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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
Not to keen on Spezza, not what our team needs and is too expensive.

I'd be asking for Zibanejad, Lazar, and Neil if I were MG.

- Chest Rockwell

Agree 100 %
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:01 PM ET
Not to keen on Spezza, not what our team needs and is too expensive.

I'd be asking for Zibanejad, Lazar, and Neil if I were MG.

- Chest Rockwell


Spezza is exactly what this team needs—another elite, skilled centre, who is great on the PP.

Could have him centre the 2nd line, and push Kesler to the wing.

His age and injury history aren't ideal, but it's not like he's too old, either.

I doubt you'd get Lazar alone for Edler—OTT are ridiculously high on him.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yeah, I think Garrison should be getting just as much of the blame, everyone seems fixated on Edler alone but Garrison has been underwhelming this season as well. Ideally, Garrison wouldn't have a NTC and would be moved, I'd prefer to keep Edler. But that's to happening. I'll be pissed if Tanev is moved, smart move is to lock him up long-term as part of the "re-tool".
- Nucker101


Yeah, Garrison was more consistent last season. I think either he or Edler have to get traded either at the TDL or around the draft. I'd prefer it was Garrison too. Tanev should be sticking around, but that might depend on whether they can move one of the "top 4."
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
(frank)ing snow is gonna make it a nightmare to drive today
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
Yeah, Garrison was more consistent last season. I think either he or Edler have to get traded either at the TDL or around the draft. I'd prefer it was Garrison too. Tanev should be sticking around, but that might depend on whether they can move one of the "top 4."
- KB3Point0


You get my PM?
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:12 PM ET
(frank)ing snow is gonna make it a nightmare to drive today
- Nucker101


Depends on where you're going. If you're heading downtown, most roads are clear. If you're heading towards the valley you're (frank)ed; pack dinner.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:12 PM ET
Not to keen on Spezza, not what our team needs and is too expensive.

I'd be asking for Zibanejad, Lazar, and Neil if I were MG.

- Chest Rockwell



You're either grossly underrated Lazar/Zibanejad or overrating Edler in that proposal. I'd be pretty happy to get either of them in an Edler trade. Asking for both is not gonna happen. And as Fosco id, Lazar is like Horvat to them, not going anywhere. The Sens also use advanced stats pretty heavily so I doubt they'd do Zibanejad for Edler straight up either.

No thanks to Spezza, he's lost a step, has a big cap hit and only a year left on his deal. The Spezza from 2 years ago I'd be all over for Edler+ .
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:13 PM ET
Depends on where you're going. If you're heading downtown, most roads are clear. If you're heading towards the valley you're (frank)ed; pack dinner.
- Chest Rockwell



It's not just the conditions though, some of the drivers, especially the one's in crappy cars with crappy tires are the worst.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 23 @ 4:17 PM ET
(frank)ing snow is gonna make it a nightmare to drive today
- Nucker101

We're getting hammered here in Victoria, but it's +2 so it won't last long.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:22 PM ET
It's not just the conditions though, some of the drivers, especially the one's in crappy cars with crappy tires are the worst.
- Nucker101


Trust me, I know. I work in Richmond; it's scary at the best of times!
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:23 PM ET
You're either grossly underrated Lazar/Zibanejad or overrating Edler in that proposal. I'd be pretty happy to get either of them in an Edler trade. Asking for both is not gonna happen. And as Fosco id, Lazar is like Horvat to them, not going anywhere. The Sens also use advanced stats pretty heavily so I doubt they'd do Zibanejad for Edler straight up either.

No thanks to Spezza, he's lost a step, has a big cap hit and only a year left on his deal. The Spezza from 2 years ago I'd be all over for Edler+ .

- Nucker101


Yeah, Spezza's age and contract status aren't ideal, but he's still a legitimate top-line producer.

Something involving Turris would likely be the most feasible—I think they'd move him before Zibanejad.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:26 PM ET
You're either grossly underrated Lazar/Zibanejad or overrating Edler in that proposal. I'd be pretty happy to get either of them in an Edler trade. Asking for both is not gonna happen. And as Fosco id, Lazar is like Horvat to them, not going anywhere. The Sens also use advanced stats pretty heavily so I doubt they'd do Zibanejad for Edler straight up either.

No thanks to Spezza, he's lost a step, has a big cap hit and only a year left on his deal. The Spezza from 2 years ago I'd be all over for Edler+ .

- Nucker101


Fair Enough, I'd be happy with Lazar and Neil for Edler. That would be some added grit that our team desperately needs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 4:26 PM ET
Yeah, Spezza's age and contract status aren't ideal, but he's still a legitimate top-line producer.

Something involving Turris would likely be the most feasible—I think they'd move him before Zibanejad.

- Fosco

Gillis could have had Turis before he moved to Ott, I don't think he will push hard to get him now at the cost of Edler.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:32 PM ET
Gillis could have had Turis before he moved to Ott, I don't think he will push hard to get him now at the cost of Edler.
- VANTEL


We don't know this.

Turris was available for a price, but that is far from "Gillis could have had him."

That's like saying he could have had every player that's available—doesn't factor in that asking prices are different from different teams, or that PHO might have preferred to deal him out of conference.

The Canucks looked pretty set at C at the time, as well.

At the time Turris was unproven and still went for Rundblad +, who was widely considered the best D prospect in the league, and the best D not playing in the NHL.

Now Turris is a legitimate top-6 producer.

Turris also had some "baggage," and we all know Gillis was already dealing with similar "baggage."
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 4:55 PM ET
Turris also had some "baggage," and we all know Gillis was already dealing with similar "baggage."
- Fosco


MG should have traded Hodgson for Turris.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
MG should have traded Hodgson for Turris.
- Chest Rockwell


If I remember correctly, there were rumours that he was one of the pieces PHO wanted.

Price was probably too steep.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 6:28 PM ET
So... what NHL teams make the first move after the trade freeze is lifted at midnight tonight? I'm thinking the Gagner trade goes down first, to who I don't know.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
So... what NHL teams make the first move after the trade freeze is lifted at midnight tonight? I'm thinking the Gagner trade goes down first, to who I don't know.
- Chest Rockwell

Midnight Eastern?
Pittsburg

Or Ov for Daniel
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 6:47 PM ET
Midnight Eastern?
Pittsburg

Or Ov for Daniel

- VANTEL


I think it is midnight eastern.

You could be right about Pittsburgh, I don't Edmonton is dumb enough to trade him to LA for what the return was rumoured to be.

As for Ov for Daniel, we'd be getting ripped off! Daniel outscored OV at the Olympics and played with more heart. OV had nice designer skates again this Olympics so he had that going for him, I guess.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 23 @ 6:50 PM ET
I think it is midnight eastern.

You could be right about Pittsburgh, I don't Edmonton is dumb enough to trade him to LA for what the return was rumoured to be.

- Chest Rockwell


Pitts is also rumoured to have interest in Hemsky.

I think they'll be busy before the tdl.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
I think it is midnight eastern.

You could be right about Pittsburgh, I don't Edmonton is dumb enough to trade him to LA for what the return was rumoured to be.

As for Ov for Daniel, we'd be getting ripped off! Daniel outscored OV at the Olympics and played with more heart. OV had nice designer skates again this Olympics so he had that going for him, I guess.

- Chest Rockwell

I thought that too.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:08 PM ET
Pitts is also rumoured to have interest in Hemsky.

I think they'll be busy before the tdl.

- Fosco


Especially, if the outcome for Letang isn't pretty. Edler and Hansen for Bennett, Sutter, and Harrington?
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:46 PM ET
Great game!!! Spent the night downtown Van, finished off at Brandys at a Bachlor party Then Go watch Canada dominate at Malones...Only downside is no booze being served

SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:48 PM ET
So... what NHL teams make the first move after the trade freeze is lifted at midnight tonight? I'm thinking the Gagner trade goes down first, to who I don't know.
- Chest Rockwell



Islanders are going to sell.......
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:53 PM ET
Islanders are going to sell.......
- SMP8719


They'll be undersold on Vanek, no way they get what they gave up for him.

MacDonald could be a good rental for somebody, but apparently he turned down a 4 year/$16m offer from the Islanders

Buffalo should rake it in at the TDL
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