Fosco
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I don't think Johansen is going anywhere. I'd do that deal straight up or add to Kesler for him, he's gonna be a franchise player for the next decade. - Nucker101
Yup.
Not a heck of a lot. But something of value, sure. |
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Bieksa#3
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I don't think Johansen is going anywhere. I'd do that deal straight up or add to Kesler for him, he's gonna be a franchise player for the next decade. - Nucker101
Give your head a shake. He's far far to one dimensional to be a franchise player |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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Give your head a shake. He's far far to one dimensional to be a franchise player - Bieksa#3
I haven't researched the advanced stats to see if this is true, but one of the more reliable posters on HF claimed that Johansen has actually had harder matchups than Kesler this season.
Again, I haven't checked.
But I wouldn't call him one dimensional, whether he's elite defensively or not. |
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89_hockey
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Kesler and Tanev to Montreal for Subban and Gallagher. - hillbillydeluxe
Pierre McGuire just said don't discount the Habs in the Kes sweepstakes |
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Bieksa#3
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Yup.
Not a heck of a lot. But something of value, sure. - Fosco
I've said this early in the season and will say it again. Johansson will never be a franchise player.A shoot 1st center who is awful in his own end. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Pierre McGuire just said don't discount the Habs in the Kes sweepstakes  - 89_hockey
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fiveandagame
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Location: BC Joined: 05.06.2010
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Galcheynck  - Bieksa#3
Galcheynck, Gallagher and Subban for Kesler, Edler and Burrows. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Give your head a shake. He's far far to one dimensional to be a franchise player - Bieksa#3
1. He plays the toughest minutes on the team(most amount of defensive zone starts and against other top 6 lines quite a bit).
2. Despite those tough minutes, he's 3rd-best among forwards on the team in possession.
3. He's 5th on the team in terms of goals against per 60 minutes played at ES.
4. He averages 2.5 points per 60 minutes of ES this year. The highest Canuck is way behind, Chris Higgins at 2.03.
5. Oh, and he's 21 years old. Plenty of time to improve intangibles/defense.
The guy is a stud and franchise player, no doubt. |
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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks |
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Pierre McGuire just said don't discount the Habs in the Kes sweepstakes  - 89_hockey
Seems like half the league has inquired about Kesler. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I haven't researched the advanced stats to see if this is true, but one of the more reliable posters on HF claimed that Johansen has actually had harder matchups than Kesler this season.
Again, I haven't checked.
But I wouldn't call him one dimensional, whether he's elite defensively or not. - Fosco
Posted above, I'll take the stats over the opinions on this one. He might have been below average in the past, but he' s just fine right now. He's only 21. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Meh, some Canucks fans still have booners for the guy... - Fosco
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Seems like half the league has inquired about Kesler. - nucks_94
Not surprising. The haters must be baffled. |
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Bieksa#3
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1. He plays the toughest minutes on the team(most amount of defensive zone starts and against other top 6 lines quite a bit).
2. Despite those tough minutes, he's 3rd-best among forwards on the team in possession.
3. He's 5th on the team in terms of goals against per 60 minutes played at ES.
4. He averages 2.5 points per 60 minutes of ES this year. The highest Canuck is way behind, Chris Higgins at 2.03.
5. Oh, and he's 21 years old. Plenty of time to improve intangibles/defense.
The guy is a stud and franchise player, no doubt. - Nucker101
I believe there are about 20 franchise players in the league. Not 75 |
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fiveandagame
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Location: BC Joined: 05.06.2010
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Hodgson? |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I believe there are about 20 franchise players in the league. Not 75 - Bieksa#3
We'll have to disagree. And how again do any of those numbers make him bad defensively? Not many 21 year olds even come close to that type of play. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Hodgson?  - fiveandagame
Johansen>>>Hodgson |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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 - 1970vintage
Easy now.
I wasn't referring to him at all.
I know he was a fan when Samuelsson was here, but I can't recall his opinion about him since he's left.
There have been much more recent posts calling for the Canucks to get him back, and those are what I was referring to. |
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fiveandagame
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Location: BC Joined: 05.06.2010
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Johansen>>>Hodgson - Nucker101
Depends on who you ask. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Depends on who you ask.  - fiveandagame
Clearly not Bieksa#3. |
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Fosco
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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I believe there are about 20 franchise players in the league. Not 75 - Bieksa#3
Pretty promising stats for a 21 year old, though. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Johansen>>>Hodgson - Nucker101
Bozak>Hodgson. I guess he's franchise too |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Bozak>Hodgson. I guess he's franchise too  - Bieksa#3
That wasn't my only argument. |
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I believe there are about 20 franchise players in the league. Not 75 - Bieksa#3
100% Bubba. You are the real. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Clearly not Bieksa#3.  - Nucker101
Because I have always been a Cody fan. Or are u saying one or the other has to be a franchise player. |
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