner got punted out of town cause his work ethic sucked. Same reason he got punted out of Florida.

The one positivie about Gillis trading Kes is that he makes his list of players he wants to target and goes for them. I know its against popular opnion but the Hodgson for Kassian deal I think was a good deal. Hodgson is a second line center with defensive liabilities.
Kassian is potentially a first line winger with size and grit and those guys are impossible to get. How many teams are looking for 'size up front' or 'grit'? There is a long list....

The timing of the deal was horrendous. Canucks were in win now mode and Kassian won't reach his potential for a couple more years....

The point is Gillis tries to trade quality for quality. Targets specific players that are hard to get. He's made some misses but at least he is better than Feaster... What a disaster last year for you poor flames fans. How they ever thought he was a good idea is beyond me. His articles on The Hockey News were even bad.
- 89_hockey

The two parts in bold couldnt contradict each other more. Squander assets that could be used to get you over the top for players that need 5 years to be an impact player during your narrow Stanley Cup window. Thats (frank)ing horrible is what that is. Also, is Kassian really as special as you just claimed? Special enough to put up with all this trouble down the middle for years during the potential we had to win cups? Hes not even that physical to be honest. He has just as many games without hits as he does with hits. He's also a defensive liability just like Hodgson.... but cant QB a PP...spomething else that is absolutely killing us right now. I know we all for the most part exaggerated Hodgson's potential but there was a hell of a lot more visible potential. Kassian has OK hockey skills and sometimes plays physical. His size isnt nowhere near what people pretend it is. Big Zack Kassian is not very big really by nhl standards and Booth with the same size plays more physical for christ sake.

Im trying to figure out why you think Gillis targets players hard to get? Kassian maybe because they wanted a young center but Ballard? Booth? Higgins was moved around alot, Ehrhoff was a salary dump that came knocking on Gillis door, Pahlsson was retiring,,,,, Im not feeling it.....

Grabner's hardly the freakin' stud everyone likes to make him out to be. He averages 14 mins a night for the lowly Islanders. He has 22 points this year. What's the big deal about losing Michael Freakin' Grabner?

MayRay has 35 points right now yet we couldn't get him out of town fast enough. He's also twice the player defensively that Grabner is.

Grabner got punted out of town cause his work ethic sucked. Same reason he got punted out of Florida.
- KB3Point0

He may not be a good defensive player, but the Canucks could use his O atm.

The point I was trying to make is that the Canucks should stop giving up on their prospects so god damn early.

Grabner was put on waivers and given away for free by the Panthers.
- KB3Point0

Deflection... in fact, in all those years people defended Nonis it was always point to other teams mistakes just like Nonis did.

Islanders didnt drop him. Same kind of deflection. Doesnt change the mistakes made by Gillis.

I think we can all agree Columbus won't move Johansen. What about a package like this:

Boone Jenner, Wennberg + a 1st for Kesler. Canucks army was hyping this kind of move.
- 89_hockey

No

No
- VANTEL

He has changed the culture of this franchise. Expectations are so much higher now than they were because of the performance of the team that he has built. And part of building a team in the salary cap era is keeping players and keeping them on cap friendly deals, which he has done a great job of.

Hindsight sure does make being a GM easy.
- KB3Point0

You are speaking of this core right? Most now believe in keep this core intact at all costs are why we havent moved further forward. This core doesnt appear to want to stay in tact even... keeping them together when players want out has hurt this team even....

Sure hindsight makes being a GM easy.... but not having any hidsight makes it impossible to learn anything.

Keri Adams ‏@Keri_Adams 2m
SNOW! 'significant' snowfall warning issued for Metro #Vancouver. 10-15cm expected, starting tonight. http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42 …. Ugh.

Hope this doesn't hit Victoria!!!
- LeftCoaster

Fingers crossed for no class on Monday.

- LeftCoaster

Boone Jenner does not make us better net year or the year after.

I would rather have a second line of UFA Bo Kesler than Boone BO ???

The two parts in bold couldnt contradict each other more. Squander assets that could be used to get you over the top for players that need 5 years to be an impact player during your narrow Stanley Cup window. Thats (frank)ing horrible is what that is. Also, is Kassian really as special as you just claimed? Special enough to put up with all this trouble down the middle for years during the potential we had to win cups? Hes not even that physical to be honest. He has just as many games without hits as he does with hits. He's also a defensive liability just like Hodgson.... but cant QB a PP...spomething else that is absolutely killing us right now. I know we all for the most part exaggerated Hodgson's potential but there was a hell of a lot more visible potential. Kassian has OK hockey skills and sometimes plays physical. His size isnt nowhere near what people pretend it is. Big Zack Kassian is not very big really by nhl standards and Booth with the same size plays more physical for christ sake.

Im trying to figure out why you think Gillis targets players hard to get? Kassian maybe because they wanted a young center but Ballard? Booth? Higgins was moved around alot, Ehrhoff was a salary dump that came knocking on Gillis door, Pahlsson was retiring,,,,, Im not feeling it.....




- boonerbuck

The two statements without context appear contradictory. Without any situational variable I like the deal. Put into the context of the Canucks needing to win now its a bad deal. Hodgson was helping the team that year and Kassian did not.

Ehrhoff deal - The line of thinkg that 'anyone could have made the deal' discredits Gillis' pulling off a great trade. Why didn't anyone else? Think SJ wouldn't have preffered moving him out of the conference?

Booth was a buy low and hope he figures it out post-concussion. We traded nothing for him. Had Booth stayed healthy and continued his points pace would have been an unreal deal. Hindsight is 20/20. It is very difficult to get a top 6 player without giving up a lot. Look at the offers for Kes. hard to get cheap...

Ballard was coveted by many teams. AV wrecked him. Hindsight says bad move. The only part that hurts us is the cap space we lost. The pick has yet to be useful for Florida and grabner was waived.

Higgins was a great deal and still is. He was looking for depth. He was brought in as a 4th liner.... The fact that he is on our 2nd now just shows how bad our top 6 is.

Targeting: Kassian was targeted. Big skilled wingers of his potential are very hard to get. When he traded Hodgson he looked for specific players. When he traded Schneider it was because they wanted Horvat. He moved quality for quality. The other moves are part of Gillis buy low strategy. Sometimes it works and as we all know sometimes you look retarded...

Edit: Hodgson asked for a trade. Gillis did well moving him without that leaking.

He has changed the culture of this franchise. Expectations are so much higher now than they were because of the performance of the team that he has built. And part of building a team in the salary cap era is keeping players and keeping them on cap friendly deals, which he has done a great job of.

Hindsight sure does make being a GM easy.
- KB3Point0

Really? I remember expectations were very high during the West Coast Express days. Hell, one season the canucks had two of the top three scoring leaders. During that time the canucks were a goaltender away from being a serious cup contender.

Can you elaborate on this statement "the team that he has built"?

The low cap hits he got the players to sign was at the cost of NTC. That puts all the leverage in the hands of the players. I don't consider that a great job.

These executives get paid to have foresight. Scouting staff too. That is what separates average franchises from great franchises.

Fingers crossed for no class on Monday.
- pker2theend

Here's to hoping little buddy

It has been a tragedy. Their last draft and purchasing a farm team is very encouraging though. A properly executed retooling combined with this is the reason I have optimism. They seem to have realized it cannot continue.
- 89_hockey

Their last draft because they traded a former 1st rounder they developed for half a decade into a star in the making for a 18 year old who no one knows what the potential really is? We already had the other pick.

The owner purchased the farm team. Its sucks btw and that's the part that lands on Gillis not the purchase.

Boone Jenner does not make us better net year or the year after.

I would rather have a second line of UFA Bo Kesler than Boone BO ???
- VANTEL

You're not seeing the BIG picture. Boone Jenner is a good young player, he's a center with size and offensive ability. Wennberg is a GREAT prospect, something we don't have enough of, actually one of the better ones out there….and who can't use another first round pick?

Here's to hoping little buddy
- VANTEL

MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN EVERY CLOSED BUT I HOPE THIS TIME IT BE CLOSED #BEIBER4LIFE

You're not seeing the BIG picture. Boone Jenner is a good young player, he's a center with size and offensive ability. Wennberg is a GREAT prospect, something we don't have enough of, actually one of the better ones out there….and who can't use another first round pick?
- LeftCoaster

Jenner is a GOOD young center . Kesler is a Great center.I want a proven young player that makes us better now.


We need scoring.