depending on the year yes he can make less than 5.5. Base Salary next year needs to be matched at 6.5m, and with the rules of the CBA, 1st and last year of contract cant differ more than 50% and year to year no more than 30%.

You can do a long term deal with him (38m 7 year deal for example and it would all comply depending on how you do the year to years)
- DDM-Coga

This is incorrect. Only one year contracts count as Qualifying Offers. Non-qualifying offers have no requirement of matching salary.

ROR must be offered a 6.5m one year contract or actually agree to a contract; or he is UFA July 1. Lowers his trade value quite a bit.

Just found it...you guys, DET and CHI are all at 10
- Juice

Thanks, very interesting

This is the same thinking that was used during negotiations with DiPietro.
- Cptmjl

Dipietro/snow are also the reasons for the 8 year max

This is incorrect. Only one year contracts count as Qualifying Offers. Non-qualifying offers have no requirement of matching salary.

ROR must be offered a 6.5m one year contract or actually agree to a contract; or he is UFA July 1. Lowers his trade value quite a bit.
- Antilles

Isn't he RFA?

Isn't he RFA?
- l3ig_l2ecl

Will be UFA if they dont make 6.5mil qualifying offer...

He's still only putting up points at a rate of .66/game. He's on pace for 55 points this year. 6 mil is way too much for that.
Good for him for getting a huge contract two years ago, he obviously screw the DG.
- l3ig_l2ecl

people who look at just point totals to determine a players worth are flawed. Unless you watch the guy play and see his whole 200ft game, to say he isnt worth is the wrong assesment.

6m now maybe too much, 6m on a long term contract 3 years from now, worth it and potentially a steal.

This is incorrect. Only one year contracts count as Qualifying Offers. Non-qualifying offers have no requirement of matching salary.

ROR must be offered a 6.5m one year contract or actually agree to a contract; or he is UFA July 1. Lowers his trade value quite a bit.
- Antilles

More to my poitn then, he doesnt ahve to make more than Duchene as Eklund poitned out.

This is incorrect. Only one year contracts count as Qualifying Offers. Non-qualifying offers have no requirement of matching salary.

ROR must be offered a 6.5m one year contract or actually agree to a contract; or he is UFA July 1. Lowers his trade value quite a bit.
- Antilles

Or... a third option exists.

The avs can take him to team-elected arbitration where he can be awarded at minimum 85% of his current salary figure. So, he could technically be brought down to about 5.6M.

Secondly, with any trade that involves ROR, Im sure any responsible team will find out from his agent what kind of salary he is looking for. Im sure the avs wont let his trade value suffer in that way. Teams will be able to speak with his agent, i would guess.

Isn't he RFA?
- l3ig_l2ecl

Only if he receives a qualifying offer, which has to be a one-year deal at his current salary.

just what every teams needs....A Leaf D-man
- Fruitcakenipple

Tim Murray already talking trades? Weird

Or... a third option exists.

The avs can take him to team-elected arbitration where he can be awarded at minimum 85% of his current salary figure. So, he could technically be brought down to about 5.6M.

Secondly, with any trade that involves ROR, Im sure any responsible team will find out from his agent what kind of salary he is looking for. Im sure the avs wont let his trade value suffer in that way. Teams will be able to speak with his agent, i would guess.
- eddieavs

Great point about arbitration, though I don't think there has ever been an award for less the the QO, it is allowed.

His trade value suffers because he holds the upper hand in negotiations almost like a pending UFA does, not because teams are unaware of his demands.

R'O'Rielly for Gardiner and Biggs?

Great point about arbitration, though I don't think there has ever been an award for less the the QO, it is allowed.

His trade value suffers because he holds the upper hand in negotiations almost like a pending UFA does, not because teams are unaware of his demands.
- Antilles

To the first point, perhaps not. But how many situations where a player has been brought down in arbitration are similar to ROR's situation.

His contract was an offer sheet with a massive discrepancy between years 1 and 2. Its almost a 100% increase in salary from one year to the next (from 3.5 to 6.5)
Has there ever been a player brought to arbitration following an offer sheet contract? I cant think of any.

No doubt he has the upper hand. But any team will know what his demands are up front. Similarly to Varlamov from Washington. RFA, with no contract. His trade value did not suffer at all, and the avs instantly signed him to a deal after the trade was made.

Sure, ROR may have ridiculous salary demands...and thats what could hurt his trade value. But if hes asking for anything in the 6M range long term, im sure lots of teams would be fine with paying him, and trading for his value.

At this point, ROR will have a hard time justifying 6.5M or more to any team. Even on Colorado, Landeskog and Duchene have set the pay scale. He'll have a hard time trying to prove he should be paid a cent more than either of them.

R'O'Rielly for Gardiner and Biggs?
- Holy_Makinaw99

If ROR is traded for any package where Gardiner is the most valuable piece...

The avs will have truly crapped the bed.

In no way, does a trade like that make the avs better in the short or the long run.

You've got to figure regardless of the goalie situation (I would definitely trade Enroth for Gagner, even without a definite Miller extension) that Ehrhoff is more than likely a hot commodity with Myers returning to form...

You've got to figure regardless of the goalie situation (I would definitely trade Enroth for Gagner, even without a definite Miller extension) that Ehrhoff is more than likely a hot commodity with Myers returning to form...
- FIREonICE

Yeah, I got a feeling we are going to resign Miller!
In that case, we should trade Enroth.
Send Ehrhoff anywhere, but please not to Boston!

Eklund: Rumor Update: On O'Reilly for Gardiner, Gagner for Enroth, Bruins
- Eklund

Leafs should be al over that if they can pull it off. Oilers are now considering moving Gagner? The guy has flat out sucked this year, I'm sure they'd welcome a trade for him to be shipped out for a d-man or a forward with size. Gagner for Enroth isn't the way to go IMO, they can try to make a push for one of the Anaheim goalies or even Halak when/if he hits UFA without giving up assets.

Yeah, I got a feeling we are going to resign Miller!
In that case, we should trade Enroth.
Send Ehrhoff anywhere, but please not to Boston!
- Sabresfan88

Dont know what the Sabres would be looking for, but if Ehrhoff is truly on the market, the avs should be all over it.

He's the ideal piece for the avs right now.

How the hell is Enroth going to help Edmonton in net? That's rediculous. The asking price for Gagner is a lot more than just Enroth.

How the hell is Enroth going to help Edmonton in net? That's rediculous. The asking price for Gagner is a lot more than just Enroth.
- mbxiphos1527

Well you twisted our arm but we have a deal. Leino and Enroth for Gagner

Bourque for Gagner.
Alberta Boy for French sounding guy. LOL.

Gagner for Gardiner

The O'Reilly stuff all took place before Sakic and Roy arrived. He would be crazy to leave Colorado and Roy. He will never find a coach who appreciates and exploits his talents like Roy. Roy loves players like O'Reilly. It is easy to do a long term contract that gives O'Reilly star money but preserves Duschene's top dog status at $6m.

The talk about Buffalo resigning Miller makes a lot of sense if they hire Tim Murray. If Buffalo follows the Ottawa route they will deal some players but they will keep veteran character guys to bring the younger guys along. Buffalo has some great prospects and they have some pretty good role guys. They could be a good team as early as next year.

The O'Reilly stuff all took place before Sakic and Roy arrived. He would be crazy to leave Colorado and Roy. He will never find a coach who appreciates and exploits his talents like Roy. Roy loves players like O'Reilly. It is easy to do a long term contract that gives O'Reilly star money but preserves Duschene's top dog status at $6m.

The talk about Buffalo resigning Miller makes a lot of sense if they hire Tim Murray. If Buffalo follows the Ottawa route they will deal some players but they will keep veteran character guys to bring the younger guys along. Buffalo has some great prospects and they have some pretty good role guys. They could be a good team as early as next year.
- spatso

Duchene signed a hometown discount contract based on what he can do. He recently had an interview talking about it, saying he doesnt believe he is a star yet, had a lot to work for and prove, all that mattered to him was the amount of years, not the dollar amount.

6m in a few seasons is going to seem like such a bargain for him