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dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
He plays for an extremely offensively challenged team. The Pens are not the Preds.
- nbartley9

I'll give you that but plus minus is a terrible stat either way.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:38 PM ET
My answer was I wouldn't but the Pens probably would. There was your answer to your stupid ass question. And then I proceeded to say they would flip him to your team for those guys and you got butt hurt.
- dbell646


Yes...you did miss the point. Glad we cleared that up.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yes...you did miss the point. Glad we cleared that up.
- jmatchett383

Guess I did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:40 PM ET
I'll give you that but plus minus is a terrible stat either way.
- dbell646


Agreed. It has more to do with matchups, linemates, and goaltending as much as it does the individual. That said, on the Eastern Conference All Stars, I mean, Pittsburgh Penguins, it carries a bit more weight.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
I don't see anything Pittsburgh would be willing to give up at the deadline that could land Eberle.

Who knows what the offseason will hold.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
I don't see anything Pittsburgh would be willing to give up at the deadline that could land Eberle.

Who knows what the offseason will hold.

- Morris



Have you seen Taylor Pyatt?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
Have you seen Taylor Pyatt?
- canadianpenfan


Edmonton would need to throw in some picks.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Have you seen Taylor Pyatt?
- canadianpenfan

Not lately
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
giroux is their captain and franchise guy though.
- stayinthefnnet


Giroux has the C on his jersey. I don't think he is a good leader. Yes, he is their captain though.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't see anything Pittsburgh would be willing to give up at the deadline that could land Eberle.

Who knows what the offseason will hold.

- Morris



offseason is when a bigger deal takes place, if there is one to be had.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
Giroux has the C on his jersey. I don't think he is a good leader. Yes, he is their captain though.
- Oneonta Penguin


Out of curiosity, why don't you think he is a good leader? I'm not bashing, just curious.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
offseason is when a bigger deal takes place, if there is one to be had.
- Oneonta Penguin


Agreed. Much easier to manage a roster in the offseason.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 9 @ 3:58 PM ET
Giroux has the C on his jersey. I don't think he is a good leader. Yes, he is their captain though.
- Oneonta Penguin

i wont get into intangibles, whether they be there or not. but his production is undeniable. he is still young. a homegrown pretty much elite by virtually any measure center. add in the fact that he is by far the team's face and most marketable player, i think its fair to say that he is their franchise player.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
Not lately
- Morris



Oh, well, do I have a deal for you...


nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
Oh, well, do I have a deal for you...
- canadianpenfan

Whatever the deal is would you please include Kobasew in it.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Whatever the deal is would you please include Kobasew in it.
- nbartley9

amen
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
New Jets blog says Shero wants Blake Wheeler. I know he's good, but not much more about him.

The blog pretty much says the team is worthless and should move back to ATL and trade/fire everyone.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
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#Pens D-pairs today: Orpik-Bortuzzo, Maatta-Niskanen, Despres/Scuderi-Letang

Have to assume Despres sits

- Deadstar


Orpik is the guy that probably deserves to sit one right now but the reality is that can't/won't happen after Bylsma lobbied for his inclusion on the US team.

Despres was not good against Vancouver but I think his partner has been worse for a few games now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
New Jets blog says Shero wants Blake Wheeler. I know he's good, but not much more about him.

The blog pretty much says the team is worthless and should move back to ATL and trade/fire everyone.

- sammy87


I know a lot of people have mentioned Wheeler, and I don't see it. He just seems like a "blah" player to me. He's big, and he puts up points, but he seems empty to me...kind of like Olli Jokinen, only taller and younger.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 9 @ 4:26 PM ET
We need Steve Ott end of story.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 4:27 PM ET
We need Steve Ott end of story.
- nbartley9


Won't come cheap. 1st round pick minimum.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
Orpik is the guy that probably deserves to sit one right now but the reality is that can't/won't happen after Bylsma lobbied for his inclusion on the US team.

Despres was not good against Vancouver but I think his partner has been worse for a few games now.

- Ryan_Wilson




I'm not like most that blow a gasket everytime he's sat down, but after that game I would really like to see him thrown right back out there.

Doesn't sound like it's going to happen though.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'm not like most that blow a gasket everytime he's sat down, but after that game I would really like to see him thrown right back out there.

Doesn't sound like it's going to happen though.

- canadianpenfan


The other dynamic at play here is that the Penguins are on a 3 game road trip out west, most times the coach will try and get a fringe guy like Bortuzzo at least 1 game. Bylsma got the excuse he needed with Despres' poor outing.

sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
I know a lot of people have mentioned Wheeler, and I don't see it. He just seems like a "blah" player to me. He's big, and he puts up points, but he seems empty to me...kind of like Olli Jokinen, only taller and younger.
- jmatchett383


Agree, just about everyone on Peg is kinda meh to me. Not interested in Kane either.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
Won't come cheap. 1st round pick minimum.
- Ryan_Wilson

i realize the duh factor here, but id be certainly willing to play ball value wise if he was signed. for a rental, i wont go there again.
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