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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 20 @ 3:53 PM ET
Pirri for Matt Martin
- DarthKane


Ok...I guess I will go public now:

JJ, AL, and others on this board know I have spent the entire olympic break investigating the issues with Matt Martin.

If you check his last five games his ice time has been cut back to under 9 minutes in some five minutes.

I have tried to email just about everyone I know close to in the know about what is going on with no definitive answers.

Is he injured, in the doghouse?
No one who knows is talking.

he has THE most affordable contract in the league at one million, and you cannot expect isles to eat a part of that one too. (Very similar to Bickell's last affordable one)
There would HAVE to be a team issue for them to drop that contract.

And I am not sure if Brandon Pirri is the return they would be looking for...I mean the Isles WITH John Tavares WEREN't GOING to the playoffs where they?
So I don't see a panic.

And the fact that they have two guys Ryan Strome and Johan Sundstrom in the system to bring in, why would they TAKE Pirri when they can start on the job training for one of them?

And the fact that I feel the Hawks have no rostered guy contract they are willing to send to the Isle to make the Cap numbers work...this is not happening.

I love Matt Martin, JJ loves Matt Martin, and you all should love Matt Martin too (sing it!)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
Ok...I guess I will go public now:

JJ, AL, and others on this board know I have spent the entire olympic break investigating the issues with Matt Martin.

If you check his last five games his ice time has been cut back to under 9 minutes in some five minutes.

I have tried to email just about everyone I know close to in the know about what is going on with no definitive answers.

Is he injured, in the doghouse?
No one who knows is talking.

he has THE most affordable contract in the league at one million, and you cannot expect isles to eat a part of that one too. (Very similar to Bickell's last affordable one)
There would HAVE to be a team issue for them to drop that contract.

And I am not sure if Brandon Pirri is the return they would be looking for...I mean the Isles WITH John Tavares WEREN't GOING to the playoffs where they?
So I don't see a panic.

And the fact that they have two guys Ryan Strome and Johan Sundstrom in the system to bring in, why would they TAKE Pirri when they can start on the job training for one of them?

And the fact that I feel the Hawks have no rostered guy contract they are willing to send to the Isle to make the Cap numbers work...this is not happening.

I love Matt Martin, JJ loves Matt Martin, and you all should love Matt Martin too (sing it!)

- wiz1901



I didn't mean to imply Pirri for Martin straight up. For one I know it doesn't work cap wise, second Snow would want something else in return in addition to Pirri.

There's always a way to make deals like this happen.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
And I am not sure if Brandon Pirri is the return they would be looking for...I mean the Isles WITH John Tavares WEREN't GOING to the playoffs where they?
So I don't see a panic.

And the fact that they have two guys Ryan Strome and Johan Sundstrom in the system to bring in, why would they TAKE Pirri when they can start on the job training for one of them?

And the fact that I feel the Hawks have no rostered guy contract they are willing to send to the Isle to make the Cap numbers work...this is not happening.


- wiz1901


This.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
When the PP started for team Canada we started watching the game in my office today. Somebody asked what the US's penalty was for and somebody else yelled out "hair pulling" in a dumb attempt at making fun of women's hockey. I just answered with "I didn't know Burrows played for Team USA". If looks could kills I wouldn't be here any more.


- DarthKane

rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
The "penalty" that gave the Canadian Men's team there game winning PP yesterday was weak too. Very, very weak.
- Ogilthorpe2

Equally bad was the missed penalty shot Toews should have had
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
I didn't mean to imply Pirri for Martin straight up. For one I know it doesn't work cap wise, second Snow would want something else in return in addition to Pirri.

There's always a way to make deals like this happen.

- DarthKane


I know a throw-in...

6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
hey elbows, US women spit the bit. Katie Stone over her skis. Dousche(her, not you).
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
I know a throw-in...
- prd797



No! We need someone in Rockford to help bolster their offense.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
hey elbows, US women spit the bit. Katie Stone over her skis. Dousche(her, not you).
- 6628


It's alright to call elbows a douche.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:54 PM ET
It's alright to call elbows a douche.
- EKolb13

hey elbows, you're a dousche. Ekolb said so
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:56 PM ET
hey elbows, you're a dousche. Ekolb said so
- 6628


6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
It's alright to call elbows a douche.
- EKolb13

not too obvious i"ve been at a pool bar watching the game all afternoon.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
It's alright to call elbows a douche.
- EKolb13

not too obvious i"ve been at a pool bar watching the game all afternoon.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:59 PM ET
sorry, dribble Richarded the last post
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:00 PM ET
not too obvious i"ve been at a pool bar watching the game all afternoon.
- 6628


That sounds like more fun then the afternoon I've been having...
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Feb 20 @ 5:03 PM ET
Just speculating, could be when it is all said and done ,Pierre Marc Bouchard is up with the big club playing either2nd or3rd line minutes barring a trade of some sorts. Phil Regin or whatever his name is,is just temporary afterthought for a few games til PMB gets some games in &proves he's healthy enough to play. Thought is,given his skill &skating abilities,he probably could play with Kane&Saad...........unless......stranger things have happened &we could pry Ryan Kesler out of Vancouver. But come 3:05 on 3/5' probably a big. NADDA!
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
That sounds like more fun then the afternoon I've been having...
- EKolb13

hang tough, it pays off. hopefully i can make the next ice hogs game you set up for the boys
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
That sounds like more fun then the afternoon I've been having...
- EKolb13

hang tough, it pays off. hopefully i can make the next ice hogs game you set up for the boys
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:10 PM ET
Just speculating, could be when it is all said and done ,Pierre Marc Bouchard is up with the big club playing either2nd or3rd line minutes barring a trade of some sorts. Phil Regin or whatever his name is,is just temporary afterthought for a few games til PMB gets some games in &proves he's healthy enough to play. Thought is,given his skill &skating abilities,he probably could play with Kane&Saad...........unless......stranger things have happened &we could pry Ryan Kesler out of Vancouver. But come 3:05 on 3/5' probably a big. NADDA!
- wonthecup10


The Hawks will sign Andrew Brunette before any of this happens...
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:13 PM ET
hang tough, it pays off. hopefully i can make the next ice hogs game you set up for the boys
- 6628


Thanks. I'll be setting one up for next season.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:16 PM ET
Just speculating, could be when it is all said and done ,Pierre Marc Bouchard is up with the big club playing either2nd or3rd line minutes barring a trade of some sorts. Phil Regin or whatever his name is,is just temporary afterthought for a few games til PMB gets some games in &proves he's healthy enough to play. Thought is,given his skill &skating abilities,he probably could play with Kane&Saad...........unless......stranger things have happened &we could pry Ryan Kesler out of Vancouver. But come 3:05 on 3/5' probably a big. NADDA!
- wonthecup10


Sorry cup, barring some major injuries that's likely not going to happen. Bouchard sucks, he couldn't even stick in the Isles lineup, and I think he's had a few too many concussions to be a minimally useful player at the NHL level.

It's not a question of "when" or even "if" he gets healthy, he's not going to be an effective player. The guy likely will probably round out a career in the AHL or over here in Europe and call it quits if he can even stay on the ice, which is something he's not been good at for several years now.

Regin's cheap, and it seems he can skate well. Whether he has any more redeeming qualities than that remains to be seen, but he'll be sticking around in Chicago more likely than not. PMB has the most infinitesimal of chances to ever be on an NHL roster again.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Feb 20 @ 5:58 PM ET
Sorry cup, barring some major injuries that's likely not going to happen. Bouchard sucks, he couldn't even stick in the Isles lineup, and I think he's had a few too many concussions to be a minimally useful player at the NHL level.

It's not a question of "when" or even "if" he gets healthy, he's not going to be an effective player. The guy likely will probably round out a career in the AHL or over here in Europe and call it quits if he can even stay on the ice, which is something he's not been good at for several years now.

Regin's cheap, and it seems he can skate well. Whether he has any more redeeming qualities than that remains to be seen, but he'll be sticking around in Chicago more likely than not. PMB has the most infinitesimal of chances to ever be on an NHL roster again.

- prd797

OK,sounds good,didn't know much about either. Still think this is an outside chance SB is stocking the cshelf at rockfordbecause he may have something in mind no one even saw coming, like versteeg!
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
Equally bad was the missed penalty shot Toews should have had
- rollpards19

Agreed
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 6:10 PM ET
Sorry cup, barring some major injuries that's likely not going to happen. Bouchard sucks, he couldn't even stick in the Isles lineup, and I think he's had a few too many concussions to be a minimally useful player at the NHL level.

It's not a question of "when" or even "if" he gets healthy, he's not going to be an effective player. The guy likely will probably round out a career in the AHL or over here in Europe and call it quits if he can even stay on the ice, which is something he's not been good at for several years now.

Regin's cheap, and it seems he can skate well. Whether he has any more redeeming qualities than that remains to be seen, but he'll be sticking around in Chicago more likely than not. PMB has the most infinitesimal of chances to ever be on an NHL roster again.

- prd797


Tell us how you really feel about Bouchard
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 20 @ 6:33 PM ET
Just speculating, could be when it is all said and done ,Pierre Marc Bouchard is up with the big club playing either2nd or3rd line minutes barring a trade of some sorts. Phil Regin or whatever his name is,is just temporary afterthought for a few games til PMB gets some games in &proves he's healthy enough to play. Thought is,given his skill &skating abilities,he probably could play with Kane&Saad...........unless......stranger things have happened & we could pry Ryan Kesler out of Vancouver. But come 3:05 on 3/5' probably a big. NADDA!
- wonthecup10


well it WAS an easy give (a 4th) for insurance, but I totally agree that Regin being up and JP Bouchard not has little to do with ability and more to do with Cap.

When the playoffs start the Cap disappears as does team roster size.

Yeah Bouchard has had plenty of trouble from the initial concussion, but as a Black Ace he is a vet that will be ready for a chance to try and help win a Cup.

Regin's speed and defensive responsibilty and the fact he plays centre this season (as opposed to Bouchard, who was brought up and centre and his expiration date ended his stint there in Minny.

To me they are different players but equal in terms of why they were acquired: insurance.
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