It's a possibility.
- EKolb13

Maybe the Hawks throw in Leblanc in a trade.......just to get rid of him. If anyone is taking up space.....

I think he can contribute. The question is how much and how consistent. He didn't look lost in preseason but then again it wasn't against full NHL rosters.
- UnnamedSource

I haven't seen enough of Teravainen to really formulate my own opinion as to if he could start in Chicago or if he should start in Rockford, let alone if he can play Center or not.

I'm just spitballing as to what the organization might do with him. I'll defer to others out there who have seen more of Teravainen then I have.

Maybe the Hawks throw in Leblanc in a trade.......just to get rid of him. If anyone is taking up space.....
- UnnamedSource

Maybe?

I'd be a "happy human" if Bowman would deal BLAH away.

I haven't seen enough of Teravainen to really formulate my own opinion as to if he could start in Chicago or if he should start in Rockford, let alone if he can play Center or not.

I'm just spitballing as to what the organization might do with him. I'll defer to others out there who have seen more of Teravainen then I have.
- EKolb13

It will be any interesting week....as stated before

It will be any interesting week....as stated before
- UnnamedSource

It's never a dull moment in the thread.

I haven't seen enough of Teravainen to really formulate my own opinion as to if he could start in Chicago or if he should start in Rockford, let alone if he can play Center or not.

I'm just spitballing as to what the organization might do with him. I'll defer to others out there who have seen more of Teravainen then I have.
- EKolb13

I watched the Junior tourney. He took a ton of draws but seemed to play RW when he got into the offensive zone.

My guess, and it's just a guess, is that TT is nothing more than a black ace this year. I'm sure they'll want to sign him, and get him in the fold. But they're gonna want him to work with Paul Goodman for a few months and maybe even acclimate himself in Rockford.

I know they brought Kreuger over and threw him in the deep end. And Kreuger eventually turned into a nice little player. But when he came over he was skinny, and overmatched and didn't help in the first year much at all. My guess is they avoid that if they can.

My guess, and it's just a guess, is that TT is nothing more than a black ace this year. I'm sure they'll want to sign him, and get him in the fold. But they're gonna want him to work with Paul Goodman for a few months and maybe even acclimate himself in Rockford.

I know they brought Kreuger over and threw him in the deep end. And Kreuger eventually turned into a nice little player. But when he came over he was skinny, and overmatched and didn't help in the first year much at all. My guess is they avoid that if they can.
- yahoodi

It very well could work out just the way you've said.

Maybe the Hawks throw in Leblanc in a trade.......just to get rid of him. If anyone is taking up space.....
- UnnamedSource

LeBlanc is on a one-way deal next year so I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off. It's too bad things haven't worked out with LeBlanc, but it was a low risk move on Stan's part and was worth a shot.

I watched the Junior tourney. He took a ton of draws but seemed to play RW when he got into the offensive zone.
- eburgio

Right now TT is too frail to survive in the NHL. If Bowman and or Q are so concerned about what Pirri does not bring, how the heck are they going to explain playing an untrained rookie in crucial late regular season and or playoff games? He has to be given on the job NHL training! He is a detriment now. With his talent he might be an offensive force down the road.

Also, while Elbows has a keen knowledge and insight, he is bashing TT unfairly. Wait until TT gains some strength, some North American experience and then you can start evaluating him. That men's league is a good primer but is far from the finished product that is playing in the NHL. Let us just say for now that TT is not yet a "Finnish -Ed" product.

Not that RealWiz evaluation is an end all of discussion, but for me I do highly respect his years of studying and breaking down film and his accurate prognosis of the projection and ability of junior level players. He has said that TT would best serve his and Chicago's interest by playing for a while in Rockford. When TT arrives we hope he can be inserted in short order into a top six role. Until that time, preparation in the AHL is proper. Now if you want to ask if Dent is the best coach for him, perhaps Eli or someone else can answer that.

My guess, and it's just a guess, is that TT is nothing more than a black ace this year. I'm sure they'll want to sign him, and get him in the fold. But they're gonna want him to work with Paul Goodman for a few months and maybe even acclimate himself in Rockford.

I know they brought Kreuger over and threw him in the deep end. And Kreuger eventually turned into a nice little player. But when he came over he was skinny, and overmatched and didn't help in the first year much at all. My guess is they avoid that if they can.
- yahoodi

Yes - TT is supposed to be better than "a nice little player" - needs different handling.

LeBlanc is on a one-way deal next year so I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off. It's too bad things haven't worked out with LeBlanc, but it was a low risk move on Stan's part and was worth a shot.
- DarthKane

At worst, BLAH will be part of the organization next season and will play out his contract.

Who knows, perhaps BLAH might surprise us next season and might be something? Terry Broadhurst went from being a guy who wouldn't physically engage last season to someone willing to engage and play defense.

It could happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it.

This is like arguing with my wife. You miss the basic point. All I have pointed out to you in this exchange is that your frustration with this continuing to be an issue comes not from others, but the unoriginal source. Then like Pavlovs dog, some run behind whining about an issue and it being raised pointing fingers in the wrong direction, which is all I pointed out.

Regarding an opinion or characterization of the issue, it has been settled. I fret not to convince others to my way of thinking or being right. To the contrary, it is what others scream out in protest with any opinion counter to their own. This is a fluid board of exchange. If someone wants to spout off nonsense, so be it, if they want to attack and agitate, then expect no silence from me
- TrueGrit

This from the Agitator par excellent.

At worst, BLAH will be part of the organization next season and will play out his contract.

Who knows, perhaps BLAH might surprise us next season and might be something? Terry Broadhurst went from being a guy who wouldn't physically engage last season to someone willing to engage and play defense.

It could happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it.
- EKolb13

A prospect who matures can do so vis -a-vis the learning curve and experience factor...BUT just as an example is Terry Broadhurst (the older brother) whose maturity is also due to a change in his style of play. Perhaps he is stronger physically and mentally this season. Sometimes players need to fail and then change some part of their game. To some extent Pirri has done so while on brief recall. He may still never be willing or able to be strong on the puck or fully address other issues we criticize. So a certain other prospect who has great vision and skill - seen in limited sample size - let us just wait and see how a TT develops.

Right now TT is too frail to survive in the NHL. If Bowman and or Q are so,concerned about what Pirri does not bring as, how the heck are they going to explain playing an untrained rookie in crucial latenregularbseason and or playoff games? He has to be given on the job NHL training! He is a detriment now. With his talent he might be an offensive force down the road.

Also, while Elbows has a keen knowledge and insight, he is bashing TT unfairly. Wait until TT gains some strength, some North American exeririence and then you can start evaluating him. That men's league is a good primer but is far from the finished product that is playing in the NHL. Let us just say for now that TT is not yet a "finished" product.

Not that RealWiz evaluation is an end all of discussion, but for me I do,highly respect his years of studying and breaking down film and his accurate prognosis of the projection and ability of junior level players. He has said that TT would best serve his and Chicago's interest by playing for a while in Rockford. When TT arrives we hope he can be inserted in short order into a top six role. Until that time, preparation in the AHL is proper. Now if you want to ask if Dent is the best coach for him, peehapsEli,or someone else can answer that.
- jhawk59

Well, I guess that's your opinion. Not to say that it's right or wrong, but I think it's there among everyone else's opinion - it's just spitballing at this point. Outside a very few here (namely wiz and a very few others, and not myself) have really watched Teravainen to the extent of making a definitive judgement as to what he is and when he may "arrive."

It might be a little short sighted to just write him off like this now. It's entirely possible that Teravainen could come over here in April and be able to contribute right away - especially if he's as talented as advertised. It's not something I would bet my own money on, but it's within the realm of possibilities.

More of what I would be willing to believe is that Bowman would be willing to try to slot Teravainen in the line-up at the end of the season, provided that someone else can't step up into the Kane line to contribute.

Whether it's a good idea or not, or if he succeeds or fails, or if we find out that he is too frail to handle the North American game now isn't really the question. It's how desperate Bowman could be once the trade deadline has passed and there still isn't a solution to finding another forward to line up on the second line.

Yes - TT is supposed to be better than "a nice little player" - needs different handling.
- StLBravesFan

Welcome back all. That was a nice break. Mostly enjoyed women's curling.

The issue I think the FO has now is a plethora of young talent for which there are no roster spots on the NHL club available. Further, the spots that could/should be shored up have no prospects ready, or cap room available to fill.

So now what do they do? Yes, you can start trading some of the prospects like Pirri, Morin, LeBlanc, etc., but they have no cap room to add any NHL players to the roster they might get in exchange. Unless they trade current roster players......

They are either stacking up on cheap depth in the hope that will be enough, or they are planning a bigger deal.

I bet on option one.

Well, I guess that's your opinion. Not to say that it's right or wrong, but I think it's there among everyone else's opinion - it's just spitballing at this point. Outside a very few here (namely wiz and a very few others, and not myself) have really watched Teravainen to the extent of making a definitive judgement as to what he is and when he may "arrive."

It might be a little short sighted to just write him off like this now. It's entirely possible that Teravainen could come over here in April and be able to contribute right away - especially if he's as talented as advertised. It's not something I would bet my own money on, but it's within the realm of possibilities.

More of what I would be willing to believe is that Bowman would be willing to try to slot Teravainen in the line-up at the end of the season, provided that someone else can't step up into the Kane line to contribute.

Whether it's a good idea or not, or if he succeeds or fails, or if we find out that he is too frail to handle the North American game now isn't really the question. It's how desperate Bowman could be once the trade deadline has passed and there still isn't a solution to finding another forward to line up on the second line.
- EKolb13

First of all, I went back and edited for spelling and typo's. So the edit is a better explanation of my point of view.

Secondly, i will agree that you may be right. Just how frail and just how ready is TT could be secondary issues if we really do need him and no others are judged more worthy!

First of all, I went back and edited for spelling and typo's. So the edit is a better explanation of my point of view.

Secondly, i will agree that you may be right. Just how frail and just how ready is TT could be secondary issues if we really do need him and no others are judged more worthy!
- jhawk59

You could edit before you hit "submit." Just saying.

the highlighted is sort of the point I've been trying to make for a while now. With being right up on the cieling of the cap, there obviously isn't going to be any high end talent coming in a trade, unless Bowman intends on moving someone from the roster in order to make that room. It might come down to Bowman rolling the dice to see if Teravainen can contribute if there is still no one else able to grab the vacant #2 center job.

It's not an idea I endorse, nor am I arguing that Teravainen is either a surefire fix or needs time in the minors. All I'm arguing for is that we shouldn't be surprised if Bowman does give Teravainen a shot before the end of the regular season.

You could edit before you hit "submit." Just saying.

the highlighted is sort of the point I've been trying to make for a while now. With being right up on the cieling of the cap, there obviously isn't going to be any high end talent coming in a trade, unless Bowman intends on moving someone from the roster in order to make that room. It might come down to Bowman rolling the dice to see if Teravainen can contribute if there is still no one else able to grab the vacant #2 center job.

It's not an idea I endorse, nor am I arguing that Teravainen is either a surefire fix or needs time in the minors. All I'm arguing for is that we shouldn't be surprised if Bowman does give Teravainen a shot before the end of the regular season.
- EKolb13

Or Sharp at 2C....just sayin'. TT has too much upside (potentially) to mishandle. I just don't think we see him until next year. In Rockford.

Theyre dropping like flies:

Harold Ramis - Animal House, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, Caddyshack - died this morning.

Theyre dropping like flies:

Harold Ramis - Animal House, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, Caddyshack - died this morning.
- StLBravesFan

HUGE talent. What a loss......

Or Sharp at 2C....just sayin'. TT has too much upside (potentially) to mishandle. I just don't think we see him until next year. In Rockford.
- Return of the Roar

Again, I'm not debating the merit of needing or not needing Teravainen right now, or where he lands. All I'm saying is don't be shocked if Teravainen shows up in Chicago before the end of the season. I wouldn't be shocked if Teravainen starts next season in Chicago and never steps foot in Rockford.

As for Sharp at #2C, why not? I figure it's got to be worth a shot before slotting Teravainen there.

Again, I'm not debating the merit of needing or not needing Teravainen right now, or where he lands. All I'm saying is don't be shocked if Teravainen shows up in Chicago before the end of the season. I wouldn't be shocked if Teravainen starts next season in Chicago and never steps foot in Rockford.

As for Sharp at #2C, why not? I figure it's got to be worth a shot before slotting Teravainen there.
- EKolb13

That ship has looooooooong sailed.

Theyre dropping like flies:

Harold Ramis - Animal House, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, Caddyshack - died this morning.
- StLBravesFan

He and Sid are writing in another place now.