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Forums :: Blog World :: Dan Petriw: Breaking: Isles trade Regin and Bouchard
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kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
of course you can because joel quenneville apparently can sprinkle magic talent bust over bad/talentless players and make them good...i totally agree
- LetsGoIsles


not for nothing Quenneville Capuano not much of a comparison there. He will get the most out of his players while Cappy will be satisfied for whatever
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:59 AM ET
Poll for Isles fans-

Which trade was worse-

a) mccabe, bertuzzi, and 3rd rder for trevor linden
b) spezza, chara, muckalt for yashin
c) jokinen, luongo, for parrish and kavasha

- rsmarro


WHY!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Ha!
Seasons over! Seasons over!


One cup in 73 years but who is the laughingstock of the NHL?

- Blueshirts16


Florida


XxNYIxX
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
not for nothing Quenneville Capuano not much of a comparison there. He will get the most out of his players while Cappy will be satisfied for whatever
- kasperrko



no one is comparing the 2 thats obvious but if you put a pretty hat on a pig its still a pig
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
no one is comparing the 2 thats obvious but if you put a pretty hat on a pig its still a pig
- LetsGoIsles


Yeah, no coach is going to turn PMB and Regin into much more than we saw. A good coach just won't tolerate it as long and keep rolling them out there with important minutes.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:05 AM ET
classic double standard scenario:

islanders have PMB and Regin, everyone says they suck.
islanders trade PMB and Regin, everyone says they are great insurance policies and can produce 8-10 minutes a game.

- LetsGoIsles



Seriously!!

XxNYIxX
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 10:07 AM ET
I can understand why some teams might go after Regin because of his speed. PMB was probably just a throw in. And since this draft is pretty weak Garth really didn't get a whole lot for the both of them. I would probably assume Regin will be a healthy scratch for most nights. Like some people were saying that he sucked on our fourth line but Chicago's 4th line is better than our 2nd.
- special_k1074


PMB is making 2 million dollars.. fyi. Regin is 700k.. so even 1/2 price I assure you PMB was NOT a "throw in".. especially to a team at the cap limit.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:09 AM ET
classic double standard scenario:

islanders have PMB and Regin, everyone says they suck.
islanders trade PMB and Regin, everyone says they are great insurance policies and can produce 8-10 minutes a game.

- LetsGoIsles


not to be a dink here, but different team different situation. I thought Frolik to the hawks was a weird move but they turn him into a decent player. Hawks seem to make marginal players look good (Bolland, Bickel, etc)
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:09 AM ET
no one is comparing the 2 thats obvious but if you put a pretty hat on a pig its still a pig
- LetsGoIsles


True I guess we shall see what happens. Just said another wasted year for the ISles
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:11 AM ET
Poll for Isles fans-

Which trade was worse-

a) mccabe, bertuzzi, and 3rd rder for trevor linden
b) spezza, chara, muckalt for yashin
c) jokinen, luongo, for parrish and kavasha

- rsmarro


C)

It was a bad trade from the second it was made, the other 2 are hard to swallow after seeing what Chara, Bert & Caber became, but they acceptable trades when they happened.

XxNYIxX
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
not to be a dink here, but different team different situation. I thought Frolik to the hawks was a weird move but they turn him into a decent player. Hawks seem to make marginal players look good (Bolland, Bickel, etc)
- DDM-Coga

That can happen with reclamation projects, typically young players with good talent. Regin is very vanilla and won't offer much than 7-10 minutes of 4th line play. Frankly, I don't see any way he cracks that lineup. PMB's issues are more of a 'damaged goods' due to injury issue. I just don't think he'll ever be the same.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Feb 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
Poll for Isles fans-

Which trade was worse-

a) mccabe, bertuzzi, and 3rd rder for trevor linden
b) spezza, chara, muckalt for yashin
c) jokinen, luongo, for parrish and kavasha

- rsmarro


Poll for D-bag Troll Ranger fans.. Which was a worse signing by your GM?

a) Drury
b) Redden
c) Gomez
d) Richards
e) Brashear
f) Kasperitis
g) Holik
H)Rozsival
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
C)

It was a bad trade from the second it was made, the other 2 are hard to swallow after seeing what Chara, Bert & Caber became, but they acceptable trades when they happened.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I HATED the trade for Yashin when it happened.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
Poll for Isles fans-

Which trade was worse-

a) mccabe, bertuzzi, and 3rd rder for trevor linden
b) spezza, chara, muckalt for yashin
c) jokinen, luongo, for parrish and kavasha

- rsmarro



B, by far. All Star Spezza, Norris Trophy d-man Chara, (muckalt was irrelevant) for Yashin.

McCabe, to me, was an average dman. Bertuzzi, had he stayed on the island would never had become the player he did in Vancouver. Jokinen was ok. Luongo, for all the crap I've seen the Isles get about dealing him, (deservedly) was always a "really good goalie" bordering on great but he hasn't put a team on his back and won a cup.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
That can happen with reclamation projects, typically young players with good talent. Regin is very vanilla and won't offer much than 7-10 minutes of 4th line play. Frankly, I don't see any way he cracks that lineup. PMB's issues are more of a 'damaged goods' due to injury issue. I just don't think he'll ever be the same.
- keaner17


I see PMB actually playing well down there, could produce the same as Bickell but for half the cost. I see them trying to dump that 4m salary soon.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Poll for D-bag Troll Ranger fans.. Which was a worse signing by your GM?

a) Drury
b) Redden
c) Gomez
d) Richards
e) Brashear
f) Kasperitis
g) Holik
H)Rozsival

- niteislander



Messier 2.0

XxNYIxX
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
Poll for D-bag Troll Ranger fans.. Which was a worse signing by your GM?

a) Drury
b) Redden
c) Gomez
d) Richards
e) Brashear
f) Kasperitis
g) Holik
H)Rozsival

- niteislander



Hey leave Kasper out of this
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
Slovak GM on Visnovsky: "He say he's ok. He can play. I don't understand why he can't play" (for some reason I hear Ivan Koloff's voice here..)

I wonder if the Isles don't want to risk injury because they 'may' deal Vis as well.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
I see PMB actually playing well down there, could produce the same as Bickell but for half the cost. I see them trying to dump that 4m salary soon.
- DDM-Coga

by 'down there' I hope you mean in the AHL.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
I HATED the trade for Yashin when it happened.
- keaner17


I hated losing Chara, not that we knew he would win a Norris... I just liked him.

But that trade HAD to be made.. getting Yashin was a good thing for this franchise, Him and Peca were fantastic additions by Milbury & Wang.


XxNYIxX
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 7 @ 10:19 AM ET
by 'down there' I hope you mean in the AHL.
- keaner17


on the hogs yes, might be brought up later once they open up more cap space and be the 13th forward.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Slovak GM on Visnovsky: "He say he's ok. He can play. I don't understand why he can't play" (for some reason I hear Ivan Koloff's voice here..)

I wonder if the Isles don't want to risk injury because they 'may' deal Vis as well.

- keaner17




Not Nikita's?

Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
I hated losing Chara, not that we knew he would win a Norris... I just liked him.

But that trade HAD to be made.. getting Yashin was a good thing for this franchise, Him and Peca were fantastic additions by Milbury & Wang.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



At the time, absolutely. In retrospect? Beyond awful. (The Yashin deal, not Peca)
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Poll for Isles fans-

Which trade was worse-

a) mccabe, bertuzzi, and 3rd rder for trevor linden
b) spezza, chara, muckalt for yashin
c) jokinen, luongo, for parrish and kavasha

- rsmarro

# 3 because it also led to drafting RDP over Heatley or Gaborik. And thanks for the sweet reminders of mistakes of the past.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
I hated losing Chara, not that we knew he would win a Norris... I just liked him.

But that trade HAD to be made.. getting Yashin was a good thing for this franchise, Him and Peca were fantastic additions by Milbury & Wang.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


See I argued against it at the time and didn't believe it, nor the Peca deal "had to be made". I liked the potential with Chara, Pyatt and Connolly and loved that upcoming draft. I realize Wang was trying to make a splash and help the team return to relavance but I always felt Yashin's two big seasons in Ottawa were more a product of his surroundings. I don't buy in when people called him 'lazy' or anything, but simply didn't think he was explosive enough to bet the franchise on.
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