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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Sweeping the Blues But More Importantly: Kesler!
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PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:44 PM ET
If he's going to Chicago, I want Saad back. So not likely to happen.
- hertzman


Interesting few days ahead.I would not be opposed to that deal if Kessler wasn't hurt so much. Back in 2011 he was one of the best two way players in the League...

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:44 PM ET
Ship him to Tampa, i want Connolly
- Whiskey-Tango


I bet you wouldn't if he wasn't from B.C. I'm not on board with trading Kesler for a bunch of hopefuls, as promising as they may be. I'd prefer a young player who's shown at least some ability to be effective in the NHL to be part of the return.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
Interesting few days ahead.I would not be opposed to that deal if Kessler wasn't hurt so much. Back in 2011 he was one of the best two way players in the League...
- PEIHawkFan



He won't get traded at the TDL, draft is much more likely for him and Edler.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
Teams that will value Kesler the most (and will likely give up more than others to get him) will be teams that are legitimate contenders, looking for extra centre depth for cup runs over the next 3 seasons, or a team like Columbus who might think Kesler could put them over the hump and get them into the playoffs, and help generate some extra revenue.
- nucks_94


Agreed. Kesler would only waive for a a decent-sized American market anyways IMO.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:47 PM ET
Teams that will value Kesler the most (and will likely give up more than others to get him) will be teams that are legitimate contenders, looking for extra centre depth for cup runs over the next 3 seasons, or a team like Columbus who might think Kesler could put them over the hump and get them into the playoffs, and help generate some extra revenue.
- nucks_94


Kesler and RJ umberger were room mates and hate each other.... cross that destination off.....
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
Edler looked good with Karlsson in the Olympics.

I'd consider Kesler + Tanev for Karlsson.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
I believe whatever anyone reports in "print". If its written down it must be true
- 1970vintage

Totally
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:49 PM ET
He won't get traded at the TDL, draft is much more likely for him and Edler.
- Nucker101

I disagree. If you're the team trading for Kes, would you rather have him for 3 playoff runs or 2? The Canucks have the cap room to take a contract back from the team to make the cap work for them now. I think his maximum value is right now, and I think they should trade him now (I never really thought that I would say that...)
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
Gagner is still only 24 and had a lights out year last year. Season got derailed this year cause of the injury but last half of the season he has picked it up susbstantially
- creidwx2


Yeah....that's never happening. Kesler wouldn't waive to go to Edmonton.

nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 27 @ 3:53 PM ET
Kesler and RJ umberger were room mates and hate each other.... cross that destination off.....
- SMP8719

It was just an example. Teams like Phoenix, Dallas, Minnesota, Washington, Carolina, Tampa etc would also fit the bill.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:53 PM ET
Haters ragging on Kesler's value. Gotta love it.

Erat got Forsberg for nashville.... Erat.... Ya Kesler couldn't get Kadri...He's clearly only worth Sutter and a 2nd...

- 89_hockey


I get where you're coming from but I hate comparing past trades where in hindsight someone got raped. Similar to when guys justify giving someone a bad contract because they are better than player x that has a worse contract.

If he was truly being shopped? Its hard to say what the return would be. Could be picks and high end prospects? Could be a one for one but rarely happens.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Feb 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Edler looked good with Karlsson in the Olympics.

I'd consider Kesler + Tanev for Karlsson.

- Scooby_Doo


I just want to hear Murray say Kesler's name.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Kesler and RJ umberger were room mates and hate each other.... cross that destination off.....
- SMP8719


Kesler has enemies around the League. Weber, Umberger, Phanuef among others.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
I get where you're coming from but I hate comparing past trades where in hindsight someone got raped. Similar to when guys justify giving someone a bad contract because they are better than player x that has a worse contract.

If he was truly being shopped? Its hard to say what the return would be. Could be picks and high end prospects? Could be a one for one but rarely happens.

- Iggysbff


Washington definitely got raped in that Erat trade... and won't get much if they try and re-trade!!
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 27 @ 3:56 PM ET
Kesler has enemies around the League. Weber, Umberger, Phanuef among others.
- Iggysbff



Well I dont know the exact history.... but I heard it was pretty bad..... not a hockey rivalry.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 27 @ 3:59 PM ET




Love it

- Whiskey-Tango

nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
I just want to hear Murray say Kesler's name.
- hertzman



"Keshler"
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
Teams that will value Kesler the most (and will likely give up more than others to get him) will be teams that are legitimate contenders, looking for extra centre depth for cup runs over the next 3 seasons, or a team like Columbus who might think Kesler could put them over the hump and get them into the playoffs, and help generate some extra revenue.
- nucks_94


Many teams could use Kesler but agree that it would the SC contenders that would see most value in acquiring his services IMO. Kesler's already been showcased as an effective winger, so the dual eligibility gives him added value.

The question, as always, is what would they be willing to give in return.

I keep revisiting MIN as option given that it's close to his home state of Michigan, they're a team on the rise with a good mix of vets and youth, and they may have the youthful assets to get a "hockey trade" done.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:07 PM ET
I disagree. If you're the team trading for Kes, would you rather have him for 3 playoff runs or 2? The Canucks have the cap room to take a contract back from the team to make the cap work for them now. I think his maximum value is right now, and I think they should trade him now (I never really thought that I would say that...)
- nucks_94


This is Mike Gillis we're talking about. Glaciers move quicker.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 27 @ 4:10 PM ET
Washington definitely got raped in that Erat trade... and won't get much if they try and re-trade!!
- SMP8719


That trade should have been veto'd

I look forward to whether or not Kesler meets with the media today. Someone pointed out Kesler's Twitter page: No mention of the Canucks whatsoever, just his American Olympic stuff and says "Offical Twitter Page of Ryan Kesler"
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 27 @ 4:13 PM ET
Many teams could use Kesler but agree that it would the SC contenders that would see most value in acquiring his services IMO. Kesler's already been showcased as an effective winger, so the dual eligibility gives him added value.

The question, as always, is what would they be willing to give in return.

I keep revisiting MIN as option given that it's close to his home state of Michigan, they're a team on the rise with a good mix of vets and youth, and they may have the youthful assets to get a "hockey trade" done.

- AlexF


Not to mention 2 fellow American Olympians in Suter and Parise that are considered elite players. I think Kesler would waive to go there in a heartbeat.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Kesler's media availability summary:

-Has never asked for a trade
-His heart is in Van, his son was born here, he wants to make the playoffs with this group
-Has never been asked to waive his no trade clause
-Doesn't want to be asked about it anymore, or his teammates to be asked about it. Too much of a distraction.
-Excited for heritage classic
-Hand is feeling better than expected. May play tomorrow


Luongo: Even if he wanted to be traded, he wouldn't be
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Feb 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
What about Kes to Ana for Etem, a 1st & a 2nd?
strombone
Location: not sure yet
Joined: 07.05.2012

Feb 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
Not to mention 2 fellow American Olympians in Suter and Parise that are considered elite players. I think Kesler would waive to go there in a heartbeat.
- Chest Rockwell


Canucks wouldn't want to deal him within the conf unless there's a piece like Granlund. You have to remember Minny's window is going to close soon. Parise and Suter only have 10+ years left.

Blue Jackets won't part with Johannson and if they would, it's a no brainer.
Wings are a good target if Edler is added to the deal and they have some interesting pieces.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:27 PM ET
Interesting few days ahead.I would not be opposed to that deal if Kessler wasn't hurt so much. Back in 2011 he was one of the best two way players in the League...
- PEIHawkFan


The reason why he gets hurt so much is that he plays the most minutes out of any forward in the NHL (this year anyway). 22:13 average. Add that to the fact that the canucks have the toughest schedule in the NHL, the guy simply doesn't have a chance.
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