Kunitz! We all loved him all along!
- Nucker101

He did nothing but score a meaningless empty goal in the last game.

Neither Carter nor Nash based on their play the last year deserved to take a spot on Team Canada. Only morons believe that. Your lack of hockey IQ is showing.
- Oneonta Penguin

Do you mean Carter who was 4th in the NHL in goals last season or Nash who despite missing some games was 10th...? Or do you mean this season where Nash despite coming off of a concussion would be on pace for almost 40 goals and Carter who has 20 on a team that's struggling to score?

Good for Kunitz. He played a good tourney and showed he could play with the best of the best. Pittsburghers knew it and now those that watch hockey know that. or they don't. who actually cares. I know that I would take him and his decent salary over carter/nash/etc. crosby/kunitz, malkin/kunitz is the best in my eyes. So... I wanted to wait for the excitement to die down before expressing this.... but anyone else just absolutely let down by the olympics? maybe it was the big ice or the scared defensive style of play, but man was it underwhelming and even boring at times. it should have been what the all-star game should be but isn't. I am a distinctly less than patriotic person and couldn't really give 2 poops about what country won and maybe not having a team to really root for was part of my problem... but I couldn't care one bit about whether the olympics happen gain for the nhl for a long time. Go pens!

Really? Top 3? That would be a short argument. He isn't even top 5 in GAA or Save % in goalies with more than 20 starts. And that's if you juts go by stats from this season.
- thickman1178

Look at 40+ starts, 15 goalies have done it so far. A better indicator of the workhorse goalies.
3 have a better GAA
3 have a better SV%
Only Bishop and Rask are better in both categories.

Factor in how much Montreal sucks, you're looking at an elite goalie.

Kunitz was likely singled out because most hockey fans would take Nash, carter, marleau, St. Louis, giroux etc on their team over Kunitz.
- ystoil

But the issue is a guy like sharp is a 20g/ 50 point type player minus teows, Hossa ... Stats inflated by the team he plays on ... Kunitz is basically the same exact thing... Sharp got a free pass ...

But the issue is a guy like sharp is a 20g/ 50 point type player minus teows, Hossa ... Stats inflated by the team he plays on ... Kunitz is basically the same exact thing... Sharp got a free pass ...
- Brianandr1

Because Sharp has two cups in the last four years and Kunitz is a Penguin, and people generally hate the Penguins.

Because Sharp has two cups in the last four years and Kunitz is a Penguin, and people generally hate the Penguins.
- FinAddict

jealousy generally leads to hatred...

But the issue is a guy like sharp is a 20g/ 50 point type player minus teows, Hossa ... Stats inflated by the team he plays on ... Kunitz is basically the same exact thing... Sharp got a free pass ...
- Brianandr1

Sharp has scored 30 goals 4 times, never less than 25 and 66 points in the last 5 years. How do you say 20 goal 50 point type player? Lol

Kunitz is not on the same level, not a chance.

Sharp has scored 30 goals 4 times, never less than 25 and 66 points in the last 5 years. How do you say 20 goal 50 point type player? Lol

Kunitz is not on the same level, not a chance.
- Scooby_Doo

All with teows , Hossa and Kane!!!
Kunitz will have 30 plus 70 plus this year, had 27g last year in 48 games! ... That's basically 2 ... He s also won 2 cups and a gold metal, I don't think there's any jealously .... Point is sharp put up all those numbers playing with 3 of the top 15 forwards in hockey and one of the best 3-4 d men !!! That does not inflate his stats???? Free pass!!!if your going to call out Kunitz , point out last year/ this year 30 plus (prorated) ... Will get 30 plus this year

Sharp has scored 30 goals 4 times, never less than 25 and 66 points in the last 5 years. How do you say 20 goal 50 point type player? Lol

Kunitz is not on the same level, not a chance.
- Scooby_Doo

It's also amazingly coincidental that it's not just pens fans that realize how good Kunitz is , but fans of other teams that actually watch a lot of pens games... Amazing how people that watch the pens 6 times a year look at the stats and come to the conclusions you ve reached ... Maybe watch some more pens games ... Crosby does not make Kunitz ... They compliment each other.. Kunitz's physical presence (plays big) and work in the corners creates a lot of open space for Crosby et...

All with teows , Hossa and Kane!!!
Kunitz will have 30 plus 70 plus this year, had 27g last year in 48 games! ... That's basically 2 ... He s also won 2 cups and a gold metal, I don't think there's any jealously .... Point is sharp put up all those numbers playing with 3 of the top 15 forwards in hockey and one of the best 3-4 d men !!! That does not inflate his stats???? Free pass!!!if your going to point out Kunitz last year/ this year 30 plus (prorated) ... Will get 30 plus this year
- Brianandr1

he's baiting you bro. Your right, he knows it, he's just trolling you. Ease up on your keyboard before it wears out and you can't spell out Pens are number 1

he's baiting you bro. Your right, he knows it, he's just trolling you. Ease up on your keyboard before it wears out and you can't spell out Pens are number 1
- ChrisMS

Lol is it Thursday yet???

It's also amazingly coincidental that it's not just pens fans that realize how good Kunitz is , but fans of other teams that actually watch a lot of pens games... Amazing how people that watch the pens 6 times a year look at the stats and come to the conclusions you ve reached ... Maybe watch some more pens games ... Crosby does not make Kunitz ... They compliment each other.. Kunitz's physical presence (plays big) and work in the corners creates a lot of open space for Crosby et...
- Brianandr1

I think without Crosby, Kunitz is a 15-20 goal guy, 40-50 points. Solid nhl player, but not elite level. He was totally exposed during the Olympics, ask anyone who's not a pens fan.

2008-2009 was Toews first season. Sharp scored 36 in 2007-2008. Explain that how he scored his career high without Toews?

I think without Crosby, Kunitz is a 15-20 goal guy, 40-50 points. Solid nhl player, but not elite level. He was totally exposed during the Olympics, ask anyone who's not a pens fan.

2008-2009 was Toews first season. Sharp scored 36 in 2007-2008. Explain that how he scored his career high without Toews?
- Scooby_Doo

Kunitz is a 7 time 20 plus goal scorer. ... 2 of those seasons on the ducks, one with no Crosby and one with no Malkin or Crosby most of the season ... I believe he also scored 19 goals as a rookie ... That's 8 solid seasons ... With and without the pens stars...
Sharp 20 goal first season in chi...then jumps to 36 when teows shows up ... Hmm... Before that sharp bounced around for years on the flyers between the big club and the ahl... Almost all his big time stats with Chicago and it's stars ... Again why can't you just admit it inflates his stats...
Sharp is a better player... But that's not the point that was being made...

Kunitz is a 7 time 20 plus goal scorer. ... 2 of those seasons on the ducks, one with no Crosby and one with no Malkin or Crosby most of the season ... I believe he also scored 19 goals as a rookie ... That's 8 solid seasons ... With and without the pens stars...
Sharp 20 goal first season in chi...then jumps to 36 when teows shows up ... Hmm... Before that sharp bounced around for years on the flyers between the big club and the ahl... Almost all his big time stats with Chicago and it's stars ... Again why can't you just admit it inflates his stats...
Sharp is a better player... But that's not the point that was being made...
- Brianandr1

People outside of Pitt think Kunitz is an average player without Crosby, people in Pitt think Kunitz is great no matter who he plays with. Truth is he's somewhere in the middle.

It is quite funny how a Pens fan has the balls to call guys like Carter or Nash over rated yet talk about Kunitz like he is the reason Crosby is so good.

People outside of Pitt think Kunitz is an average player without Crosby, people in Pitt think Kunitz is great no matter who he plays with. Truth is he's somewhere in the middle.

It is quite funny how a Pens fan has the balls to call guys like Carter or Nash over rated yet talk about Kunitz like he is the reason Crosby is so good.
- sbroads24

Nash is a great player on a team that has issues scoring consistently.
Carter is a very good player, though you really need to ask how a really good player gets traded twice within a year.
No one here has said Kunitz is a great player ... What we ve said is he s a good / very good player that's not simply a product of Crosby, plays a very good all around game and deserved to make the Canadian Olympic team based on his play over the last two seasons.
No one here said Kunitz is better then sharp, Nash or St. Louis ... Giroux and hall are better players then Kunitz, most have acknowledged that ... But the point being made was a tournement mid season for two weeks Kunitz is a better fit.
The attacks by you and others on Kunitz have been below the belt at times and singles him out when others should have been singled out as well ( sharp)

Kunitz is a 7 time 20 plus goal scorer. ... 2 of those seasons on the ducks, one with no Crosby and one with no Malkin or Crosby most of the season ... I believe he also scored 19 goals as a rookie ... That's 8 solid seasons ... With and without the pens stars...
Sharp 20 goal first season in chi...then jumps to 36 when teows shows up ... Hmm... Before that sharp bounced around for years on the flyers between the big club and the ahl... Almost all his big time stats with Chicago and it's stars ... Again why can't you just admit it inflates his stats...
Sharp is a better player... But that's not the point that was being made...
- Brianandr1

He scored 36 the year before Toews showed up, nice try pal.

Nash is a great player on a team that has issues scoring consistently.
Carter is a very good player, though you really need to ask how a really good player gets traded twice within a year.
No one here has said Kunitz is a great player ... What we ve said is he s a good / very good player that's not simply a product of Crosby, plays a very good all around game and deserved to make the Canadian Olympic team based on his play over the last two seasons.
No one here said Kunitz is better then sharp, Nash or St. Louis ... Giroux and hall are better players then Kunitz, most have acknowledged that ... But the point being made was a tournement mid season for two weeks Kunitz is a better fit.
The attacks by you and others on Kunitz have been below the belt at times and singles him out when others should have been singled out as well ( sharp)
- Brianandr1

Good/very good players don't make this Canadian team on their own. End of Story.

He scored 36 the year before Toews showed up, nice try pal.
- Scooby_Doo

You sure about that?

Nash is a great player on a team that has issues scoring consistently.
Carter is a very good player, though you really need to ask how a really good player gets traded twice within a year.
No one here has said Kunitz is a great player ... What we ve said is he s a good / very good player that's not simply a product of Crosby, plays a very good all around game and deserved to make the Canadian Olympic team based on his play over the last two seasons.
No one here said Kunitz is better then sharp, Nash or St. Louis ... Giroux and hall are better players then Kunitz, most have acknowledged that ... But the point being made was a tournement mid season for two weeks Kunitz is a better fit.
The attacks by you and others on Kunitz have been below the belt at times and singles him out when others should have been singled out as well ( sharp)
- Brianandr1

I don't hate Kunitz. I actually don't hate the Pens at all. I root for them in the post season when the Sabres are done. I think everyone recognizes that Kunitz is a good player, maybe even very good. However there are probably many players who have the résumé to be on team Canada ahead of Kunitz, the X factor in this has always been 87.

I don't hate Kunitz. I actually don't hate the Pens at all. I root for them in the post season when the Sabres are done. I think everyone recognizes that Kunitz is a good player, maybe even very good. However there are probably many players who have the résumé to be on team Canada ahead of Kunitz, the X factor in this has always been 87.
- sbroads24

There were plenty more talented players available for Canada to pick over Kunitz for sure. I don't think anyone is saying that Kunitz is a better player than others that were left off. But Kunitz plays a different role than some of those other players and does it really well. Having seen every Pens game this year, I can appreciate what he brings to the lineup every night. He isn't the sexy name, he is a straight forward player that plays a role and maybe that is what TC was looking for over skill.

I think that 90% of the annoying posters who are complaining about Kunitz are jealous.

I mean think of it. You are an NHL'er. You are good enough to be a 40-50 point player and then WHAMMO! You get traded to the Penguins. Where they try you on a line with Crosby and all of a sudden he dominating the NHL so they keep you there and you start putting up career numbers that are doubling your previous bests. You win a cup, you start earning millions, you get named to the Olympics and you win a nice gold medal for the best country in the world.

It's a dream that a lot of posters here wish they could be living. And if you say otherwise you are a goddamn liar.

I think that 90% of the annoying posters who are complaining about Kunitz are jealous.

I mean think of it. You are an NHL'er. You are good enough to be a 40-50 point player and then WHAMMO! You get traded to the Penguins. Where they try you on a line with Crosby and all of a sudden he dominating the NHL so they keep you there and you start putting up career numbers that are doubling your previous bests. You win a cup, you start earning millions, you get named to the Olympics and you win a nice gold medal for the best country in the world.

It's a dream that a lot of posters here wish they could be living. And if you say otherwise you are a goddamn liar.
- Ben37

Yah that's it.

Yah that's it.
- Scooby_Doo

Must be, or else you're just trolling.

But you would never do that...

How in the world is it possible that this room is still filled with Canadian trash talkers?

We lost.
Kunitz is the worst hockey player to ever play the game.
Toews is better than Crosby.
Your entire life depended on winning a Gold medal, and you succeeded.
Maple syrup is better than Heinz Ketchup.
Canadians are better hockey players than Americans.
Canadian fans know how to cheer better than American fans.

But seriously enough is enough, it has gotten way past old at this point.
I don't get what you want from us, please leave our room and let us enjoy talking Penguins hockey.