The funny thing is, is that was one of the areas that he highlighted coming into the job. Because drafting and development had nothing to do with the salary cap, and FA agreed to spend whatever it took to bring a championship to Vancouver, Gillis promised that this would be better.
- 1970vintage

The job is probably a little more difficult than it would appear

We're almost down to a lottery position if that's what you mean.
- LeftCoaster

Shutdown Henrik for the season, Booth(to buy him out) and Daniel as well. Call up the 3 worst AHL/ECHL players under contract and give them top 6 minutes.

It's amazing how we all sit here and pick apart decisions 5 years after the fact without having ANY insight to what these players were thought of at the time. Some of these teams unearthed some gems but I assure other GM's swung and missed just as bad......it's not a science people....
- chompsey

Yup.

Shutdown Henrik for the season, Booth(to buy him out) and Daniel as well. Call up the 3 worst AHL/ECHL players under contract and give them top 6 minutes.
- Nucker101

I would honestly trade Bieksa, Edler, Hansen and Kesler for a quick do over in hopes of competing in a about three years. But that's just me.

Kesler has the biggest return, only trade him if it's a massive return.

The job is probably a little more difficult than it would appear
- LeftCoaster

I believe there's actually an NHL draft ranking site out there that has a pretty good track record at least for who they had ranked highest for the Canucks picks in recent years. Gillis should just buy a subscription and magazine and tell his scouts that he won't be needing them until round 3.

Boston and Chicago.

Boston was so deep at center, from drafting Krejci and Bergeron plus they had Savard at the time, that they could afford to trade a great young player like Kessel to get Hamilton and Segiun.

Chicago won two Cups yet they've still got some young players they've recently drafted on their team. Plus they've got Teravainen who's one of the best junior prospects in the world. We've got Jordan Schroeder. Granted guys like Tanev have come up thru the college free agent route.
- LeftCoaster

Great job by Boston picking up Bergeron in the 2nd round in 2003. Of course, they did pick Mark Stuart in the 1st round, passing on Kesler, Perry, Richards, Eriksson, Bergeron, Weber, Backes. Oops.

Kessel was picked top 5 and they lucked out that the Leafs were so awful they got Seguin and Hamilton.

Chicago's the exception. The Blackhawks have drafted phenomenally. They've also developed their players phenomenally. Every other team gets a failing grade when compared to them recently. Of course, they still needed a couple top 3 picks to build their core.

I would honestly trade Bieksa, Edler, Hansen and Kesler for a quick do over in hopes of competing in a about three years. But that's just me.

Kesler has the biggest return, only trade him if it's a massive return.
- LeftCoaster

I think it would be...how often does a player like him become available as a non-rental? Bieksa would be highly sought after as well, GM's trip over themselves to trade for top 6 F or top 4 D that can fight.

Yup.
- Fosco

But that's what a discussion board is for? I wanna talk about their past present and future decisions, that's what I'm doing here, well that and I can't sleep

I think it would be...how often does a player like him become available as a non-rental? Bieksa would be highly sought after as well, GM's trip over themselves to trade for top 6 F or top 4 D that can fight.
- Nucker101

Bieksa to Philly for Laughton and a first?

Great job by Boston picking up Bergeron in the 2nd round in 2003. Of course, they did pick Mark Stuart in the 1st round, passing on Kesler, Perry, Richards, Eriksson, Bergeron, Weber, Backes. Oops.

Kessel was picked top 5 and they lucked out that the Leafs were so awful they got Seguin and Hamilton.

Chicago's the exception. The Blackhawks have drafted phenomenally. They've also developed their players phenomenally. Every other team gets a failing grade when compared to them recently. Of course, they still needed a couple top 3 picks to build their core.
- KB3Point0

The Blues have drafted pretty well, same with Montreal. But yeah, every team has some busts. You have to pick a player that's good enough and also develop that specific player the right way.

I think he's done a respectable job with the core he inherited, where I wish he'd improve is our system of players coming up. I know he's been trying to win a Cup, almost did. That said, we have a large gap between our high end (2) prospects and our current core of players in the Sedins.
- LeftCoaster

I would absolutely agree. But give credit where credit is due, by all accounts he had a very successful draft last year. His most recent draft looks to be his best to date. Yet we keep saying he needs to improve by bringing up previous drafts. Maybe he has addressed his deficiencies and has improved in that area...

The Blues have drafted pretty well, same with Montreal. But yeah, every team has some busts. You have to pick a player that's good enough and also develop that specific player the right way.
- Nucker101

People always applaud the Red Wings drafting. Their player development hasn't gotten nearly enough credit. If their drafting was so good why'd they wait so lone before picking Datsyuk and Zetterberg?

The Blues have drafted pretty well, same with Montreal. But yeah, every team has some busts. You have to pick a player that's good enough and also develop that specific player the right way.
- Nucker101

The Blues drafted 1st overall in 2006, a couple of years before the Oilers suckage began. They've now got a championship type team, whereas the Oilers are still miring is the own poop. Drafting and developing augmented with some trades and signings at its finest.

So CCGH has informed me that he is going to finish out the year, but after that he's not continuing with the pool.

He will still entertain trade offers—**ones that will improve his teams chances**—and compete the rest of the season, though.

So CCGH has informed me that he is going to finish out the year, but after that he's not continuing with the pool.

He will still entertain trade offers—**ones that will improve his teams chances**—and compete the rest of the season, though.
- Fosco

ccgh? sorry im a little slow

Also,

Because I've had enough complaints about a few guys not setting lineups, there will be a penalty for missing too often.

I haven't worked out the details yet, but I'll post them on here and the pool board when I do.

I won't start penalizing until after the Olympic break, though, so everyone has a chance to find out before it starts.


- your friendly, omnipotent commissioner.

I would absolutely agree. But give credit where credit is due, by all accounts he had a very successful draft last year. His most recent draft looks to be his best to date. Yet we keep saying he needs to improve by bringing up previous drafts. Maybe he has addressed his deficiencies and has improved in that area...
- KB3Point0

As much as you all would like me, or anyone else, to blow sunshine up his ass while I'm going over what I perceive to be his mistakes it ain't happening. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's done some great things for the franchise. But I'm not gonna say it every time I'm thinking he needs to do a better job at something.

ccgh? sorry im a little slow
- vancity787

Currently in 10th place in the pool.

He doesn't post on HB much, but he reads often.

Seems like a nice guy.

People always applaud the Red Wings drafting. Their player development hasn't gotten nearly enough credit. If their drafting was so good why'd they wait so lone before picking Datsyuk and Zetterberg?
- KB3Point0

Their drafting is good.

But their player development is better.

Also,

Because I've had enough complaints about a few guys not setting lineups, there will be a penalty for missing too often.

I haven't worked out the details yet, but I'll post them on here and the pool board when I do.

I won't start penalizing until after the Olympic break, though, so everyone has a chance to find out before it starts.


- your friendly, omnipotent commissioner.
- Fosco

People will complain no matter what.....

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Go to bed young man.

Just looking at the 2008 draft, Stamkos with 222 goals to date, next closest in Jordan Eberle with 87. Damn that kid is good!!

People will complain no matter what.....
- chompsey

Yep.

But there has been enough concern about this issue.

Teams not setting lineups artificially improves their draft position next year.

It's not fair to guys who are actually setting their rosters everyday but still struggling.

Everyone will miss from time to time, but we don't want it happening excessively.

I also don't mind setting anybody's roster if they're going to be busy or away for a short period, as long as they notify me the night before (commissioner can only set other rosters the day before).

The Blues have drafted pretty well, same with Montreal. But yeah, every team has some busts. You have to pick a player that's good enough and also develop that specific player the right way.
- Nucker101

I'd throw Tampa out there as a team that has drafted pretty well as... well.