With Buffalo doing a complete rebuild, does anyone think a trade for Buffalo's Myers is a possibility without losing our core guys ?

Since the Sabres seem to only want picks or young prospects to rebuild and grow as a whole, maybe Laugthon + Morin + 1st + 2nd may get it done.

Is it too much, or maybe not enough in Buffalo's eyes ?

On the other side, Myers is still very young at 24 and his play is still very inconsistent. A healthy scratch multiple times last year to a stud the next year. Hard to place value and evaluate his true potential when the player is on a very young and weak team.
- Chris48

I've been on the fence with Myers for awhile now. I'm open to it, but I worry about the wild inconsistency he has show over his career, combined with the large cap hit and long term of his contract.

To fit him in, the Flyers would have to clear room, cap wise, but I'd be open to moving a "so called" core piece to get a defenseman like him in, because he's got massive potential.

He's been playing well, the last couple games before and since the Olympics. I expect Buffalo to sell high on him, if at all. I definitely think Erhoff is more workable.

According to TSN/Sportsnet, etc Martin Brodeur has agreed to waive his NTC. No firm word on where, but Minnesota has been the most often named suitor.

That's way too much.

Morin is off the table. Laughton might be in play at the draft depending on how thrifty Homer wants to get.

Throwing a 1st rounder out there is kinda pointless too.

Myers is the same age as Luke Schenn. People complain about Schenn because he makes mistakes. People want Luke Schenn gone. Do you really want another young defenseman back there making as many mistakes as Luke Schenn?
- KGBflyers10

Do you watch Sabres games bro ? That guy is a superstar in 2-3 years. We see glimpses of it now and he plays for the worst team in the league. I think it's overpaymen a bit, but we all know you have to overpay for Dman with his potential. Plus we keep our current roster. With B. Schenn, Coots, L. Schenn and Gus and maybe Haag or Ghost getting experience, we will be really contending in 2-3 years if we upgrade our D that is really the only element making us a borderline playoff team. Making a comparison between L.Schenn and Myers is laughable by the way.

Do you watch Sabres games bro ? That guy is a superstar in 2-3 years. We see glimpses of it now and he plays for the worst team in the league. I think it's overpaymen a bit, but we all know you have to overpay for Dman with his potential. Plus we keep our current roster. With B. Schenn, Coots, L. Schenn and Gus and maybe Haag or Ghost getting experience, we will be really contending in 2-3 years if we upgrade our D that is really the only element making us a borderline playoff team. Making a comparison between L.Schenn and Myers is laughable by the way.
- Chris48

If Myers is going to be a superstar in two or three years, then why would Buffalo ever get rid of him?

If Myers is going to be a superstar in two or three years, then why would Buffalo ever get rid of him?
- KGBflyers10

They ship Pommer, Vanek and Miller before resigning them the year prior UFA. They send Gerbe on waivers and gets picked up and his producing and playing great for Carolina. There's a reason the GM was replaced with Murray this season buddy. There's a reason the are cleaning house and going for a full rebuild. Problem is, we have to overpay to get the Calder Trophy Winner Dman.

They ship Pommer, Vanek and Miller before resigning them the year prior UFA. They send Gerbe on waivers and gets picked up and his producing and playing great for Carolina. There's a reason the GM was replaced with Murray this season buddy. There's a reason the are cleaning house and going for a full rebuild. Problem is, we have to overpay to get the Calder Trophy Winner Dman.
- Chris48

Okay...so they ship Pommer, Vanek, and Miller, all of whom are veterans.

Gerbe doesn't matter.

You're saying Myers is going to be a superstar, they've cleaned house--they have cap space. If he's such a stud why not lock him up and keep him? Why not build around him--you know, build around a superstar?

Do you watch Sabres games bro ? That guy is a superstar in 2-3 years. We see glimpses of it now and he plays for the worst team in the league. I think it's overpaymen a bit, but we all know you have to overpay for Dman with his potential. Plus we keep our current roster. With B. Schenn, Coots, L. Schenn and Gus and maybe Haag or Ghost getting experience, we will be really contending in 2-3 years if we upgrade our D that is really the only element making us a borderline playoff team. Making a comparison between L.Schenn and Myers is laughable by the way.
- Chris48

If he's going to be a superstar in 3 years, there's really zero incentive for the Sabres to move him. He could/should be a cornerstone piece.

Okay...so they ship Pommer, Vanek, and Miller, all of whom are veterans.

Gerbe doesn't matter.

You're saying Myers is going to be a superstar, they've cleaned house--they have cap space. If he's such a stud why not lock him up and keep him? Why not build around him--you know, build around a superstar?
- KGBflyers10

The Pommer, Vanek, Miller reference I made was to show the stupidity of the GM. They lost both Drury and Briere for nothing in 2007. If you have valuable core players, you work and do your best to sign them the year prior they hit UFA. My point is they messed up and going all out and starting from scratch. The BUF rebuild is going to take a very long time. My bs non expert guess is 5-6 years before they really make noise in the playoff. Your right and Myers will be a superstar. That is why you have to overpay to get the Myers. But even with him on the team and with such young players he will be UFA before they are real contenders. Buffalo have 10 picks (1st and 2nd) in 2014 and 2015. They are going get a lot more picks with Moulson, Ehroof, Halak possibly being moved.

In reality, I think buffalo wouldn't mind tanking bad next year to get the next Crosby, the 1st overall in 2015 : Mcdavid.

That being said, Morin, Laughton and a 1st will all still be on the team and RFA's assuming that trade is made with BUF for Myers when the time really matters and they become real contenders.

The Pommer, Vanek, Miller reference I made was to show the stupidity of the GM. They lost both Drury and Briere for nothing in 2007. If you have valuable core players, you work and do your best to sign them the year prior they hit UFA. My point is they messed up and going all out and starting from scratch. The BUF rebuild is going to take a very long time. My bs non expert guess is 5-6 years before they really make noise in the playoff. Your right and Myers will be a superstar. That is why you have to overpay to get the Myers. But even with him on the team and with such young players he will be UFA before they are real contenders. Buffalo have 10 picks (1st and 2nd) in 2014 and 2015. They are going get a lot more picks with Moulson, Ehroof, Halak possibly being moved.

In reality, I think buffalo wouldn't mind tanking bad next year to get the next Crosby, the 1st overall in 2015 : Mcdavid.

That being said, Morin, Laughton and a 1st will all still be on the team and RFA's assuming that trade is made with BUF for Myers.
- Chris48

First of all, the current GM is Tim Murray who has made several moves that have put the Sabres potentially in a nice spot with regards to draft picks.

Regier was the previous GM who was not able to sign players to long term deals because of ownership, not because he was dumb. You do realize that the Sabres just got new ownership in the past two years, right? He's a Penn State guy with a lot of money.

Secondly, I've never suggested Tyler Myers is going to be a superstar. You said that. What I was trying to say was why would Buffalo not build around Myers if you think he's going to be a superstar in the next two or three years? After all, teams are clamoring for a franchise defenseman, and Myers--in your estimate, is one of those guys. So why would Buffalo be so foolish to trade him away?

Care to elaborate..... your wtf answer made me read your post and go ''WTF''
- Chris48

come back with a reasonable offer

I think our Flyers are closer than a lot of people think to being a serious contender. I hope they stick with the direction they're going and sign free agents in the offseason, instead of trading some of their young core players. There's a lot of impact free agent defensemen on the market this summer. Imagine this... Meszaros signs elsewhere, Timonen retires, and they don't bring back Downie. The Flyers sign Mike Green, and Matt Greene from the Kings. They sign either Thomas Vanek or Matt Moulson. That's adding a top line scorer and two defensemen. That's not unreasonable to expect in my opinion. Especially for the Flyers. Players wanna play her and they have a history of being aggressive in free agency. Look at next year's lineup with just a couple free agent signings added to the current squad...

Vanek-Giroux-Simmonds
Lecavalier-Schenn-Voracek
Hartnell-Couturier-Read
Raffl-Laughton-Rinaldo
Coburn-Mike Green
Streit-Matt Greene
Gustafsson-Schenn
Mason

To me, it makes a lot more sense to stay the course and improve through the draft and free agency. If they do, they'll be contenders as early as next season.

First of all, the current GM is Tim Murray who has made several moves that have put the Sabres potentially in a nice spot with regards to draft picks.

Regier was the previous GM who was not able to sign players to long term deals because of ownership, not because he was dumb. You do realize that the Sabres just got new ownership in the past two years, right? He's a Penn State guy with a lot of money.

Secondly, I've never suggested Tyler Myers is going to be a superstar. You said that. What I was trying to say was why would Buffalo not build around Myers if you think he's going to be a superstar in the next two or three years? After all, teams are clamoring for a franchise defenseman, and Myers--in your estimate, is one of those guys. So why would Buffalo be so foolish to trade him away?
- KGBflyers10

I'm aware of Pegula is the new owner. Regier was there too long and waited too long to extend contracts. He lost way too many key guys by letting them hit the free agency.

My reasoning for the trade benefits in my opion BOTH the flyers and sabres.
Myers is UFA in 5 years. The sabres are going to start possibly making noise at that time. So instead or possibly losing Myers to UFA in 5 years, why not trade him for young highly touted prospects (Laughton - Morin) according to scouting reports. Those guys will still be RFA's by the time Buffalo start to be really competitive VS Myers just playing for a non playoff team for X amount of years and getting closer to free agency.

The flyers getting Tyler now without touching core players will make us probably serious contenders in a couple years. Hartnell, Streit, Vinny, getting old quickly.
Schenn 1, Schenn 2, Gus, Couts gaining experience and skill and contributing substantially more with time.

Basically paying more now to win sooner and Buffalo getting highly skilled guys to win later.

I think our Flyers are closer than a lot of people think to being a serious contender. I hope they stick with the direction they're going and sign free agents in the offseason, instead of trading some of their young core players. There's a lot of impact free agent defensemen on the market this summer. Imagine this... Meszaros signs elsewhere, Timonen retires, and they don't bring back Downie. The Flyers sign Mike Green, and Matt Greene from the Kings. They sign either Thomas Vanek or Matt Moulson. That's adding a top line scorer and two defensemen. That's not unreasonable to expect in my opinion. Especially for the Flyers. Players wanna play her and they have a history of being aggressive in free agency. Look at next year's lineup with just a couple free agent signings added to the current squad...

Vanek-Giroux-Simmonds
Lecavalier-Schenn-Voracek
Hartnell-Couturier-Read
Raffl-Laughton-Rinaldo
Coburn-Mike Green
Streit-Matt Greene
Gustafsson-Schenn
Mason

To me, it makes a lot more sense to stay the course and improve through the draft and free agency. If they do, they'll be contenders as early as next season.
- TonyBazz

i'd love to use timonen money to get vanek and find a way to get rid of hartnell

i'd love to use timonen money to get vanek and find a way to get rid of hartnell
- 2Real

Your lost buddy... wow .... lose kimmo ? Like we need more offense than D.
Get rid of Lecavalier before Hartsy ????

Do you watch the games ?????

I'm aware of Pegula is the new owner. Regier was there too long and waited too long to extend contracts. He lost way too many key guys by letting them hit the free agency.

My reasoning for the trade benefits in my opion BOTH the flyers and sabres.
Myers is UFA in 5 years. The sabres are going to start possibly making noise at that time. So instead or possibly losing Myers to UFA in 5 years, why not trade him for young highly touted prospects (Laughton - Morin) according to scouting reports. Those guys will still be RFA's by the time Buffalo start to be really competitive VS Myers just playing for a non playoff team for X amount of years and getting closer to free agency.

The flyers getting Tyler now without touching core players will make us probably serious contenders in a couple years. Hartnell, Streit, Vinny, getting old quickly.
Schenn 1, Schenn 2, Gus, Couts gaining experience and skill and contributing substantially more with time.

Basically paying more now to win sooner and Buffalo getting highly skilled guys to win later.
- Chris48

Look, my whole point is that you're overvaluing Tyler Myers. He's not going be a superstar. He's a good player, but he's young and has to work out the kinks. Whether or not he'll do it is another story.

I don't think he's going to be a superstar in the time frame one day. Is it possible? Sure. But it's also possible he doesn't bloom until he's 30 years old.

From a Flyers stand point, he's not the impact defenseman they should be trading key assets for--that includes Morin, Laughton, and the 1st rounder.

i'd love to use timonen money to get vanek and find a way to get rid of hartnell
- 2Real

Vanek would score a ton of goals with Giroux. He's one of the guys I wanna see Holmgren go after the most. I think Mike Green would be a good signing too. Those are my two biggest offseason wishes.

Vanek would score a ton of goals with Giroux. He's one of the guys I wanna see Holmgren go after the most. I think Mike Green would be a good signing too. Those are my two biggest offseason wishes.
- TonyBazz

Vanek yes, but everyone knows he hits FA and signs with Min.

Mike Green is not the answer on D.

Your lost buddy... wow .... lose kimmo ? Like we need more offense than D.
Get rid of Lecavalier before Hartsy ????

Do you watch the games ?????
- Chris48

It's pretty obvious Timonen is gone after this season. You can talk about getting rid of Lecavalier and/or Hartnell, but they both have no movement clauses. They're most likely here until their contracts expire.

come back with a reasonable offer
- 2Real

Kesler for Coots+

Vanek yes, but everyone knows he hits FA and signs with Min.

Mike Green is not the answer on D.
- Chris48

He's not a lock to sign with Minnesota at all. They already have a top line LW, (Parise). Mike Green isn't the answer, but he would fill a lot of needs, especially if Timonen isn't back next year. You don't think a right handed, puck moving, hard hitting defenseman would be a good signing? Please...

Kesler for Coots+
- Nucker101

- KGBflyers10

Your boy Dixon just traded him for Justin "can't play defense" Schultz

Look, my whole point is that you're overvaluing Tyler Myers. He's not going be a superstar. He's a good player, but he's young and has to work out the kinks. Whether or not he'll do it is another story.

I don't think he's going to be a superstar in the time frame one day. Is it possible? Sure. But it's also possible he doesn't bloom until he's 30 years old.

From a Flyers stand point, he's not the impact defenseman they should be trading key assets for--that includes Morin, Laughton, and the 1st rounder.
- KGBflyers10

We both don't know if Myers is part of that big piece Philly is missing. I think so, you don't, that's fine. We need quality D, everyone knows that. Some of our key guys are aging and we have to understand that there is a certain window of time your can really be a threat and win the big trophy. With a trade like this, we keep our core guys and we get a big piece. Is it risky ? yes. But with Streit and Vinny at 11M per for 9 years combined, the GM seems to love risk and gambling. We keep our core guys that keep evolving and if you ask anyone that really knows hockey, if Myers was on the block publicly, 29 teams would be calling.

Look, my whole point is that you're overvaluing Tyler Myers. He's not going be a superstar. He's a good player, but he's young and has to work out the kinks. Whether or not he'll do it is another story.

I don't think he's going to be a superstar in the time frame one day. Is it possible? Sure. But it's also possible he doesn't bloom until he's 30 years old.

From a Flyers stand point, he's not the impact defenseman they should be trading key assets for--that includes Morin, Laughton, and the 1st rounder.
- KGBflyers10

BY THE TIME MORIN IS 30 LIKE MYERS YOU SAY, GIROUX WILL BE 37 YEARS OLD YOU DONK

We both don't know if Myers is part of that big piece Philly is missing. I think so, you don't, that's fine. We need quality D, everyone knows that. Some of our key guys are aging and we have to understand that there is a certain window of time your can really be a threat and win the big trophy. With a trade like this, we keep our core guys and we get a big piece. Is it risky ? yes. But with Streit and Vinny at 11M per for 9 years combined, the GM seems to love risk and gambling. We keep our core guys that keep evolving and if you ask anyone that really knows hockey, if Myers was on the block publicly, 29 teams would be calling.
- Chris48

Myers is on the block. Buffalo isn't happy with him.

If Myers was this great defenseman you think he is, Buffalo would make him untouchable and have him just go through the motions of growing pains.

That's no the case.