So who else is scared that if they loose today homer is going to do something stupid
- PhillaBully

I think they'll lose but I don't think he'll do anything stupid. I don't see an Upshall for Carcillo swap in the near future.

The sabres may end up with two firsts out of the miller deal? Is that correct?

True to some extent, but in his prime Vinnie would mix it up especially in big games.
- BiggE

I know. I won't ever forget his fight in the Cup Finals. That was great. I just don't see him being a physical player.

Im not saying he doesn't belong in the NHL, I just don't think he's a fit on this team.

Homer signed him because he was too good of a player to pass up. He didn't stop to think about position and whether they really needed him.

So who else is scared that if they loose today homer is going to do something stupid
- PhillaBully

i fear Coots and Schenn will be gone in less than a week

The sabres may end up with two firsts out of the miller deal? Is that correct?
- Briere

Yes. They will get a 2014 First if Miller re-signs with the Blues or if the Blues make it to the western conference finals.

They can also look to trade Halak and Chris Stewart for future picks as well. Halak is a ufa while Stewart is still under team control for at least 2 more seasons.

i fear Coots and Schenn will be gone in less than a week
- Winning

I think Homer has hitched his wagon to them. If he was unwilling to part with both of them for Weber, I doubt he moves them now.

Yes. They will get a 2014 First if Miller re-signs with the Blues or if the Blues make it to the western conference finals.

They can also look to trade Halak and Chris Stewart for future picks as well. Halak is a ufa while Stewart is still under team control for at least 2 more seasons.
- PhillySportsGuy

Thanks.

Buffalo is stock piling high draft picks.

Ive never really seen that aspect of his game. He's always been a bit finesse for a guy his size. Thats why Ive never really liked him as a player. I always thought St. Louis was the most important player on those good Lightning teams.
- PhillySportsGuy

It was clearly evident in the games here before he was injured. He was always around the net. Watch the highlights of the player before the back injury, and there is a clear difference in the player.

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020023

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020160

Thanks.

Buffalo is stock piling high draft picks.
- Briere

They've done a really good job of getting picks. They may end up having 8 1st round picks between 2013-15

Thanks.

Buffalo is stock piling high draft picks.
- Briere

Their doing a great job of it.

I think you and Tomahawk are both right to some extent, either way its still going to be very difficult for any player at age 34, who's played only 1 position basically since he was a peewee, to switch to a new position.
- BiggE

I don't think it's going to be that difficult. I just think it's compounded by also trying to come back from a serious injury at the same time. I simply advocate giving the player some time.

It was clearly evident in the games here before he was injured. He was always around the net. Watch the highlights of the player before the back injury, and there is a clear difference in the player.

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020023

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020160
- MJL

I think his back is still a issue. Could see him having surgery after the season

i fear Coots and Schenn will be gone in less than a week
- Winning

I seriously hope not. Just my opinion, but I don't see that happening.

I really don't see the flyers making any major deals.

I know. I won't ever forget his fight in the Cup Finals. That was great. I just don't see him being a physical player.

Im not saying he doesn't belong in the NHL, I just don't think he's a fit on this team.

Homer signed him because he was too good of a player to pass up. He didn't stop to think about position and whether they really needed him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't agree with that. Holmgren knows that there is a real possibility that a Center could be traded for a defenseman at some point. And you can never have too much depth at the Center position.

It was clearly evident in the games here before he was injured. He was always around the net. Watch the highlights of the player before the back injury, and there is a clear difference in the player.

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020023

http://flyers.nhl.com/gam...er/en/recap?id=2013020160
- MJL

I know he's capable of going to net and will do it, but I don't see him making his living there.

He's lost all confidence. He can't even handle simple passes without fumbling them away right now. To compound things, he constantly tries finesse moves. He's a veteran and should understand that doing the simplest things will be best until he's out of his slump.

If he's injured and thats whats affecting his play, he should just sit out until he feels better. He's not helping the team with the way he's been playing.

I think his back is still a issue. Could see him having surgery after the season
- PhillaBully

I don't know about surgery, but it may take an off season to get back to where he needs to be. I don't know. The worry is if it becomes chronic.

I know he's capable of going to net and will do it, but I don't see him making his living there.

He's lost all confidence. He can't even handle simple passes without fumbling them away right now. To compound things, he constantly tries finesse moves. He's a veteran and should understand that doing the simplest things will be best until he's out of his slump.

If he's injured and thats whats affecting his play, he should just sit out until he feels better. He's not helping the team with the way he's been playing.
- PhillySportsGuy

There is a difference between being injured to the point of not being able to play, and just not being at 100%. He needs to just play his way out of it.
Like I said, I look at the video of Lecavalier before the injury, versus now.

I don't agree with that. Holmgren knows that there is a real possibility that a Center could be traded for a defenseman at some point. And you can never have too much depth at the Center position.
- MJL

You can if you have centers who struggle at other positions. Guys like Hall and Read can play both positions. Vinny hasn't shown the ability to play wing and B. Schenn has been better at center (I know this is something we disagree on).

There is a difference between being injured to the point of not being able to play, and just not being at 100%. He needs to just play his way out of it.
Like I said, I look at the video of Lecavalier before the injury, versus now.
- MJL

We'll see how he does with a few games under his belt following the break, but if he continues to struggle, what do you think they should do? Just let him continue to hurt any line he plays on?

Getting in on the forecheck and going to the net was exactly what Lecavalier's game was and why he was so effective in the beginning of the Season. He's never been the kind of Center that holds the puck and draws players to him and then distributes. He's a north south player who goes hard to the net.
- MJL

Huh?

He does/did most of his damage hanging at the top of the right-circle, or sneaking in back-door on the right side. When he has the puck, he's using his size/reach to shield it while patiently waiting for teammates to get open. His game is/was a lot like Jagr's.

There is a difference between being injured to the point of not being able to play, and just not being at 100%. He needs to just play his way out of it.
Like I said, I look at the video of Lecavalier before the injury, versus now.
- MJL

What was his injury? A fracture? How long does it take a fracture to heal? If it wasn't healed would he be allowed to play?

You can if you have centers who struggle at other positions. Guys like Hall and Read can play both positions. Vinny hasn't shown the ability to play wing and B. Schenn has been better at center (I know this is something we disagree on).
- PhillySportsGuy

Lecavalier was fine at RW, which he's played before in his career. He hasn't had much time at LW. And I also don't feel that B Schenn has been clearly better at Center. He was leading the Flyers in scoring playing the Wing for sizable part of the Season. He's scored in two straight games now, but before that Schenn had one goal in the previous 10 games at Center. The truth is that he done well at times at both spots, and struggled at times at both spots. They just need to stop moving him around, because I think that contributes to the struggles of a young player. They need to put both players in one spot, and leave them there.

Huh?

He does most of his damage hanging at the top of the right-circle, or sneaking in back-door on the right side. When he has the puck, he's using his size/reach to shield it while patiently waiting for teammates to get open. His game is/was a lot like Jagr's.
- Tomahawk

He does a lot of damage at ES around the net. Hanging around the right circle is where he scores goals on the PP. His game is not even remotely close to Jagr's. Jagr is a player that holds the puck and buys time and space. Lecavalier's game is north south, going hard to the net, and shooting the puck. Including setting up for one timers on the right side on the PP.

We'll see how he does with a few games under his belt following the break, but if he continues to struggle, what do you think they should do? Just let him continue to hurt any line he plays on?
- PhillySportsGuy

Well what do you think they should do, scratch him?

What was his injury? A fracture? How long does it take a fracture to heal? If it wasn't healed would he be allowed to play?
- Dkos

It was some kind of back fracture. Not being a Doctor, I can't speak on the other questions.