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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Day: Feb 28 vs Minnesota, Kesler Denies Rumour
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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Pretty promising stats for a 21 year old, though.
- Fosco


Absolutely. Especially with that roster.

He would do some serious damage playing behind the twins.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Kuemper With a Shutty last night. Thanks again bud
- vancity787


No problem. And you thought I was taking advantage of you.

I'm probably gonna regret trading him to you. Especially if MIN doesn't pick up a goaltender at the TDL. Kuemper is really all they got right now and they are still in the playoffs.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Because I have always been a Cody fan. Or are u saying one or the other has to be a franchise player.
- Bieksa#3


Nope. I'm saying that Johansen is just a great young player and the stats back it up. A big center with that skill and all-around ability is a franchise player in my eyes.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
I believe there are about 20 franchise players in the league. Not 75
- Bieksa#3


I don't think Nucker was suggesting he is a franchise player.

But based on his play he could be trending in that direction.

Too early to tell.

Either way, the kid's a stud.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
I don't think Nucker was suggesting he is a franchise player.

But based on his play he could be trending in that direction.

Too early to tell.

Either way, the kid's a stud.

- Fosco

He said he is a franchise player I believe
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
Absolutely. Especially with that roster.

He would do some serious damage playing behind the twins.

- fiveandagame

You mean the roster that is 6th in goals. Boy that would suck
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
Easy now.

I wasn't referring to him at all.

I know he was a fan when Samuelsson was here, but I can't recall his opinion about him since he's left.

There have been much more recent posts calling for the Canucks to get him back, and those are what I was referring to.

- Fosco


Oh, ok. Booner wasn't (isn't) as pro Samuelsson as he was anti Booth in that trade, I just thought that's what you were referring to.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
I don't think Nucker was suggesting he is a franchise player.

But based on his play he could be trending in that direction.

Too early to tell.

Either way, the kid's a stud.

- Fosco


Well, I guess it depends on your definition. I'd like to see him finish the season at the same level of play before saying so for sure. He looks like a lock to me right now to develop into that.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
Not surprising. The haters must be baffled.
- Nucker101

Old, broken down player, clearly regressing. Most I'd do is a pick and B-prospect.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
He said he is a franchise player I believe
- Bieksa#3


He said "gonna be a franchise player for the next decade."

Pretty ambiguous whether he meant now or in the future.

But it doesn't really matter.

He's already a stud and a top-6 player at 21, whether he reaches "franchise" status or not.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Feb 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
That's terrible. You heard Mackenzie talk about what Vancouver can expect in return
- Bieksa#3

I don't think it is terrible.

Kesler for Stewart, Prospect (A level) and a conditional first. To make it better make that first for 2015

Lou for Halak.

We need to shed Salary and retool. This trade will give us a goalie for 3-4 seasons till Lack is comfortable as starter. We get a top 6 winger that scores and top prospect plus a 1st rd pick.

We shed 10+ mil and buy out Booth and that is close to 15 mil to sign Halak and a second line center. Don't forget we have Gaunce and Jensen to make the jump next year and Bo + Shink in 2 years. It makes sense.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
Well, I guess it depends on your definition. I'd like to see him finish the season at the same level of play before saying so for sure. He looks like a lock to me right now to develop into that.
- Nucker101

So u are retracting your statement that he is a "franchise player, no doubt
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
I don't think it is terrible.

Kesler for Stewart, Prospect (A level) and a conditional first. To make it better make that first for 2015

Lou for Halak.

We need to shed Salary and retool. This trade will give us a goalie for 3-4 seasons till Lack is comfortable as starter. We get a top 6 winger that scores and top prospect plus a 1st rd pick.

We shed 10+ mil and buy out Booth and that is close to 15 mil to sign Halak and a second line center. Don't forget we have Gaunce and Jensen to make the jump next year and Bo + Shink in 2 years. It makes sense.

- Linden_4_Capt


Blues fans are running Stewart out of town.

Very little value.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
Nope. I'm saying that Johansen is just a great young player and the stats back it up. A big center with that skill and all-around ability is a franchise player in my eyes.
- Nucker101

Mikko Koivu?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
Oh, ok. Booner wasn't (isn't) as pro Samuelsson as he was anti Booth in that trade, I just thought that's what you were referring to.
- 1970vintage


Nope. I have no need to.

But no problem, regardless
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
He said "gonna be a franchise player for the next decade."

Pretty ambiguous whether he meant now or in the future.

But it doesn't really matter.

He's already a stud and a top-6 player at 21, whether he reaches "franchise" status or not.

- Fosco

He said he is a "franchise player, no doubt" to be exact
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
Blues fans are running Stewart out of town.

Very little value.

- Fosco


Lots of teams still like him. Fans have minimal impact on a players value.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
I don't think it is terrible.

Kesler for Stewart, Prospect (A level) and a conditional first. To make it better make that first for 2015

Lou for Halak.

We need to shed Salary and retool. This trade will give us a goalie for 3-4 seasons till Lack is comfortable as starter. We get a top 6 winger that scores and top prospect plus a 1st rd pick.

We shed 10+ mil and buy out Booth and that is close to 15 mil to sign Halak and a second line center. Don't forget we have Gaunce and Jensen to make the jump next year and Bo + Shink in 2 years. It makes sense.

- Linden_4_Capt

You need quality not quantity when dealing a kesler. That deal sets/Vancouver back big time and helps them little in the future
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
You mean the roster that is 6th in goals. Boy that would suck
- Bieksa#3


Yeah, that one. The one where Johansen leads the team in scoring by 10 points.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
He said he is a "franchise player, no doubt" to be exact
- Bieksa#3


I must have missed that one. This is the only one I saw:

I don't think Johansen is going anywhere. I'd do that deal straight up or add to Kesler for him, he's gonna be a franchise player for the next decade.
- Nucker101

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
Lots of teams still like him. Fans have minimal impact on a players value.
- Jeropotato

Really you need to read a few more comment sections around here
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yeah, that one. The one where Johansen leads the team in scoring by 10 points.
- fiveandagame

So his roster is load with offensive depth so he's amazing?
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
Of the 3 teams (DET, PIT, PHI) that are supposed to be serious, I think DET would be willing to offer up the most

I'd like to see Nyguist, Sheahan, and Mantha (or a 2015 1st rounder)

Word is out there that Kesler should net a good return. MG better not (frank) this up!
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Feb 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
You need quality not quantity when dealing a kesler. That deal sets/Vancouver back big time and helps them little in the future
- Bieksa#3


If Kesler gets traded the Canucks would need a center in return. There is no way Schroeder can be the 2nd line center. No guarantees that Gaunce or Horvat can make the jump next year either. That is why guys like Schenn and Johanson look good right now.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
So his roster is load with offensive depth so he's amazing?
- Bieksa#3


Dubinsky? Anisimov?

Gaborik just got back.

I haven't really checked, but I thought they were fairly thin up front.

EDIT: Just looked.

Yeah, their offense is decent. Johansen is clearly the best of the bunch, though.

Lots of depth guys having career years.
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