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LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mark Spector‏@SportsnetSpec·2 mins
Warning you, Oil fans: When dealing small C who does't win draws, is below avg. def'ly, with $4.8 AAV, you're not going to like the return

Spector trolling his own teams fans #truthbombs
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
The optimistic me thinks we will win tonight and Saturday.

The Canucks fan in me thinks that we will win tonight and Saturday, leading Gillis to do nothing at the deadline, and we'll get swept by Anaheim in the first round.

#theprocess
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
The optimistic me thinks we will win tonight and Saturday.

The Canucks fan in me thinks that we will win tonight and Saturday, leading Gillis to do nothing at the deadline, and we'll get swept by Anaheim in the first round.

#theprocess

- nucks_94

As lo g as we don't trade kids for rentals
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
As long as we don't trade kids for rentals
- Bieksa#3

That would shut me down for a LONG time!!!
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Feb 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
As lo g as we don't trade kids for rentals
- Bieksa#3

I would be shocked if that happened.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
I would be shocked if that happened.
- anavar

Me also...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
Mark Spector‏@SportsnetSpec·2 mins
Warning you, Oil fans: When dealing small C who does't win draws, is below avg. def'ly, with $4.8 AAV, you're not going to like the return

Spector trolling his own teams fans #truthbombs

- LeftCoaster

So....

I think we can all agree Gagner is as good or better then Cody. Kassian is better then Clifford. Maybe that trade is pretty good after all
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
So....

I think we can all agree Gagner is as good or better then Cody. Kassian is better then Clifford. Maybe that trade is pretty good after all

- Bieksa#3

Spector just said on twitter that Bozak > Gagner

I can't get into work today
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:46 PM ET
Spector just said on twitter that Bozak > Gagner

I can't get into work today

- LeftCoaster



Bad weather?

Bozak has similar offensive numbers with a whole lot better line mates. He is/better on the draw then gagner. But I'd say Gagner>Bozak
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
So....

I think we can all agree Gagner is as good or better then Cody. Kassian is better then Clifford. Maybe that trade is pretty good after all

- Bieksa#3


I'd take Cody over Gagner personally.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
I was kind of saying that in jest, but I've looked at our current center depth in the minors - wow, it's almost non existent!!
- LeftCoaster


Yup.

Which is probably why they targeted C in the last draft.

Pretty deep at the major jr. level.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Yup.

Which is probably why they targeted C in the last draft.

Pretty deep at the major jr. level.

- Fosco

Junior level yes. But therein lies a bit of a problem, BIG gap between our core and the next up and coming players.

Like you said, that's what happens when you're trying to win a Championship. Time is right to sell some assets NOW!!
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
Bad weather?

Bozak has similar offensive numbers with a whole lot better line mates. He is/better on the draw then gagner. But I'd say Gagner>Bozak

- Bieksa#3

Mentally...first day back is always a struggle...I've still got beer bubbles in my piss
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
I'd take Cody over Gagner personally.
- AlexF

Why? Cody has had better line mates and simalar production if not worse. Plus is/way worse defensively.
I do have to wonder sometimes why people remember Cody as being way better then what he is. Are we gonna do this with weise as well?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
Mentally...first day back is always a struggle...I've still got beer bubbles in my piss
- LeftCoaster

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
Where the heck is vantal? Did he OD on cialis?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
Edler wasn't very good last season either (although he was better than he's been this season). He's a shell of his pre-injury self and even he has admited he doesn't think his back will ever be 100%.
- qwijibo


Markov also had a few bad years riddled with injury—is his value based entirely on those?

And Edler's revelation about his injury is akin to me claiming my knee would never be the same after I hurt it at 21—I'm not a doctor, and neither is Edler, so it's all speculation on his part.

My knee bothered me for a bit, but after a few years it was as good as new...

Might not be the same story with Edler, but he's not a doctor...

Edler's struggles are also amplified because he's become a whipping boy for this fanbase.

On any given night several of the other D make similar mistakes, but it's rarely mentioned as often.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'd take Cody over Gagner personally.
- AlexF

Same here.
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
Me too...
LeftCoaster
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Buckeye Town USA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:57 PM ET
TEAM Radio‏@TEAM1040·2 mins
Heads up - @GMMikeGillis will join #TEAM1040 today at 12:35

Just an FYI
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Why? Cody has had better line mates and simalar production if not worse. Plus is/way worse defensively.
I do have to wonder sometimes why people remember Cody as being way better then what he is. Are we gonna do this with weise as well?

- Bieksa#3



It's pretty close IMO, both have similar strengths and weaknesses. I'll take Cody since he's a year younger and has slightly outscored Gagner at a per 60 minute ES rate this year and last year.


They both would need to be carried with wingers that have size and defensive ability to have a successful line IMO.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Junior level yes. But therein lies a bit of a problem, BIG gap between our core and the next up and coming players.

Like you said, that's what happens when you're trying to win a Championship. Time is right to sell some assets NOW!!

- LeftCoaster


That 2010 draft has hurt both the Canucks and Comets, as those are the prospects you'd be expecting to carry the AHL team and supplementing the NHL club.

Good news is Jensen and Grenier are developing some good chemistry.

Have been great the last handful of games.

Grenier used to be listed as a C/W, but as far as I've seen he hasn't played C at the pro level.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
Me too...
- LeftCoaster



It's closer than most people think though, Gagner just gets ripped on way more playing in Edmonton. People forget that he's still only like 24, seems like he should be 27 by now since he came into the league so early.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
TEAM Radio‏@TEAM1040·2 mins
Heads up - @GMMikeGillis will join #TEAM1040 today at 12:35

Just an FYI

- LeftCoaster



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
TEAM Radio‏@TEAM1040·2 mins
Heads up - @GMMikeGillis will join #TEAM1040 today at 12:35

Just an FYI

- LeftCoaster



By the way, have you guys heard the southern US GM's(Tallon and Rutherford recently) when they get interviewed by Hockey Central at noon? Those guys don't even give a poop, they'll openly say that they'll listen to offers for certain players and will be either buying/selling(even giving specifics of what type of player they want, 3rd line RW etc.). I guess they can get away with it since they probably won't have thousands of fans calling for their heads if they fail to deliver.
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