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TRADE: Canadiens acquire Dale Weise from Canucks for Raphael Diaz. - jimbro83
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While intangibles may not be worth $6M a year, they would be worth more than whatever Chris Stewart could bring for this season. - callahank
Chris stewart could bring us 30 goals, size, and a legitimate pure goal scoring top 6 winger that weve been lacking on our 2nd line. |
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callahank
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Chris stewart could bring us 30 goals, size, and a legitimate pure goal scoring top 6 winger that weve been lacking on our 2nd line. - rangerdanger94
Are we talking about the same Chris Stewart? |
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DDM-Coga
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Chris stewart could bring us 30 goals, size, and a legitimate pure goal scoring top 6 winger that weve been lacking on our 2nd line. - rangerdanger94
He has the potential to do all those things, but he is still a lazy player who disappears more often than he shows up. Hes a 20g 20a kind of guy comfortably, if you light a fire under his butt he will get you more. But at around 5m price tag is he worth that kind of production |
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Are we talking about the same Chris Stewart? - callahank
You might be thinking anthony stewart? |
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cranford93
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Unless we suddenly see JT Miller has been called up, not sure how anybody could predict Cally gets scratched next two games.
They aren't playing Falk up front. - jimbro83
The damage that would do to the locker room would kill the momentum they've built up
At this point I don't see how Callahan stays here, I just hope we get back a steal, they obviously need size and this is the perfect opportunity to get some, I'd prefer Stewart more than most, I'd also like to reunite him with Statsny next season |
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He has the potential to do all those things, but he is still a lazy player who disappears more often than he shows up. Hes a 20g 20a kind of guy comfortably, if you light a fire under his butt he will get you more. But at around 5m price tag is he worth that kind of production - DDM-Coga
At 4m for this season and next, im okay with it. Id want a pick though...straight up cally for him andid.be rattled. |
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Pete V
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How does Stewart plus St. Louis #1 for Callahan and Rangers #2 sound? - gkmkiller
Basically, Callahan for Stewart, and the right to draft 15-25 positions earlier in this year's draft (and an extra year of Stewart under contract at a little over $4 million). It's not terrible, but I certaintly wouldn't consider it a home run either. That's a close call for me, but I do think, moreso than others, that Stewart has the potential to be a very effective player for the Rangers.
Curious to know what others thing about this one. |
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gkmkiller
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Location: Oceanside, CA Joined: 06.07.2009
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While intangibles may not be worth $6M a year, they would be worth more than whatever Chris Stewart could bring for this season. - callahank
We are talking about a guy who has twice netted 28 goals in a season, was on a pace for 31 last season, is big, skates well and is willing to throw down when necessary. This is not some stiff, 4th line player.
Sure, trading Cally might not send the best message to the other Ranger players but on the ice it isn't like the team would be punting the season. Stewart has value. |
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cranford93
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He has the potential to do all those things, but he is still a lazy player who disappears more often than he shows up. Hes a 20g 20a kind of guy comfortably, if you light a fire under his butt he will get you more. But at around 5m price tag is he worth that kind of production - DDM-Coga
To me it's more than his skill but also his size that we desperately need to hang around with Boston, our speed game is great but come playoff time teams like Boston know how to tighten the game |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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At 4m for this season and next, im okay with it. Id want a pick though...straight up cally for him andid.be rattled. - rangerdanger94
I wouldnt want him personally, and not bc of some EJ trade backlash.
Hes talent and a good player to have but the rumours about him not caring/no passion, a big party guy have soured him for me.
I dont think it was coincidence that he got traded when he did, after Avs going on a big losing streak, getting pumped in them, and him openly talking and planning a big trip to Vegas during the allstar break. |
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gkmkiller
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Basically, Callahan for Stewart, and the right to draft 15-25 positions earlier in this year's draft (and an extra year of Stewart under contract at a little over $4 million). It's not terrible, but I certaintly wouldn't consider it a home run either. That's a close call for me, but I do think, moreso than others, that Stewart has the potential to be a very effective player for the Rangers.
Curious to know what others thing about this one. - Pete V
You have it about right. Sure, it isn't a home run but it's a nice fall back should Slats not find the hanging curve ball he is looking for. I'll take the ground rule double rather than let Callahan leave for Buffalo or wherever else he may go after the season (strikeout) or sign him to an extension on his terms. |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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To me it's more than his skill but also his size that we desperately need to hang around with Boston, our speed game is great but come playoff time teams like Boston know how to tighten the game - cranford93
If he gets engaged he is a beast and likes to be the villian in the other teams barn. He woudl go after Lucic all night long and could be one of the only other guys in the league who can match him.
But if teams leave him alone, dont hit him, just let him float then he is useless. He needs to get his bell rung then he is motivated to play that game |
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gkmkiller
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Are we talking about the same Chris Stewart? - callahank
The one we are talking about has scored 28 goals in a season twice and had 18 last year; a pace that would have resulted in 31 over a full 82-game campaign. Is that not who you are talking about? |
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cranford93
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Basically, Callahan for Stewart, and the right to draft 15-25 positions earlier in this year's draft (and an extra year of Stewart under contract at a little over $4 million). It's not terrible, but I certaintly wouldn't consider it a home run either. That's a close call for me, but I do think, moreso than others, that Stewart has the potential to be a very effective player for the Rangers.
Curious to know what others thing about this one. - Pete V
Unless this catapults us to a Cup it won't be a home run, just the mere fact that we are trading our Captain who gives every bit of effort and wears his heart on his sleeve, I don't think there will be a person that when he gets traded that doesn't hang their head a little |
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Man o man has Sather really backed himself into a corner with the Callahan business. Reading Larry Brooks this morning, it's almost become a no win for the Rangers. Teams are not making serious offers because they know if they truly want Callahan, they will just wait till summer and try to sign him. I guess they can always use the "we've decided to wait till the NHL trade deadline", if Slats can't broker a suitable deal by Friday. But, then he risks Callahan going to Sochi and chipping a tooth, or worse be injured in an NHL game between now and the deadline. I guess for Cally the worse that could happen is Sather takes a low ball deal this week and off he goes. If happens a lot of people are not going to be happy. - OLDSCHOOL#6
I see it as teams know they will have to shell out a monster deal to him and I think many teams see this situation as we all do by thinking Cally's demands are absured and won't pay it; so why risk making a trade. Maybe it does work in Sather's favor and shows Callahan's agent that nobody wants to pay that price and would rather go into a bidding war with other teams to get him for less.
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callahank
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You have it about right. Sure, it isn't a home run but it's a nice fall back should Slats not find the hanging curve ball he is looking for. I'll take the ground rule double rather than let Callahan leave for Buffalo or wherever else he may go after the season (strikeout) or sign him to an extension on his terms. - gkmkiller
I'm not a fan of the something is better than nothing approach. I just don't think the benefits of trading Callahan outweigh the benefits of an at-best "ground rule double" |
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jimbro83
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Michael Rappaport @Mike_Rappaport 1h
NYR prospect Anthony Duclair named QMJHL First Star of the Week for the second straight week. 10 points (3 goals, 7 assists) in 2 games. |
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cranford93
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Michael Rappaport @Mike_Rappaport 1h
NYR prospect Anthony Duclair named QMJHL First Star of the Week for the second straight week. 10 points (3 goals, 7 assists) in 2 games. - jimbro83
I know it's the Q but god dam this may just be another late round steal, why can't we apply this expertise to the 1st round? |
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DDM-Coga
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I dont know why the blues would move Stewart without getting more of a gamebreaker sniper instead. They have all the 2 way forwards in the world to compete, they couldnt score last playoffs and were bounced early.
I assume thats the kind of guy they would go after at the deadline (Gaborik/Vanek?) |
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Unless this catapults us to a Cup it won't be a home run, just the mere fact that we are trading our Captain who gives every bit of effort and wears his heart on his sleeve, I don't think there will be a person that when he gets traded that doesn't hang their head a little - cranford93
True but how well can we justify giving Cally what he wants as a free agent? If we can't we won't want to let him go for nothing. If we keep Cally and don't win a Cup then lose him for nothing that isn't a home run either. It isn't an easy decision to make, that's for sure. |
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I know it's the Q but god dam this may just be another late round steal, why can't we apply this expertise to the 1st round?  - cranford93
the Rangers signing him to an entry level contract in January was the first real eye opener to me that the organization must think they have something special here, because Slats never conducts that sort of business during the season.
That's summertime stuff for Slats.
Maybe they project him on the top two lines a lot sooner than anyone could have predicted.
Maybe once his season is over in the QMJHL he is coming straight here and not passing go, and not collecting $200
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I dont know why the blues would move Stewart without getting more of a gamebreaker sniper instead. They have all the 2 way forwards in the world to compete, they couldnt score last playoffs and were bounced early.
I assume thats the kind of guy they would go after at the deadline (Gaborik/Vanek?) - DDM-Coga
Stewart is in the doghouse playing 13 mins a game, similar to perron last year. The salaries cancel out and a lot of people believe this.could be a salary dump in terms of getting rid of stewarts cap hit for next year and letting cally walk to sign miller. |
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cranford93
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True but how well can we justify giving Cally what he wants as a free agent? If we can't we won't want to let him go for nothing. If we keep Cally and don't win a Cup then lose him for nothing that isn't a home run either. It isn't an easy decision to make, that's for sure. - gkmkiller
Now way anyone except his agent can try and justify it, Cally even knows in his mind that maybe the demands a little far north of his worth |
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I'm not a fan of the something is better than nothing approach. I just don't think the benefits of trading Callahan outweigh the benefits of an at-best "ground rule double" - callahank
Okay, the alternatives are we keep him and give him what he wants in a new contract (seven years, and at least $42MM) or let him walk away for absolutely nothing. Then take a look at the free agent market and tell me where the Rangers find a 25, 26-year-old winger capable of scoring 25 - 30 goals and at 6-2, 231 has the size to match up with the league's more physical teams all for a shade over $4MM. I don't think that player is out there.
So what do you want to do? As I said in another post, we can just as easily not win a Cup this year and see Callahan leave anyway then what do we have to show for all of his intangibles? Every option carries risk; Slats and Co. need to figure out which risk they want to take. |
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