Like putting 3 Canadian officials in a US-CAN semi-final game?


- CBHawks88

Thei had no effect. Bad coaching did. Team selection too. Too many good players left off for the leadership counsel BS. Dustin Brown has no place on a national team.

Hey Ogi, my son can't stand the Olympics either , national patriotism is all a bunch of bullpoop in his eyes. I tend to agree with him.
- HawkfaninBC

If you watch for athletic prowess instead of national pride, they're very fun.

Go read some other threads. Find it funny that Canadians dislike Americans so much. But then. Who doesn't?
- Elbows15

Sample size, mi amigo.

Anyone can be traded. The real carrot in my trade proposal was ROR. If you don;t think MacKinnon and ROR as you top 2 centers doesn't make you a yearly contender I don't know how else to explain it. You would also can a lot of cap flexibility.
- Elbows15

Elbows:
I GOT the "anybody can get traded" analogy/idea from your Gretzky post that I replied to.

My entire point is theEdmonton LA situation is wholly differnet than one between
Colorado
and
Chicago
at this juncture
in this reality

even thinking the planetary allignment of your imaginary trade make it bull feathers.

If you watch for athletic prowess instead of national pride, they're very fun.
- rollpards19

I agree, it really wasnt a very fun 1-0 game to watch. A lot of times 1-0 games have some good chances going back and forth, but this game didnt really. Cant wait to see the boys back on NHL ice
- BlazinMike

The US D was too tentative. Until late in the game. Bylsma was playing not to lose instead of to win. They needed to go after them. Put pressure on their D. They are good but everyone one of them will cough it up if pressured. There was an easy outlet to the forwards every time. Also allowed them to carry speed through the neutral zone.

If you watch for athletic prowess instead of national pride, they're very fun.
- rollpards19

Screw that - give me world domination any day!

Thei had no effect. Bad coaching did. Team selection too. Too many good players left off for the leadership counsel BS. Dustin Brown has no place on a national team.
- Elbows15

Oh I know. I'm just wondering how these things are overlooked by the Olympic committee. We know too well how one call can change a game.

Like putting 3 Canadian officials in a US-CAN semi-final game?


- CBHawks88

Can't just say we got beat, have to look to make excuses.
You want the best officials officiating a game like that, and they just happen to be Canadian. They weren't that good though, Kanes phantom high stick got missed. I am sure Kessler taught him how to do that.

Can't just say we got beat, have to look to make excuses.
You want the best officials officiating a game like that, and they just happen to be Canadian. They weren't that good though, Kanes phantom high stick got missed. I am sure Kessler taught him how to do that.
- leonkennedy

Go 2 pages back. I wasn't making excuses - The US lost because Bylsma is a mediocre coach and they chose grit over scoring ability.

I was just saying the olympic officiating is suspect in general.. not just in Hockey. You mean to tell me there isn't 2 US officials out there that are capable of officiating this game? I call BS.

Screw that - give me world domination any day!
- mohel

Screw the world. Its a mess. Let the Chinese try to deal with it.

The US D was too tentative. Until late in the game. Bylsma was playing not to lose instead of to win. They needed to go after them. Put pressure on their D. They are good but everyone one of them will cough it up if pressured. There was an easy outlet to the forwards every time. Also allowed them to carry speed through the neutral zone.
- Elbows15

I thought John Carlson looked like a stud. He was making good dfensive plays all over the place. And he threw Kunitz like he was flicking a lightening bug off his arm. Guy is pretty damn good.

F Kunitz by the way.

Elbows:
I GOT the "anybody can get traded" analogy/idea from your Gretzky post I replied to.

My entire point is the situation between that ANYbody was entirely different than
at present
Colorado
and
Chicago
at this juncture
in this reality

even thinking the planetary allignment of your imaginary trade make it bull feathers.
- wiz1901

There is a post in there explains everything. Go find it.

Oh I know. I'm just wondering how these things are overlooked by the Olympic committee. We know too well how one call can change a game.
- CBHawks88

So you are of the opinion that instead of booking officials ahead of time to officiate a game, they need to change it up each game, to make sure the officials do not share the nationality of either team on the ice? The best officials they have are NHL officials, who spend their time working in NA and see team against team, with both Canadian, and U.S. players on each team. There is such a thing as professionalism, and calling the game free of Bias. They tried to stack the officiating in Salt Lake in 02 in the Women's gold. Didn't work out too well for the U.S.

Go read some other threads. Find it funny that Canadians dislike Americans so much. But then. Who doesn't?
- Elbows15

'Bows with the vitriol you've been spitting Canada's way and you wonder why ?

Go 2 pages back. I wasn't making excuses - The US lost because Bylsma is a mediocre coach and they chose grit over scoring ability.

I was just saying the olympic officiating is suspect in general.. not just in Hockey.
- CBHawks88

I think they lost because the Canadians have too much talent. The USA has great top-end talent, but the Canadian's have too many guys with top-end talent. Agreed about the integrity of Olympic officiating in all sports.

So you are of the opinion that instead of booking officials ahead of time to officiate a game, they need to change it up each game, to make sure the officials do not share the nationality of either team on the ice? The best officials they have are NHL officials, who spend their time working in NA and see team against team, with both Canadian, and U.S. players on each team. There is such a thing as professionalism, and calling the game free of Bias. They tried to stack the officiating in Salt Lake in 02 in the Women's gold. Didn't work out too well for the U.S.
- leonkennedy

They are human. As ideal as it sounds, it's not truly possible to call a game free of bias.

Go 2 pages back. I wasn't making excuses - The US lost because Bylsma is a mediocre coach and they chose grit over scoring ability.

I was just saying the olympic officiating is suspect in general.. not just in Hockey. You mean to tell me there isn't 2 US officials out there that are capable of officiating this game? I call BS.
- CBHawks88

There should've been neither Canadian nor American officials on the ice for that game. even if nationality didn't figure into it, there is always the appearance that that might be the case. in any event, they can stick the bronze medal up their asses; our team should just fly the (frank) home now.

There is a post in there explains everything. Go find it.
- Elbows15

WELL there certainly wasnt any point in you to continue to defend your stupid trade scenario that was gives you a hockey IQ rating of a 15 year old in terms of

"wow..here's a trade idea!"

Everyone told you what we thought,
told you it was dumb and you are still replying????????


Is there a post in here that will make you quit continuing TO REPLY in defense of your dumb trade?

Go 2 pages back. I wasn't making excuses - The US lost because Bylsma is a mediocre coach and they chose grit over scoring ability.

I was just saying the olympic officiating is suspect in general.. not just in Hockey. You mean to tell me there isn't 2 US officials out there that are capable of officiating this game? I call BS.
- CBHawks88

So now you want it loaded to the U.S. side with official's nationality? That pretty much suggests that you consider officiating determines the outcome of the game.

Your suggestion of coaching is fantastic. Kessel played the majority of the game for the U.S. so you are suggesting Kessel is gritty, as compared to a highly skilled forward with scoring ability?

Coaching doesn't make a difference for the U.S. in that game. The size, skill and dominating defense for the Canadians won that game. The very fact J.Q. played a nearly perfect game, kept it from being 4,5, or 6 nothing. Quick is pretty much slating himself in the title of best tender in the world.

I thought John Carlson looked like a stud. He was making good dfensive plays all over the place. And he threw Kunitz like he was flicking a lightening bug off his arm. Guy is pretty damn good.

F Kunitz by the way.
- BlazinMike

Wouldn't have mind seeing Suter and McDonagh split up too. For better balance. Every time Wheeler saw the ice he was dangerous. Yet, he got so little ice time. Carlson played unafraid. One of the few D who did. McDonuagh was very good too. Suter was kinda disappointing.

So now you want it loaded to the U.S. side with official's nationality? That pretty much suggests that you consider officiating determines the outcome of the game.

Your suggestion of coaching is fantastic. Kessel played the majority of the game for the U.S. so you are suggesting Kessel is gritty, as compared to a highly skilled forward with scoring ability?

Coaching doesn't make a difference for the U.S. in that game. The size, skill and dominating defense for the Canadians won that game. The very fact J.Q. played a nearly perfect game, kept it from being 4,5, or 6 nothing. Quick is pretty much slating himself in the title of best tender in the world.
- leonkennedy

Been saying this for awhile. Hes better than King Henrik

They are human. As ideal as it sounds, it's not truly possible to call a game free of bias.
- CBHawks88

The trouble would be to find qualified officials that aren't from an interested country. You'd have to exclude all Swedes, Finns, Canadians and Americans (perhaps Russians, too) - do we really want a ref from the Congo handling a game like this?

I thought John Carlson looked like a stud. He was making good dfensive plays all over the place. And he threw Kunitz like he was flicking a lightening bug off his arm. Guy is pretty damn good.

F Kunitz by the way.
- BlazinMike

Carlson and McDonaugh are studs.

Wow, Pierre with the great question for goalie Carey Price. "I've been watching you a long time Carey, you don't seem flustered. Why is that?"

Um, maybe because his team won...maybe?