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He's def been good for the leafs this year, but keep in mind he has to have had a bit of chip after not getting a contract so there no telling if this continues. So this might be a one off. - Yeti1181
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Yeti1181
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he is a 1 yr fix. they should not sign him long term. - Bluechip23
Agreed. Unless e wants to sign. 3 deal at 1.5 then you sign that poop on gold leaf paper. |
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This year is not really a surprise. For the last two years ,in fact three years you could see the team struggling to score. It has been a decline since and including the SCF.
This team does not have the make up to be a team to swarm the net and get dirty goals.They pass way too much cough cough Sedins. There also needs to be a sense of despration.
The leaders are underperforming period. Another month like the last one and we will be joining Edmonton whom seem to be getting better as of late.
Keeping this core I think by next year we will be a bottom 8 team |
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http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2014/1/30/5360578/trying-to-understand-the-current-state-of-this-canucks-team#comments - Gullzy
Good read. I made comments yesterday eluding to chemistry. No I only read this today.
I agree with most in the article. One issue I had with it that maybe I read to much into was the Gillis quote on the NTC. |
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This year is not really a surprise. For the last two years ,in fact three years you could see the team struggling to score. It has been a decline since and including the SCF.
This team does not have the make up to be a team to swarm the net and get dirty goals.They pass way too much cough cough Sedins. There also needs to be a sense of despration.
The leaders are underperforming period. Another month like the last one and we will be joining Edmonton whom seem to be getting better as of late.
Keeping this core I think by next year we will be a bottom 8 team - VANTEL
I read somewhere and I don't know how exactly it was said but it was like this. How are we surprised the team struggles to score. We brought in a coach that plays a collapsing style of play that usually struggles to score to a team that has struggled to score. The result was obvious. |
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I had a dream last night that Burrows scored a goal. |
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I read somewhere and I don't know how exactly it was said but it was like this. How are we surprised the team struggles to score. We brought in a coach that plays a collapsing style of play that usually struggles to score to a team that has struggled to score. The result was obvious. - Bluechip23
They struggled last year also though.
Gillis openly complained about JTs style of coaching last year and probably was against bringing him in as head coach. FA was a fan of Torts and probably instructed MG to hire him. |
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I had a dream last night that Burrows scored a goal. - golfingsince
2016? |
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They struggled last year also though.
Gillis openly complained about JTs style of coaching last year and probably was against bringing him in as head coach. FA was a fan of Torts and probably instructed MG to hire him. - VANTEL
I have a feeling Gillis spends a ton of time trying to convince FA to let him do his job and make his own decisions. |
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Gillis won't ask a player to waive his NTC, lets hope the players are asking to be moved at the draft or the TDL. |
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I have a feeling Gillis spends a ton of time trying to convince FA to let him do his job and make his own decisions. - thundachunk
Let's hope FA fires Mike Gillis so we can really reset the team! |
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2016? - VANTEL
I can't even remember against who. I pretty much woke up right away. |
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Let's hope FA fires Mike Gillis so we can really reset the team!  - LeftCoaster
If FA is the problem then we're really (frank)ed. See the NFL and Dallas, Washington, Miami. |
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Coyotes are one point behind us |
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Let's hope FA fires Mike Gillis so we can really reset the team!  - LeftCoaster
I'm not ready to jump on the fire Gillis bad wagon. Reset yes. |
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I'm not ready to jump on the fire Gillis bad wagon. Reset yes. - thundachunk
IMO Gillis has to go because of all the NTCs .A different GM could say I didn't sign them and they don't deserve one |
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IMO Gillis has to go because of all the NTCs .A different GM could say I didn't sign them and they don't deserve one - VANTEL
I see no sense in firing Gillis at this point. He deserves a year without cap hell IMO. |
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I see no sense in firing Gillis at this point. He deserves a year without cap hell IMO. - golfingsince
He's essentially said he's not going to ask a player to waive a no-trade clause, which means Hamhuis, Bieksa, Garrison, Edler, Burrows, Kesler, Higgins and Luongo won't be traded. So how to we get better…you follow the same path which is trading away your youth and your picks to plug holes, or, you wait patiently while younger players grow into what you hoped when you drafted them. All the while your older players are getting that much older.
Do you see a pattern there, its the same poop that you see now. Neither of those methods will allow this team to compete in the West any time soon. So what's the point of having him really? |
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IMO Gillis has to go because of all the NTCs .A different GM could say I didn't sign them and they don't deserve one - VANTEL
Well I don't like the Edler, Garrison, Higgins, Burrows NTC. I am fine with the others Sedins, Kesler, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Luongo. In my mind this is the core of the team. We should be rebuilding around these players. Insert some youth next year and this core will make younger players better. Any GM in the league would be happy to start with this group and build around them. Rebuild does not mean destroy your core.
While a new GM could say that they don't deserve the NTC it doesn't void the contract. Making a player not want to play for your team doesn't make it easier to trade them with a no trade clause in fact the player will just make it more difficult. #Luongofiasco |
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He's essentially said he's not going to ask a player to waive a no-trade clause, which means Hamhuis, Bieksa, Garrison, Edler, Burrows, Kesler, Higgins and Luongo won't be traded. So how to we get better…you follow the same path which is trading away your youth and your picks to plug holes, or, you wait patiently while younger players grow into what you hoped when your drafted them. All the while you older players and getting that much older.
Do you see a pattern there, its the same poop that you see now. Neither of those methods will allow this team to compete in the West any time soon. So what's the point of having him really? - LeftCoaster
Yeah I agree with this.
The other day Bob Mac said everyone was available who wasn't named Sedin. If that is true then he deserves a chance to fix this mess. If he stays pat and refuses to ask a NTC player to waive then he needs to go |
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Well I don't like the Edler, Garrison, Higgins, Burrows NTC. I am fine with the others Sedins, Kesler, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Luongo. In my mind this is the core of the team. We should be rebuilding around these players. Insert some youth next year and this core will make younger players better. Any GM in the league would be happy to start with this group and build around them. Rebuild does not mean destroy your core.
While a new GM could say that they don't deserve the NTC it doesn't void the contract. Making a player not want to play for your team doesn't make it easier to trade them with a no trade clause in fact the player will just make it more difficult. #Luongofiasco - thundachunk
Kesler could get a first a prospect and a player. That is attractive.
Edler could get lefty his boy ROR
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Well I don't like the Edler, Garrison, Higgins, Burrows NTC. I am fine with the others Sedins, Kesler, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Luongo. In my mind this is the core of the team. We should be rebuilding around these players. Insert some youth next year and this core will make younger players better. Any GM in the league would be happy to start with this group and build around them. Rebuild does not mean destroy your core.
While a new GM could say that they don't deserve the NTC it doesn't void the contract. Making a player not want to play for your team doesn't make it easier to trade them with a no trade clause in fact the player will just make it more difficult. #Luongofiasco - thundachunk
What youth…where are you thinking they're coming from? We have two players who could possible make the team, they're not going to make us better than the top teams in the West. The point is to win a Stanley Cup. |
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Kesler could get a first a prospect and a player. That is attractive.
Edler could get lefty his boy ROR - VANTEL
Don't take my last quote the wrong way those are the players I think should remain the core but everyone should be available for the right price. |
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Don't take my last quote the wrong way those are the players I think should remain the core but everyone should be available for the right price. - thundachunk
Kesler Hansen for Foligno and Johansen |
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