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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Kesler for Kulemin?  - lumlums
We would det need to add. Just ask on the leaf board. Pretty sure a couple months ago there was a serious discussion on Kulemin getting 5 mill per in UFA. |
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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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I anticipate few moves (if any) by MG by the TDL. That might be for the best. - AlexF
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LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club |
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Location: Glendale AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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The time to stop pissing away your youth and or draft picks are over, one should hope. Some bold moves are needed here, whether people will admit it or not. As an organization the Canucks need to stop playing catchup to the other teams; have enough foresight to try and get ahead of the curve.
Stronger teams in the West will be on the decline in four to five years, GMMG should be building towards an upswing around that time instead of chasing all the time. Be a leader not a follower!!! |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Hey, if Clarkson can get 5.25....  - lumlums
Onnly a brain dead GM would give Clarkson that much.
*checks the career winning pct of nonis as a GM
Maybe the same guy will give Kulemin that big of contract
At least he could sign somebody decent to a bad contract. That way when they start to suck, Gilles will trade for him |
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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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The time to stop pissing away your youth and or draft picks are over, one should hope. Some bold moves are needed here, whether people will admit it or not. As an organization the Canucks need to stop playing catchup to the other teams; have enough foresight to try and get ahead of the curve.
Stronger teams in the West will be on the decline in four to five years, GMMG should be building towards an upswing around that time instead of chasing all the time. Be a leader not a follower!!! - LeftCoaster
I think we'd need a new GM to prescribe to this approach wouldn't you say? |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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I anticipate few moves (if any) by MG by the TDL. That might be for the best. - AlexF
Not sure if it is for the best or not. I guess it is for the best if we hire a new GM.
People always talk about dealing from a position of strength or weakness. It all depends on the market and need. Gillis may have not felt rushed with Schneider but ultimately had to make a trade. One has to wonder if GMMG has any regrets - did he turn down better offers previous to the NJ deal?
We all want good deals. If there is any truth to what the talking heads are saying, best prices should be before the Olympic break. Wish this site offered more insight into what rumored players are available. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Not sure if it is for the best or not. I guess it is for the best if we hire a new GM.
People always talk about dealing from a position of strength or weakness. It all depends on the market and need. Gillis may have not felt rushed with Schneider but ultimately had to make a trade. One has to wonder if GMMG has any regrets - did he turn down better offers previous to the NJ deal?
We all want good deals. If there is any truth to what the talking heads are saying, best prices should be before the Olympic break. Wish this site offered more insight into what rumored players are available.  - hillbillydeluxe
If the canucks choose to sell at the deadline, they are undoubtably dealing from a position of strength |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If I had to bet, I'd have my money on Gillis making one deal before the TDL, but that's probably it. I also expect another at the draft this year(assuming Gillis is still in charge). |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If the canucks choose to sell at the deadline, they are undoubtably dealing from a position of strength - Bieksa#3
Sellers are always in a better position at the TDL, but guys like Burrows/Edler are "sell lows" right now IMO, but if you can get close to full value for them you might just have to do it for the sake of getting one deal out of the way now. I'm guessing Gillis will put Edler up for bidding at the TDL and he'll probably see decide then if it's worth it or not to make the deal now or wait for the draft if he thinks he can do better.
Either way, the trade market and UFA market is very weak this year for teams looking to buy, I doubt there's many Edler's available. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Sellers are always in a better position at the TDL, but guys like Burrows/Edler are "sell lows" right now IMO, but if you can get close to full value for them you might just have to do it for the sake of getting one deal out of the way now. I'm guessing Gillis will put Edler up for bidding at the TDL and he'll probably see decide then if it's worth it or not to make the deal now or wait for the draft if he thinks he can do better.
Either way, the trade market and UFA market is very weak this year for teams looking to buy, I doubt there's many Edler's available. - Nucker101
would rather see him make a hockey trade than go the ufa market and do a Clarkson type deal... If there aren't many Edler type players available, he should be able to get something for one of our top 4 d men?
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Sellers are always in a better position at the TDL, but guys like Burrows/Edler are "sell lows" right now IMO, but if you can get close to full value for them you might just have to do it for the sake of getting one deal out of the way now. I'm guessing Gillis will put Edler up for bidding at the TDL and he'll probably see decide then if it's worth it or not to make the deal now or wait for the draft if he thinks he can do better.
Either way, the trade market and UFA market is very weak this year for teams looking to buy, I doubt there's many Edler's available. - Nucker101
Vancouver would still get a truckload for edler at tdl |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Sellers are always in a better position at the TDL, but guys like Burrows/Edler are "sell lows" right now IMO, but if you can get close to full value for them you might just have to do it for the sake of getting one deal out of the way now. I'm guessing Gillis will put Edler up for bidding at the TDL and he'll probably see decide then if it's worth it or not to make the deal now or wait for the draft if he thinks he can do better.
Either way, the trade market and UFA market is very weak this year for teams looking to buy, I doubt there's many Edler's available. - Nucker101
Ducks are a great example of a team who despretely needs a Edler on defense. Same for Tampa and philly |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Ducks are a great example of a team who despretely needs a Edler on defense. Same for Tampa. - Bieksa#3
Are we trading Lou to Tampa again? Crank up the rumor mill. Lou and a dman to Tampa for .... |
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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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Ducks are a great example of a team who despretely needs a Edler on defense. Same for Tampa and philly - Bieksa#3
Given how the Ducks are doing this season they'll never give up what MG would want in return. Steve Y and TB have time on their side and no need to give up assets they'd rather not give up for Edler at the TDL.
I think it might come down to who is on the hotseat and what teams see someone like Edler as their missing piece.
Ottawa would be a solid option, but they tend to get the better of their trades.
Detroit would also be good but their offer was already made and Holland doesn't panic.
Washington maybe above all fits the bill of a GM on the hotseat and a team that is desperate for a top 4 D, especially given that Mike Green may have another concussion. |
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Bieksa#3
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Are we trading Lou to Tampa again? Crank up the rumor mill. Lou and a dman to Tampa for .... - hillbillydeluxe
Yeah, they need a upgrade on Bishop
Even the season Higgins is having I could see Gilles getting a decent asset back. 20-25 goal scorer who is a top tier 2 way player and team guy. With a very affordable contract |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Given how the Ducks are doing this season they'll never give up what MG would want in return. Steve Y and TB have time on their side and no need to give up assets they'd rather not give up for Edler at the TDL.
I think it might come down to who is on the hotseat and what teams see someone like Edler as their missing piece.
Ottawa would be a solid option, but they tend to get the better of their trades.
Detroit would also be good but their offer was already made and Holland doesn't panic.
Washington maybe above all fits the bill of a GM on the hotseat and a team that is desperate for a top 4 D, especially given that Mike Green may have another concussion. - AlexF
Anaheim doesn't have the defense to run with Stl, Chicago etc. They need edler and Philly in obvious |
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Michael Stuart
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Location: "Caresi > Corsi" Joined: 10.24.2011
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Given how the Ducks are doing this season they'll never give up what MG would want in return. Steve Y and TB have time on their side and no need to give up assets they'd rather not give up for Edler at the TDL.
I think it might come down to who is on the hotseat and what teams see someone like Edler as their missing piece.
Ottawa would be a solid option, but they tend to get the better of their trades.
Detroit would also be good but their offer was already made and Holland doesn't panic.
Washington maybe above all fits the bill of a GM on the hotseat and a team that is desperate for a top 4 D, especially given that Mike Green may have another concussion. - AlexF
I could be totally off base here, but I don't think that Edler is what TB will be looking for. There's enough puck movement on that back end with Hedman, Carle, Barberio, and then a bunch of the prospects coming up. I think they're looking for a right-handed defensive defenseman (See: Girardi, Dan). |
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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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Yeah, they need a upgrade on Bishop
Even the season Higgins is having I could see Gilles getting a decent asset back. 20-25 goal scorer who is a top tier 2 way player and team guy. With a very affordable contract - Bieksa#3
When Bob Mac is saying everyone not named Sedin is on the block, you know there have been better days in the Canucks boardroom. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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When Bob Mac is saying everyone not named Sedin is on the block, you know there have been better days in the Canucks boardroom. - AlexF
I'd be socked if Kesler is moved, but another guy worth a brinks truck at TDL. |
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AlexF
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Whistler, BC Joined: 06.25.2011
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Anaheim doesn't have the defense to run with Stl, Chicago etc. They need edler and Philly in obvious - Bieksa#3
I'm not disagreeing, but Edler is wildly inconsistent and has had a poor season to date. No responsible GM should be parting with valuable assets for a player like that, especially when they're a very solid cup contender. Bieksa or Hamhuis might be more of what they'd be after. |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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When Bob Mac is saying everyone not named Sedin is on the block, you know there have been better days in the Canucks boardroom. - AlexF
GMMG likes to keep his cards close to his vest... Wonder where Bob Mac heard that tidbit? A controlled leak? GMMG is the same guy who said he wouldn't be asking guys with ntc/nmc if they want to be dealt. Clusterfack. |
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