Anyway`s Leaf fans.....it`s been real.

I get you don`t want to sacrifice youth at the moment...but I also think you`re slightly crazy.

Gio would bring the Leafs to a whole new level IMO. I don`t know what you are trying to build over there (maybe some type of huge monster beast team that wins 82 games and sweeps it`s way to a Stanley Cup every year), but sometimes a deal comes around that is too good to pass up.

If Gio ever was traded for Franson it would be a major win for the Leafs. And I don`t think many people would argue that.
- The-O-G

Fixed

Fixed
- lumlums

Let me call Burkie.....

Is Franson truculent???

This is probably actually going to happen.....and i`m gonna look like a (frank)ing retard

Right now, Reilly and Gardner could end up as amazing players, both. Keep em, unless the deal is just simply impossible to pass up, keep em...
- aminnes

You don't trade building blocks unless it's for a new/different/better building block ...or you are ready to challenge for The Cup.

People have short memories. Pronger had plateaued in St. Loo,but still got Brewer who was thought of as a pretty promising young guy then. Who were the other top vets they had before Nieds and Prongs?
- sanfordnson

Selanne and McDonald were pretty damned good.
They had a bunch of established roll players who were counted on for their veteran presences...

26 year old Beauchemin and 29 year old Giggy didn't hurt either.

People have short memories. Pronger had plateaued in St. Loo,but still got Brewer who was thought of as a pretty promising young guy then. Who were the other top vets they had before Nieds and Prongs?
- sanfordnson

Giordano never was Pronger even after Pronger had plateau'd.

I don`t think they are cup contenders right now....but if they added Gio, I think it would be a huge step. He still has 5-6 good years left, and would be a perfect leader for a young team like the Leafs.
- The-O-G

We finally settled who's Ipod gets played in the locker room. Gio would just complicate poop.

Let me call Burkie.....

Is Franson truculent???

This is probably actually going to happen.....and i`m gonna look like a (frank)ing retard
- The-O-G

Gonna?

You don't trade building blocks unless it's for a new/different/better building block ...or you are ready to challenge for The Cup.
- The Law

Let them both get valuable playoff experience in a year where anyone in the east could win...

Of Corsi is!!!
- lumlums

Oh that just stinks

We finally settled who's Ipod gets played in the locker room. Gio would just complicate poop.
- The Law

Ya....i`m not sure he would be happy with that Miley Cyrus bullsh!t

WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THEY NEED HIM

Gonna?
- whipper334

aren`t we on the same side here??

I don`t think they are cup contenders right now....but if they added Gio, I think it would be a huge step. He still has 5-6 good years left, and would be a perfect leader for a young team like the Leafs.
- The-O-G

Stop it, I am starting to believe it is a good idea. Quite your Burke-ian mind tricks.

aren`t we on the same side here??
- The-O-G

Yes we are dude, I just couldn't resist.

Stop it, I am starting to believe it is a good idea. Quite your Burke-ian mind tricks.
- Aetherial

Stop it, I am starting to believe it is a good idea. Quite your Burke-ian mind tricks.
- Aetherial

Also Gardiner stinks too....why do you even want him?

Giordano never was Pronger even after Pronger had plateau'd.
- Aetherial

Gio aint Pronger... Pronger made every team he played on good... Even the Oilers saw a huge upswing with him there for one year, only to plummet to the bottom. This is not Gio. I like him, but your comparing him to the only d man in history to win a Norris and mvp other than Orr.

Giordano never was Pronger even after Pronger had plateau'd.
- Aetherial

Few were . Anaheim parted with Lupul, Smid and a 1st at he time. Two highly regarded youngsters then. The first became Eberle.

I know you guys are high on Gardiner but I just really dont get the absolute nos on this. Not that I have to. Been good chats but I gotta go

Gio aint Pronger... Pronger made every team he played on good... Even the Oilers saw a huge upswing with him there for one year, only to plummet to the bottom. This is not Gio. I like him, but your comparing him to the only d man in history to win a Norris and mvp other than Orr.
- aminnes

I don`t think anyone will argue with you on this one...

Few were . Anaheim parted with Lupul, Smid and a 1st at he time. Two highly regarded youngsters then. The first became Eberle.

I know you guys are high on Gardiner but I just really dont get the absolute nos on this. Not that I have to. Been good chats but I gotta go
- sanfordnson

we have a history of being burned by that thinking

Gio aint Pronger... Pronger made every team he played on good... Even the Oilers saw a huge upswing with him there for one year, only to plummet to the bottom. This is not Gio. I like him, but your comparing him to the only d man in history to win a Norris and mvp other than Orr.
- aminnes

If you look back at his post he never mentioned Pronger, you guys just assumed he did.

I know it's a stretch for the Leafs to assume anything.

Gio aint Pronger... Pronger made every team he played on good... Even the Oilers saw a huge upswing with him there for one year, only to plummet to the bottom. This is not Gio. I like him, but your comparing him to the only d man in history to win a Norris and mvp other than Orr.
- aminnes

Last parting shot: focus less on the name and more on the circumstance.

we have a history of being burned by that thinking
- Aetherial

This is true....like when the Flames fleeced the Leafs in that Phaneuf deal

If you look back at his post he never mentioned Pronger, you guys just assumed he was did.

I know it's a stretch for the Leafs to assume anything.
- whipper334

well it was either Pronger or Neidermayer... he was referring to Anaheim's success after they acquired a veteran d.

This is true....like when the Flames fleeced the Leafs in that Phaneuf deal
- The-O-G

I'm not a huge Phaneuf fan, but we don't really have room for Stajan either.

... I hear that tall defenseman is available again?

well it was either Pronger or Neidermayer... he was referring to Anaheim's success after they acquired a veteran d.
- Aetherial

The situation. Not the specific names. Damn.