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ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:31 PM ET
Their UFA options are Handzus or Bollig, I'd rather keep Niskanen and lose him for nothing.

They also look pretty set on D considering Nick Leddy is in their bottom pairing.

- Ryan_Wilson


but do they have more depth? Minn, LA, STL also could be options. And it wouldn't have to be neccesarily a UFA. Trading a guy playing like a top 4 d-man to a team with depth in the bottom six could bring a third liner. (one who isn't and UFA)

chicago--- bickell, bollig, shaw, pirri, mcneil, krugar, morin. just an example though
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:32 PM ET
It gives a team a chance to resign him prior to the interview period (or during), but the value doesn't seem great.

Does a non-playoff team take a shot at a guy like that to get him for 20 games and a chance to sell him on their organization?

- rival22

with how the market is shaping up, especially with phaneuf signing already, if nisky wants the cash then i wouldnt sign a thing if i was him. he could be looking at a matt carle like deal
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:34 PM ET
It gives a team a chance to resign him prior to the interview period (or during), but the value doesn't seem great.

Does a non-playoff team take a shot at a guy like that to get him for 20 games and a chance to sell him on their organization?

- rival22


I think it depends on that particular team. How confident their management is in such a move. I'm sure there are certain places that he'd be happy to play. The blue line is filling up and he's going to be paid no matter where he goes. I'd be willing to bet a couple teams would be willing to take a shot on him.

Colorado and Minnesota could be interested. Both have some vacancies coming on the blue line next season.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:45 PM ET
I think it depends on that particular team. How confident their management is in such a move. I'm sure there are certain places that he'd be happy to play. The blue line is filling up and he's going to be paid no matter where he goes. I'd be willing to bet a couple teams would be willing to take a shot on him.

Colorado and Minnesota could be interested. Both have some vacancies coming on the blue line next season.

- HopintheCordoba


Both those teams would be good for him. Minn is the obvious one, but he'd do well with Colorado's up tempo game as well.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:48 PM ET
Both those teams would be good for him. Minn is the obvious one, but he'd do well with Colorado's up tempo game as well.
- rival22


col also has decent forward depth. nisk for mcginn or something similar? I It is debatable about trading him and getting something small back (definately not worth as much as he is) or losing him for nothing
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:50 PM ET
col also has decent forward depth. nisk for mcginn or something similar? I It is debatable about trading him and getting something small back (definately not worth as much as he is) or losing him for nothing
- ChrisMS


If that's a healthy McGinn it's worth it. A pick could be worth it as well if we're just letting him walk too.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 8:06 PM ET

That was a fantastic moment. Honestly though...which ending would you have preferred? Winning in regulation or that unbelievable golden goal and celebration?

- HopintheCordoba


As a hockey fan, the excitement of that OT was ridiculous. It is why we watch/play the game.

As a Canadian a 14-0 lead after first period would have been preferred.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 2 @ 8:14 PM ET
Unlike last year, I actually do think that Setoguchi could be an option this year, being that he's a UFA this summer. Not the perfect solution, but would be a decent rental, and I'm not sure how the Penguins can pull off a trade for Wheeler or Kane either salary-wise or prospect wise. They've already got defensemen.

T.J. Galiardi might be more realistic. He's also a UFA after this year. He'd be somewhat like the pre-offensive explosion Dupuis, as he can slot into the top 6 temporarily but would be on the 3rd line assuming Jokinen is with Malkin and Neal and Kunitz and Bennett are with Crosby.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 2 @ 8:21 PM ET
Unlike last year, I actually do think that Setoguchi could be an option this year, being that he's a UFA this summer. Not the perfect solution, but would be a decent rental, and I'm not sure how the Penguins can pull off a trade for Wheeler or Kane either salary-wise or prospect wise. They've already got defensemen.

T.J. Galiardi might be more realistic. He's also a UFA after this year. He'd be somewhat like the pre-offensive explosion Dupuis, as he can slot into the top 6 temporarily but would be on the 3rd line assuming Jokinen is with Malkin and Neal and Kunitz and Bennett are with Crosby.

- hardnosed



We are a terrible match regarding a deal with Winnipeg for one of the big three forwards. We really don't have the prospects. I don't want to give up anything for Seto ... maybe a third rounder. He is nothing but a bust since his first or second year in the league.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 2 @ 8:53 PM ET
i just love how people criticize the decisions of a GM who has constantly made teams work with limited reasons, GMs with 4 Stanley cups between the 3 of them, and Brian Burke.

If these guys say that this team is the best fit to win, I'll take their word.

If I were them, I would have taken a guy like Okposo and Yandle.

Just my opinion.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 8:57 PM ET
If that's a healthy McGinn it's worth it. A pick could be worth it as well if we're just letting him walk too.
- HopintheCordoba


I dunno... keeping nisk for a cup run trumps anything but a 1st IMO
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 2 @ 9:25 PM ET
i just love how people criticize the decisions of a GM who has constantly made teams work with limited reasons, GMs with 4 Stanley cups between the 3 of them, and Brian Burke.

If these guys say that this team is the best fit to win, I'll take their word.

If I were them, I would have taken a guy like Okposo and Yandle.

Just my opinion.

- SuperHenderson13


You aren't going to make everyone happy. Over the last decade, the US talent level has drastically increased and now you have many options. I'm sure alot of female doging will happen with Canada's roster as well.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 2 @ 9:26 PM ET
I dunno... keeping nisk for a cup run trumps anything but a 1st IMO
- ChrisMS


I like McGinn as a player alot. If you can get him for Nisky straight up, I'd do it - especially if every Dman is healthy.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 2 @ 9:27 PM ET
You aren't going to make everyone happy. Over the last decade, the US talent level has drastically increased and now you have many options. I'm sure alot of female doging will happen with Canada's roster as well.
- Oneonta Penguin

Canada is going to be a nightmare.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 9:39 PM ET
I like McGinn as a player alot. If you can get him for Nisky straight up, I'd do it - especially if every Dman is healthy.
- Oneonta Penguin


We agree on something! A new years miracle!
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jan 2 @ 9:57 PM ET
I like McGinn as a player alot. If you can get him for Nisky straight up, I'd do it - especially if every Dman is healthy.
- Oneonta Penguin

McGinn is more realistic than guys like Kane, Laad or Eberle. Even Wheeler would be costly.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:33 PM ET
McGinn is more realistic than guys like Kane, Laad or Eberle. Even Wheeler would be costly.
- joescullz


Once Tanguay and Parenteau are healthy again I can see them moving McGinn, until then, it will be a 4-6 weeks till they do.

I think we would want to package him with a dman like Benoit, Sarich, to make room for a guy like Niskanen,
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 10:43 PM ET
Once Tanguay and Parenteau are healthy again I can see them moving McGinn, until then, it will be a 4-6 weeks till they do.

I think we would want to package him with a dman like Benoit, Sarich, to make room for a guy like Niskanen,

- DDM-Coga


Penguins aren't really in a position to take on salaries of players they don't want/need.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jan 2 @ 10:46 PM ET
Once Tanguay and Parenteau are healthy again I can see them moving McGinn, until then, it will be a 4-6 weeks till they do.

I think we would want to package him with a dman like Benoit, Sarich, to make room for a guy like Niskanen,

- DDM-Coga


Really? Don't they have like $10 million or so in space?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:52 PM ET
Really? Don't they have like $10 million or so in space?
- HopintheCordoba


lots of cap room, already carrying 8 dman right now, adding another 1 would have to cause some shuffling. So moving a guy like Benoit on a 1 year 900k deal or Guenin a 1 year 600k deal would be preferred with McGinn.

I dont want them to demote Barrie but if was a straight up deal, thats the move the Avs would make

Im sure we would take a guy like Glass or even your new waiver wire pick Pyatt to help
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 10:53 PM ET
lots of cap room, already carrying 8 dman right now, adding another 1 would have to cause some shuffling. So moving a guy like Benoit on a 1 year 900k deal or Guenin a 1 year 600k deal would be preferred with McGinn.

I dont want them to demote Barrie but if was a straight up deal, thats the move the Avs would make

Im sure we would take a guy like Glass or even your new waiver wire pick Pyatt to help

- DDM-Coga


Why not just send them down to the AHL?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 10:54 PM ET
Really? Don't they have like $10 million or so in space?
- HopintheCordoba


I think he's talking roster space... But those guys can be shipped out easily for a pick from someone else.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:56 PM ET
Why not just send them down to the AHL?
- Ryan_Wilson


We already did that with Hunwick who is actually playing well with the Monsters. Can see him being called up to be traded at the deadline to a contender as a 7th dman.

Roy and Sakic dont seem like those kind of guys who will send down 1 year deals after letting telling them to find year long residence in Denver. Barrie is the only 2 way still so would be the odd man out.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
I think he's talking roster space... But those guys can be shipped out easily for a pick from someone else.
- rival22


yup, adding another D would give us 9 up with the big club. Benoit is cheap and isnt useless so he could be good for you guys as a 7th dman.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 11:03 PM ET
yup, adding another D would give us 9 up with the big club. Benoit is cheap and isnt useless so he could be good for you guys as a 7th dman.
- DDM-Coga


pens dont need a 7th, 8th, 9th d-man. hence the idea of moving one out for a forward.
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