But confusing for the defensive coach. Can you imagine? OK Weber, get in there for Weber!
- powerhouse

Go get weber and bring him to my office

In regards to players to be sold, first of all, you look at contracts. Niskanen is a UFA. No matter how you slice and dice it, he's gone at the end of this season. Meaning, he is a tradable commodity as we have a ton of prospects and NHL ready talent to fill his spot. Trade him for forward needs.
Secondly, Martin has a year left on his contract and is fair game to be traded on Draft Day, for a boat load of players, i.e. Jordan Staal. Again, fill in for the spot is not an issue.
What do you think?

In regards to players to be sold, first of all, you look at contracts. Niskanen is a UFA. No matter how you slice and dice it, he's gone at the end of this season. Meaning, he is a tradable commodity as we have a ton of prospects and NHL ready talent to fill his spot. Trade him for forward needs.
Secondly, Martin has a year left on his contract and is fair game to be traded on Draft Day, for a boat load of players, i.e. Jordan Staal. Again, fill in for the spot is not an issue.
What do you think?
- allaboutpens

Again, Niskanen being a UFA doesn't help his value unless the Penguins were in selling mode.

The team that would be looking to rent Niskanen would be a team not looking to part with pieces that help now.

In regards to players to be sold, first of all, you look at contracts. Niskanen is a UFA. No matter how you slice and dice it, he's gone at the end of this season. Meaning, he is a tradable commodity as we have a ton of prospects and NHL ready talent to fill his spot. Trade him for forward needs.
Secondly, Martin has a year left on his contract and is fair game to be traded on Draft Day, for a boat load of players, i.e. Jordan Staal. Again, fill in for the spot is not an issue.
What do you think?
- allaboutpens

Also, I firmly believe that Shero will extend Martin this summer.

Also, I firmly believe that Shero will extend Martin this summer.
- s0rcerer1984

He should.

Last year, it was a lot of "Despres is a future Norris winner, he's already a top-20 defenseman," in here. Now we're discussing what 2nd line wingers he should be traded for?

That kid, if given a fair shot, is going to be really good. Maybe not Shea Weber good, but at the very least, John Carlson good. Just because you have a lot of good young defenseman, it doesn't mean you can deal (to me) the best of the bunch.
- jmatchett383

He's better than that now he just needs to actually log minutes.

He should.
- Ryan_Wilson

He better. The team did say he was the best defenseman despite Letang being a Norris candidate. I don't think any of us had any doubt Martin was better overall. Best PP QB too.

wow.. was that an article by burnside or an f'n book. One thing I got out of it was that when you consider all the pens staff that have had to juggle the pens and the olymipcs this year, it makes their accomplishments all that much more impressive with the pens

Again, Niskanen being a UFA doesn't help his value unless the Penguins were in selling mode.

The team that would be looking to rent Niskanen would be a team not looking to part with pieces that help now.
- Ryan_Wilson

unless they need a d-man and they have extra forwards... trading nisk isn't entirely out of the question. chicago is bursting with bottom 6 talent but their d would look better with nisk. just an example.

Only thing I dislike about the Olympics is that it makes me hate our non American players for 2 weeks.

unless they need a d-man and they have extra forwards... trading nisk isn't entirely out of the question. chicago is bursting with bottom 6 talent but their d would look better with nisk. just an example.
- ChrisMS

I'd steer clear of trading nisk to Chicago. Just in case

I'd steer clear of trading nisk to Chicago. Just in case
- dbell646

nisk would have to be traded to a playoff hopeful at the minimum. it could bite the pens in the ass regardless

Only thing I dislike about the Olympics is that it makes me hate our non American players for 2 weeks.
- dbell646

That is just because Crosby breaks your black hearts.

That is just because Crosby breaks your black hearts.
- Ben37

I was happy when he beat Miller.(feels a little dirty but not really)

That is just because Crosby breaks your black hearts.
- Ben37

My heart wasn't broken. I was legitimately happy for the guy. It was an epic game and they earned the gold. Period.

My heart wasn't broken. I was legitimately happy for the guy. It was an epic game and they earned the gold. Period.
- HopintheCordoba

I swore at Parise when he tied it. I was so goddamn mad.

That is just because Crosby breaks your black hearts.
- Ben37

Sure did. I wasn't happy for him at all. I hated the entire country for a good 2 weeks

unless they need a d-man and they have extra forwards... trading nisk isn't entirely out of the question. chicago is bursting with bottom 6 talent but their d would look better with nisk. just an example.
- ChrisMS

Their UFA options are Handzus or Bollig, I'd rather keep Niskanen and lose him for nothing.

They also look pretty set on D considering Nick Leddy is in their bottom pairing.

Their UFA options are Handzus or Bollig, I'd rather keep Niskanen and lose him for nothing.

They also look pretty set on D considering Nick Leddy is in their bottom pairing.
- Ryan_Wilson

yeah i really dont see any scenario in which we can move niskanen for a winning return.

In the past, the Pens could trade Niskanen's rights for a decent pick, but I wonder with the free agent interview window, if trading for rights is pretty much eliminated?

yeah i really dont see any scenario in which we can move niskanen for a winning return.
- stayinthefnnet

At some point services rendered becomes more valuable than a return in a trade. I believe we have hit that point with Niskanen.

In the past, the Pens could trade Niskanen's rights for a decent pick, but I wonder with the free agent interview window, if trading for rights is pretty much eliminated?
- rival22

I suppose you could trade his rights before that window opens, right?

Edit: That isn't going to do anything for the team acquiring him. Scratch that.

At some point services rendered becomes more valuable than a return in a trade. I believe we have hit that point with Niskanen.
- Ryan_Wilson

thats exactly it to me as well. like what may he realistically bring at this point? a fourth? with the way he has been playing, id just rather have him for a stretch run.

im enjoying all of this trade speculation though. at least its entertaining. while winnipeg likely wont happen, its at least feasible

I suppose you could trade his rights before that window opens, right?

Edit: That isn't going to do anything for the team acquiring him. Scratch that.
- Ryan_Wilson

It gives a team a chance to resign him prior to the interview period (or during), but the value doesn't seem great.

Does a non-playoff team take a shot at a guy like that to get him for 20 games and a chance to sell him on their organization?

I swore at Parise when he tied it. I was so goddamn mad.
- Ben37

That was a fantastic moment. Honestly though...which ending would you have preferred? Winning in regulation or that unbelievable golden goal and celebration?