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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
We should see how much Dallas wants for Dustin Jeffrey!
- Deadstar


Probably quite a bit... he's really been lighting it up there

If we're looking for a third line wing, and are making a trade with Winnipeg anyway, maybe they'd throw in Eric Tangradi. He's only scored half as many goals this season as Chuck Kobasew though...
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
OK Gunner, here are my top bottom six forwards:

Dave Bolland, Curtis Glencross, Jamie McGinn, Daniel Paille, Christian Hansen, Jaret Stoll, and Gabriel Landeskog.

Probably Curtis Glancross and Gabriel Landeskog would be our 'most likely' as Curtis is with Calgary and Gabriel is with Colorado, both of which might be looking for defense.

- powerhouse



Landeskog isn't going anywhere.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
OK Gunner, here are my top bottom six forwards:

Dave Bolland, Curtis Glencross, Jamie McGinn, Daniel Paille, Christian Hansen, Jaret Stoll, and Gabriel Landeskog.

Probably Curtis Glancross and Gabriel Landeskog would be our 'most likely' as Curtis is with Calgary and Gabriel is with Colorado, both of which might be looking for defense.

- powerhouse

Are you trading Letang++ for Landeskog? You're not getting a playoff bubble team's 21 year old Calder-winning Captain for less than an EMORMOUS price.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jan 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Question for everybody on here. Would you trade Niskanen to the Avs for McGinn straight up? Gives the Pens a good bottom 6 guy, gives the Avs the top 4 PMD they are looking for.
- cap1681

Absolutely not. A top-4 PMD's value is much higher than a bottom forward. Only way Nisk is getting traded is if its for a second line player. At this point though, i dont ser Nisk getting traded because he's been our only steady d-man all season.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
OK Gunner, here are my top bottom six forwards:

Dave Bolland, Curtis Glencross, Jamie McGinn, Daniel Paille, Christian Hansen, Jaret Stoll, and Gabriel Landeskog.

Probably Curtis Glancross and Gabriel Landeskog would be our 'most likely' as Curtis is with Calgary and Gabriel is with Colorado, both of which might be looking for defense.

- powerhouse


Landeskog is the Avs captain and a top 6 guy. He's playing with Sid of he was traded for. Bolland was just traded to his hometown and is a center which we don't need. Stoll is also a center. The only name that sounds ok is mcginn
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jan 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
Landeskog is the Avs captain and a top 6 guy. He's playing with Sid of he was traded for. Bolland was just traded to his hometown and is a center which we don't need. The only name that sounds ok is mcginn
- drummer829

Exactly. Landeskog aint going anywhere. It would ROR or McGinn
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
Ryan, any word on the goalie rotation? I hope they play Zatkoff tomorrow so I can see Fleury on Saturday.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
Exactly. Landeskog aint going anywhere. It would ROR or McGinn
- joescullz


I still wouldn't want to see oreilly on this team. Too much money and probably couldn't be in the top 6
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 9 @ 10:46 AM ET
I still wouldn't want to see oreilly on this team. Too much money and probably couldn't be in the top 6
- drummer829


30 Goal/60 point guys don't fit in the Top 6?.....

OK.....
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ryan, any word on the goalie rotation? I hope they play Zatkoff tomorrow so I can see Fleury on Saturday.
- canadianpenfan


I havent heard anything but if I was a betting man I would say that you will be getting Zatkoff. I could be wrong.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
I still wouldn't want to see oreilly on this team. Too much money and probably couldn't be in the top 6
- drummer829


If we are going top 6 I want Cammalleri or Andrew Ladd.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
Landeskog isn't going anywhere.
- canadianpenfan

Agreed, I wouldn't consider Landeskog a likely trade target for anybody. No reason for them to move him.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
Landeskog is the Avs captain and a top 6 guy. He's playing with Sid of he was traded for. Bolland was just traded to his hometown and is a center which we don't need. Stoll is also a center. The only name that sounds ok is mcginn
- drummer829


Can Sutter play wing?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
As bad as the Penguins bottom 6 are, they have some time to fix it. There's not a chance in hell they slip out of 1st in the division. They should pick up a good bottom 6 player or two (Ott, for example) at the TDL instead of chasing the big fish, and go into the playoffs with at least 3 solid lines, and hope MAF's...well, not himself.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
I havent heard anything but if I was a betting man I would say that you will be getting Zatkoff. I could be wrong.
- Ryan_Wilson



Thinking the same thing. Probably a wise move considering Calgary has been shut out in 4 or 6 games or something ridiculous like that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
OK Gunner, here are my top bottom six forwards:

Dave Bolland, Curtis Glencross, Jamie McGinn, Daniel Paille, Christian Hansen, Jaret Stoll, and Gabriel Landeskog.

Probably Curtis Glancross and Gabriel Landeskog would be our 'most likely' as Curtis is with Calgary and Gabriel is with Colorado, both of which might be looking for defense.

- powerhouse


How about Toews? Think they could pick him up for some picks? Maybe grab Hall and Eberle for a few prospects.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:02 AM ET
Honestly I think this is overblown. Injuries have caused the lines to be a jarbled mess all year. Get Megna and Bennett back, waive (frank)ing useless Pyatt and all of a sudden the bottom 6 is better.

Then the 4th line can be the 4th line instead of the 3rd. If Shero wants to go out and get a banger i'm fine with it. But I don't think any major shake ups are necessary, especially ones that involve trading Despres.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
Honestly I think this is overblown. Injuries have caused the lines to be a jarbled mess all year. Get Megna and Bennett back, waive (frank)ing useless Pyatt and all of a sudden the bottom 6 is better.

Then the 4th line can be the 4th line instead of the 3rd. If Shero wants to go out and get a banger i'm fine with it. But I don't think any major shake ups are necessary, especially ones that involve trading Despres.

- canadianpenfan


I think Bennett and Megna make things much better for the regular season but come playoff time the Penguins need a rock solid top 9 and a functional 4th line.

Bennett will take Dupuis spot and Megna can play 3rd line RW. But there is still a hole on the 3rd line LW, Glass is not good enough.

The Dupuis injury is a killer. It forces Shero to make a move. If Dupuis were healthy it could be argued the Penguins could make things work with what they have within the organization. I don't believe they can do that now if they want to be serious Cup contenders.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jan 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
How about Toews? Think they could pick him up for some picks? Maybe grab Hall and Eberle for a few prospects.
- jmatchett383

It's actually closer to Toews than to Hall and Eberle! At least Hall and Ebs are slightly older, non captains on a bad team. But yeah, he's absolutely untouchable.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
30 Goal/60 point guys don't fit in the Top 6?.....

OK.....

- TheGame316


He's naturally a center. He doesn't work too well on the wing. He will also probably get 6 mil/year for who knows how long. Have you watched any avalanche games or just think he will be good on the pens because of his point totals.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:17 AM ET
I think Bennett and Megna make things much better for the regular season but come playoff time the Penguins need a rock solid top 9 and a functional 4th line.

Bennett will take Dupuis spot and Megna can play 3rd line RW. But there is still a hole on the 3rd line LW, Glass is not good enough.

The Dupuis injury is a killer. It forces Shero to make a move. If Dupuis were healthy it could be argued the Penguins could make things work with what they have within the organization. I don't believe they can do that now if they want to be serious Cup contenders.

- Ryan_Wilson



I don't mind Sill with better players than Pyatt and Glass and/or Vitale. I think Glass-Vitale-Adams is fine as a 4th line. I would at least like to see how Sill would look with Sutter and Megna.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
I don't mind Sill with better players than Pyatt and Glass and/or Vitale. I think Glass-Vitale-Adams is fine as a 4th line. I would at least like to see how Sill would look with Sutter and Megna.
- canadianpenfan


There is risk, his sample size is small. Hell, Bennett and Megna's sample size is small.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
All I know is I watched the Hawks game last night, and although they lost a game i never would have guessed they would have their 3rd line of Shaw, Bickell and Saad was like a wet dream.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jan 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
Best players being the best players. I was actually encouraged looking at Mirtle's article the other day about 4th lines, and comparing how much we are using our "4th line" to other teams.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jan 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
All I know is I watched the Hawks game last night, and although they lost a game i never would have guessed they would have their 3rd line of Shaw, Bickell and Saad was like a wet dream.
- canadianpenfan


That's a nice 3rd line. It also comes with the trade off of having Michael Handzus and Kris Versteeg on a "2nd line"
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