Meszaros is still just a throw in on a trade, right? I know recently he's been hot. I know he's always had talent. That being said, he's got a history of injuries and he's a free agent at the end of the season. Perhaps a team with a bloated cap figure would be interested, but I dunno.

His second goal of the night against the Isles last weekend was a beauty, though. Nice fake to circumvent his defender.
- Hesh_

he is a couple notches above a throw in, Hal Gill on the other hand meets the defintion of a throw in.

When will you get it through you head . It will not happen at that price. We have a new GM that is not going to let his first transaction be hosed on the hottest goalie in the league right now. Keep posting the same things over and over. It will not make it come true. Let's hope your GM has more sense.

Plus making an aggressive move shows Miller you believe in him and it gives you the inside track at signing him before he becomes a UFA.
- Maximum Signal

I would like it if, you, & the rest of the Sabers fans would read this quote above this message !

I would like it if, you, & the rest of the Sabers fans would read this quote above this message !
- Richard_Cranium

Halak+MPS+Conditional 1st.

Done deal.

Just keep thinking that when you are watching your favorite team at the golf course while the Stanley Cup finals are on.
- Maximum Signal

WHATEVER YOU GOTTA TELL YOURSELF, TO JUSTIFY THROWING OUT CRAZY VALUE ASSESSMENTS FOR A PENDING UFA GOALIE !

NOTICE THE THEME THERE ?

MAN ! I would LOVE TO LIVE ON, FANTASY ISLAND with most of you Sabers fans !

It must be nice thinking, you're gonna get 2 A+ prospects in Jaskin, Allen, or Rattie ! HELL, I've even see as much where some of you even think on top of the combination of 2 names previously mentioned, that you guys would also get one of Schwartz, or Tarasenko, & a 1st round pick ! THAT'S ABSURD ! You guys do realize that he's a UFA RIGHT ? I DON'T CARE HOW GOOD, OR HOW GREAT HE IS, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT KIND OF RETURN !

In closing, if you guys keep thinking along those lines, you're setting yourselves up for a real disappointing time during your REBUILD !
- Richard_Cranium

Just hoping our re-build ends with a cup this time around. How is the REBUILD The Blues started back in 2005 going?

Sorry He will go further west if anything. If he is already in house that gives you the best chance to resign him.
- Maximum Signal

I agree, I would try like heck to get him myself but I'm not giving up a king's ransom when you don't have to.

It's always better to get a guy in house and then you have exclusive negotiating rights to him for that time frame.

And if he came to St. Louis, he would sign on to stay here. He would not find a better fit.

WHATEVER YOU GOTTA TELL YOURSELF, TO JUSTIFY THROWING OUT CRAZY VALUE ASSESSMENTS FOR A PENDING UFA GOALIE !

NOTICE THE THEME THERE ?
- Richard_Cranium

Hey newbie . Both your goalies are UFA's as well . Trade one of them, your 2014 first , your 2015 1st. You get Miller and Buffalo retains half his salary to make the cap gods happy . What assets ? Low 1st round picks. St Louis fans do not want to give up any of those precious prospects or roster players . Who is asking for them. Your 1st are low first rounders. With Miller a good St Louis team becomes hands down cup favorites. It would be a shame if you don't make the move. You know all those other contenders in the west will make them.

Don't worry about multiple cups till you win that first one!

I agree, I would try like heck to get him myself but I'm not giving up a king's ransom when you don't have to.

It's always better to get a guy in house and then you have exclusive negotiating rights to him for that time frame.

And if he came to St. Louis, he would sign on to stay here. He would not find a better fit.
- bcallaway

The option you have to weigh is what is Miller signing an extension worth leting go.

He is going to command a hefty salary. Even with the cap going up it would be difficult for STL to sign him to a $7MM contract and keep every piece of that team.

I agree, I would try like heck to get him myself but I'm not giving up a king's ransom when you don't have to.

It's always better to get a guy in house and then you have exclusive negotiating rights to him for that time frame.

And if he came to St. Louis, he would sign on to stay here. He would not find a better fit.
- bcallaway

I don't think a first and a good prospect/young player is that much to give up for Miller(plus halak just for salary dump).

I think he would do wonders for your team. Not only because hes a better goalie than Halak/Elliot, but mentally it would be huge. Show all the players that management is dedicated to winning a cup.

fine fine fine....

Buffalo won't take one of your precious cornerstone franchise pieces...


I would happily take Oshie/Berglund/Stewart for Miller and a conditional pick.

Halak+MPS+Conditional 1st.

Done deal.
- ImThatGuy

Why?

Halak is just a plug.... MPS is a 3rd liner with a small chance at being a 2nd liner.. and a 26+ 1st rounder....

that is garbage.

Why?

Halak is just a plug.... MPS is a 3rd liner with a small chance at being a 2nd liner.. and a 26+ 1st rounder....

that is garbage.
- JVince11

The Sabres need a goalie in return

MPS is still young and has rarely been given a chance at top line minutes

1st rounder can be used in another trade to acquire assets or used to move up in the draft.

Picture this the Sabres have picks 1, 8, 26 in this years draft.
picks 8 & 26 can be used in a deal to move up to top 5 possibly 3-4

The Sabres need a goalie in return

MPS is still young and has rarely been given a chance at top line minutes

1st rounder can be used in another trade to acquire assets or used to move up in the draft.

Picture this the Sabres have picks 1, 8, 26 in this years draft.
picks 8 & 26 can be used in a deal to move up to top 5 possibly 3-4
- ImThatGuy

I just don't see it. that pick of STL is gonna be so late that is is basically a 2nd rounder.

I don't think you could bundle 8 and 26+ to move up 4 or 5 spots.

The option you have to weigh is what is Miller signing an extension worth leting go.

He is going to command a hefty salary. Even with the cap going up it would be difficult for STL to sign him to a $7MM contract and keep every piece of that team.
- ImThatGuy

Agree and that is the real issue with getting a nice return on him in a trade even if you think having him "In House" would make it easier for negotiation he is still gonna want a huge paycheck at 33yrs old. I still think a team like Detroit could be a factor when it is all said and done. Something like Howard and a 1st and let them worry about the new contract.

I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

Honestly i think asking poing could be:

Halak+MPS+ Conditional 1st

Miller (30% salary retained)
- ImThatGuy

Now that is reasonable ! If, the Blues would have to add a 2nd, or a 3rd & 4th to that deal, it'd be worth it !

Just not one of the following : Allen, Jaskin, Rattie, or Schwartz, Tarasenko !

Now that is reasonable ! If, the Blues would have to add a 2nd, or a 3rd & 4th to that deal, it'd be worth it !

Just not one of the following : Allen, Jaskin, Rattie, or Schwartz, Tarasenko !
- Richard_Cranium

Berglund or Oshie....

and we can even give you Grigorenko...


Halak, Oshie, and a cond. 1st

for

Miller, Grigo, and the Wild's 2nd rounder.

The option you have to weigh is what is Miller signing an extension worth leting go.

He is going to command a hefty salary. Even with the cap going up it would be difficult for STL to sign him to a $7MM contract and keep every piece of that team.
- ImThatGuy

That's what i've been trying to say ! What does he really want ? Does he want term, or the money, or both ? Will he even like it here, even with the team that the Blues would be able to ice in front of him ?

With all of that said, & I'm sure there are more questions to ask . But, that's the big reasons for not even going anywhere near the likes of, Allen, Jaskin, Rattie, Schwartz, & Tarasenko .

The option you have to weigh is what is Miller signing an extension worth leting go.

He is going to command a hefty salary. Even with the cap going up it would be difficult for STL to sign him to a $7MM contract and keep every piece of that team.
- ImThatGuy

No one will pay him anywhere close to $7M.

Good grief.

Berglund or Oshie....

and we can even give you Grigorenko...


Halak, Oshie, and a cond. 1st

for

Miller, Grigo, and the Wild's 2nd rounder.
- JVince11

You can take Berglund . Because, if Oshie is in that deal, it would be a lot more than just Minnesota's 2nd rounder .

Oshie is a huge piece of the Blues core ! Not saying Berglund isn't, he just doesn't have the impact that Oshie does on this team .

No one will pay him anywhere close to $7M.

Good grief.
- bcallaway

Following the Goalie market lately? You better brush up on it. He gets 7 - 7.5 based on what has been shelled out for others.

Just keep thinking like that and you can see your favorite team at a local golf course during the Stanley cup finals . Maybe you can meet them in the clubhouse to watch the game together ! No one expects you to break up the current Roster to get Miller . Quit making things up Newbie.


- Maximum Signal

Did you lose a bet where you have to add this sentence to everything you post. Because, seriously, you come off sounding like Rainman.

Milller needs to be moved, not young enough for a 3-5 year rebuild