Yep, I think Callahan should take a pay cut to have the privilege of remaining a Ranger.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

old school, nobody is saying Callahan should take a paycut.

He makes 4.2 million a year now.

I think all of us would be happy with him getting 5 years 30 million (6 million a year)

Callahan is the one saying that isn't enough.

That is not Callahan getting a paycut

Pete I agree with your general point Staal is more important to the D than Cally is to the offense., but the 15 games since Cally has come back we are 11-4-1 and I believe the previous 15 when he was out we were 7-6-2. It may just be a coincidence, but I thought Cally played pretty good when he came back. Who knows, just an interesting stat.
- mdw7413

JD has taken notice of such stats, that's why in addition to his video tribute to Sam Rosen the other night, he actually came in person.

old school, nobody is saying Callahan should take a paycut.

He makes 4.2 million a year now.

I think all of us would be happy with him getting 5 years 30 million (6 million a year)

Callahan is the one saying that isn't enough.

That is not Callahan getting a paycut
- jimbro83

Understood. But, you guys are trying to tell him to ignore what the freight will bear for a player like Callahan, and again we don't really know what the offer Sather has made. Everyone is running with this 5 years 6 million dollar offer, but no one accept Slats and Callahan's agent know for sure.

old school, nobody is saying Callahan should take a paycut.

He makes 4.2 million a year now.

I think all of us would be happy with him getting 5 years 30 million (6 million a year)

Callahan is the one saying that isn't enough.

That is not Callahan getting a paycut
- jimbro83

I wouldn't be thrilled with that deal. He better produce offensively for that money, even if he provides Jesus Christ type leadership in the room. It's a business, and you need to score for that type of money. And matter Old Schools snark, I am sure he would even admit that paying $6 million per for a second/third line right wing is risky.

Understood. But, you guys are trying to tell him to ignore what the freight will bear for a player like Callahan.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

No, I'm not. He is entitled to get what he can get, and if $30 million from the Rangers isn't enough, I'm not sure why you feel so bad for him.

No, I'm not. He is entitled to get what he can get, and if $30 million from the Rangers isn't enough, I'm not sure why you feel so bad for him.
- Pete V

I love Ryan Callahan. Love him as much as one man can have love for another man without checking to see if it is legal in my state.

But. That doesn't mean I just agree that the Rangers should give him any amount of money he wants, for as long as he wants.

No, I'm not. He is entitled to get what he can get, and if $30 million from the Rangers isn't enough, I'm not sure why you feel so bad for him.
- Pete V

I don't, but as I said we don't know exactly what offer Slats has made. If you were Callahan and Sather offered 5mil a year for 5 years, how would you feel?

I don't, but as I said we don't know exactly what offer Slats has made. If you were Callahan and Sather offered 5mil a year for 5 years, how would you feel?
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I believe it that Callahan has refused to come off 7 years 42 million. And I actually don't really blame him. But I also don't blame Sather for not giving him that and for trying to get something for him instead of letting him leave for nothing July 1st.

Re-signing both Callahan and Girardi, to their respective contractual demands, will handcuff the Rangers from upgrading the roster this summer.

They will barely have enough left to retain other key RFA/UFA free agents of theirs let alone have the means to beef up the forward units.

Girardi plays on the first defensive pairing; Callahan is a glorified third line right wing.

Intangibles aren't worth six million dollars a season.

I believe it that Callahan has refused to come off 7 years 42 million. And I actually don't really blame him. But I also don't blame Sather for not giving him that and for trying to get something for him instead of letting him leave for nothing July 1st.
- jimbro83

Do you think that length of contract would catapult Sather into letting teams negotiate with him now? That's why I don't believe that offer, if it were the case then why isn't Girardi being treated the same way?

Do you think that length of contract would catapult Sather into letting teams negotiate with him now? That's why I don't believe that offer, if it were the case then why isn't Girardi being treated the same way?
- cranford93

Because I think the Rangers think that a first pairing defender is more valuable then a second line right wing.

from the Buffalo News today:

New York Rangers captain Ryan Callahan is on the market, but the Sabres aren’t shopping for him. At least not yet.

Multiple reports say New York has given teams permission to talk with Callahan’s agent about a sign-and-trade deal for the pending unrestricted free agent. The Sabres have not inquired about Callahan, a source with knowledge of the situation tells The Buffalo News.
- jimbro83

A lot of Sabres fans seem to think its a great match, Cally "coming home" to Buffalo. But do they really want to spend what will DEF be top dollar to get him to come to a last place club? Again, not trying at all to knock Cally, but for a team who needs so much for them to spend that kind of $ on an at best 2nd line RW, seems a bit nutty.

Obviously what they would get is leadership, something desperately needed up there & the kind of work ethic that just doesn't grow on trees.

I'm so on the fence in this debate/conversation, I can see both sides here & I really want Cally here, but at what price?

I believe it that Callahan has refused to come off 7 years 42 million. And I actually don't really blame him. But I also don't blame Sather for not giving him that and for trying to get something for him instead of letting him leave for nothing July 1st.
- jimbro83

If your assumption is correct, and I say that because once the media gets involved the party usually gets rough. We're all running around with figures of what Callahan wants and what the Rangers have offered. I have no idea what the accurate figures are. That said, on surface 7 years is too much, but I felt giving Lundqvist 8 years was too much. It's all about what the freight will bear for that player. If Callahan is doesn't play Tuesday or Thursday, it will signal the trade is imminent, and it better be, because if he doesn't play and then stays, all hell will break loose.

Do you think that length of contract would catapult Sather into letting teams negotiate with him now? That's why I don't believe that offer, if it were the case then why isn't Girardi being treated the same way?
- cranford93

Reports on the Girardi contract talks are leaning towards him re-signing as soon as the Olympic break begins. Girardi's camp seems willing to negotiate with Sather.

Callahan and his agent are not backing down from the now, publicly scrutinized, deal he is seeking.

Good for him if he gets a team to pay that sum but it simply isn't a justified request.

As bad as Clarkson's Maple Leafs contract is; he can at least hang his hat on several 30-goal seasons.

Callahan can't even claim one. While I do think Callahan is a better overall player than Clarkson, where are his numbers to justify this contract demand?

Because I think the Rangers think that a first pairing defender is more valuable then a second line right wing.
- Pete V

Agreed, I have come to reason with the sentiment that Girardi is a very important player for the Rangers.

Would much rather see the Rangers meet Girardi's demands than Callahan's.

Playing around on Capgeek for next season, 1st try I had Miller centering the 3rd line, not signing Stastny and resigning Pouliot

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.500m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($4.000m)
Jesper Fast ($0.805m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Danny Kristo ($0.827m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($3.000m)
John Moore ($1.500m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Conor Allen ($0.925m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,096,875; BONUSES: $1,295,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,003,125

Playing around on Capgeek for next season, 1st try I had Miller centering the 3rd line, not signing Stastny and resigning Pouliot

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.500m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($4.000m)
Jesper Fast ($0.805m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Danny Kristo ($0.827m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Girardi ($5.500m) / Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($3.000m)
John Moore ($1.500m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Conor Allen ($0.925m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,096,875; BONUSES: $1,295,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,003,125
- cranford93

Hate that fourth line you proposed and I definitely don't want to see Stastny here either.

Agreed, I have come to reason with the sentiment that Girardi is a very important player for the Rangers.

Would much rather see the Rangers meet Girardi's demands than Callahan's.
- MidnightMarauder

One big reason for this is that the Rangers could slide JT Miller into Callahan's slot on the 3rd line. You trade Dan Girardi, you are giving up a top pairing 25 minute a night right handed defenseman, who always plays against the other teams top players.

We don't have the defenseman equivalent of JT Miller waiting for his chance in Hartford. Mcilrath is hurt. YET AGAIN.

Re-signing both Callahan and Girardi, to their respective contractual demands, will handcuff the Rangers from upgrading the roster this summer.

They will barely have enough left to retain other key RFA/UFA free agents of theirs let alone have the means to beef up the forward units.

Girardi plays on the first defensive pairing; Callahan is a glorified third line right wing.

Intangibles aren't worth six million dollars a season.
- MidnightMarauder

Bang...you hit that one right on the head. With all of the other debts Slats has to pay there is no way to keep both Cally and G. I'd rather have G.

In reference to a comment made earlier about NYR playing better hockey when Cally came back, I say we started playing better hockey when Nash found his game and our third line with Zuccs anchoring it came together.

One big reason for this is that the Rangers could slide JT Miller into Callahan's slot on the 3rd line. You trade Dan Girardi, you are giving up a top pairing 25 minute a night right handed defenseman, who always plays against the other teams top players.

We don't have the defenseman equivalent of JT Miller waiting for his chance in Hartford. Mcilrath is hurt. YET AGAIN.
- jimbro83

Not to change topics but everytime I see Fowler or Tarasenko play well, and both are this season, I get sick that the Rangers wasted their pick on McIlrath instead while both were still on the board.

It's sh!t like this that makes me sour on the Rangers drafting.

Anyway, back to the main subject, I have seen it the board's way on Girardi. He is a very valuable player here, without question.

Not to change topics but everytime I see Fowler or Tarasenko play well, and both are this season, I get sick that the Rangers wasted their pick on McIlrath instead while both were still on the board.

It's sh!t like this that makes me sour on the Rangers drafting.

Anyway, back to the main subject, I have seen it the board's way on Girardi. He is a very valuable player here, without question.
- MidnightMarauder

Girardi is going to be out there when goals are scored against us. That's fact. He is out there when Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, Tavares, Kane and every other top player in the league is out there, and those guys score goals no matter what

Agreed, I have come to reason with the sentiment that Girardi is a very important player for the Rangers.

Would much rather see the Rangers meet Girardi's demands than Callahan's.
- MidnightMarauder

yep ^

The only positive in this mess, is the notion that Sather has established a deadline of this Friday to resolve Callahan's contract status. If we are to believe all that's ben written, and the popular opinion amongst the posters here Callahan will be gone by 3PM Friday. Sather now has no choice, he drew the line in the sand, and now he has to deliver.

Bang...you hit that one right on the head. With all of the other debts Slats has to pay there is no way to keep both Cally and G. I'd rather have G. In reference to a comment made earlier about NYR playing better hockey when Cally came back, I say we started playing better hockey when Nash found his game and our third line with Zuccs anchoring it came together.
- jslnyr1102

The Rangers started to roll once Nash and Lundqvist became Nash and Lundqvist again. You are right to credit Zuccarello as well; he continues to play extremely well and make huge plays in crucial points of games.

Callahan is a valuable member of the team but so were many other traded Rangers before, and without question, after him.

The list of RFA/UFA Rangers this summer, aside from Callahan(UFA), is rather staggering:

RFA:
Kreider
Brassard
Zuccarello
J. Moore

UFA:
Girardi
Stralman
Boyle
D. Moore
Carcillo

If you include Callahan to this list, and as of now that would be so, that is half of the current roster needing a new deal.

With only so much money to spend the Rangers need to be very smart on how they hand out new contracts to most of these players.

Hate that fourth line you proposed and I definitely don't want to see Stastny here either.
- MidnightMarauder

I would like to see Malhotra over Moore too, Fast may be ready for a spot next season, he, Kristo and Lindberg are definitely going to push to make the roster,

Looking through the free agent list the more skilled players are small like Cammy and Setoguchi, there are some other options, maybe Ott as the 3rd line center and whoever acquires Moulson is going to sign him long term, I like that if they do acquire Stewart that he and Statsny have some familiarity